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What if Roy Jones fresh off his title winning performance over John Ruiz, took on Mike Tyson in a mega fight?
I personally think that Tyson would have beaten Jones, Ruiz, or Rahman during 00-03.
Jones would have been very intimidated IMO as he was simply not a true heavyweight n Tyson was the most ferocious heavy ever. He'd eventually go to the ropes n that would spell big trouble for Roy.
Roy wanted the fight.
Tyson's era imo was 85-90 not sure who Tyson beat past that era worthy of noting.
Roy mentioned fighting Tyson, Holyfield, Douglas.
Heres how much he wanted any of them in reality.
He fought Ruiz...
;D
Jones was a phenom and a real beast but I think that fighting someone like Tyson would have been a bit too much for him though; Jones had an ok chin but nothing more and I don't think that he had the power to really hurt Tyson. Tyson had crushing devastating power and an iron chin. As much as I love Jones and think that he deserves a place in the top 10 P4P for what he did in his prime, that bullet seems a bit hard to bite to me.
Roy Jones was good but in my opinion not even the best Roy Jones could have survived the worst version of Tyson.
Even in his very last outing with McBride, Tyson was nothing less than a very dangerous opponent.
I just can't imagine Roy not being overwhelmed by the strength, ferocity, speed for such a big man and the enormous power.
Tyson could not figjht past 4 rounds and could not handle big ft heavyweights leaning on him but Roy was too light to cause him much problems.
If Roy could go past 4 rounds he stood a chance but I do not see him lasting that long.
James Toney that beat Holyfield would have beaten both.
Roy would have beat him.
Tyson sucks man. He is weak quitter.
Roy was pretty much at the peak of his career at that point while tyson was a circus act.
Roy beats him.
Rubbish!Quote:
Originally Posted by EL DINAMITA
The fact of the matter is Roy never fought him. Roy talked about fighting him but if he really thought he could have beaten him he would have fought him.
Again... He didn't!
Tyson was the type of person who would fight whoever if the money was there.
Tyson was still way to strong for Roy I'd say, he would have been able to walk through his punches and corner him, physical mismatch. Not as if Roy was some giant version of his former self at HW, he was pretty clearly slower and had no power, I agree there is a reason he only fought Ruiz.
I thought Roy called out Tyson after Ruiz. He stopped calling Holyfield because writers said Holy was a shell
Whereas Mike Tyson was hot property at this time after zlewis had beaten him;DQuote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Roy is probably my favourite fighter of the modern era or in the top 3 but Roy gets killed no matter how one plays with the dates.
Since Roy escaped with his life against Lebedev, I think there is a decent chance Tyson would have only knocked him out much faster and not quite killed him either. The risk of death was probably a factor in why Roy didn't pursue the fight for sure though.
Tyson was way too old and slow and stiff by '03 and RJJ woulda won a UD
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Originally Posted by p4pking
I remember when Roy said he'd fight Lennox for 100 million. He used to crack me up at times.
I was not aware that he had said such a foolish thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I remember when Roy said he'd fight Lennox for 100 million. He used to crack me up at times.
Now we have Floyd saying the same thing about fighting Pacquaio lol
Guy fights to a decision with Ruiz = guy can beat Tyson.
Is this really what we are coming to? LOL
Sure Tyson the quitter and all that, that was Kevin bloody McBride who is pretty much exactly twice the size of Tyson let alone Roy. And Tyson was WINNING that fight.
Previous fight vs Williams which he lost by big punch from a big man, Tyson was winning every round!
Physical mismatch! Roy I great but he isn't REALLY superman!
I wondered what made Roy call out Tyson.
Personally i liked his courage.
Lennox responded to Roy, but Roy backed down.
Tyson didnt say anything.
Woulda coulda, we can only speculate, but at least Roy called him out. HAD he gotten knocked out, he woulda gotten my respect for taking on a challenge so daunting.
Roy did ask for the crazy moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkI was not aware that he had said such a foolish thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I remember when Roy said he'd fight Lennox for 100 million. He used to crack me up at times.
Now we have Floyd saying the same thing about fighting Pacquaio lol
Ah, outpriced himself...Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterRoy did ask for the crazy moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkI was not aware that he had said such a foolish thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I remember when Roy said he'd fight Lennox for 100 million. He used to crack me up at times.
Now we have Floyd saying the same thing about fighting Pacquaio lol
Is Roy's win over Hopkins one of the best individual wins ever? Look at what Hopkins went on to do.
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Originally Posted by HulkI was not aware that he had said such a foolish thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I remember when Roy said he'd fight Lennox for 100 million. He used to crack me up at times.
Now we have Floyd saying the same thing about fighting Pacquaio lol
Well one just never knows when the guys head was as big as Pensacola. Did he really think the fight was worth 100 million or was that his way of acknowledging how ridiculous it was?
Roy's win over Toney was even better. James was a quality fighter back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
I think Tyson was completely done at that point, and would have lost to Jones, Ruiz, Rahman, Tua, Byrd, ect.
Medical bills are expensive when you go against someone that big. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeAh, outpriced himself...Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterRoy did ask for the crazy moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkI was not aware that he had said such a foolish thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I remember when Roy said he'd fight Lennox for 100 million. He used to crack me up at times.
Now we have Floyd saying the same thing about fighting Pacquaio lol
Jones didn't have the legs or movement to avoid getting hit. He relied on his reflexes laying on the ropes and he would have laid on the ropes against someone as strong and aggressive as Tyson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Jones made a big deal of Ruiz holding before the fit and Ruiz was stupid enough to stand off and try and box. Mike is quicker and a better puncher than Ruiz even at this point and would have got in and traded with Roy and Roy knows he would have had to use his legs a lot which is why he never fought Tyson.
Tyson was finished as a top fighter. He'd had his last chance against lewis but Roy still thought he was too dangerous and he was right. Did Roy have the strength that Williams had that night?
Danny used to be able to come back from being wobbled but getting smashed about by Mike Tyson and Vitali definitely took its toll.
Roy would not risk having to take one of those shots. He knew Tyson had an excellent chin that could take one of the biggest punchers in history's shots so he wasn't going to stop him. He also knew his defence was putting his gloves around his ears and letting his opponent punch. He knew better. This is why the fight didn't happen.
Jones didn't have the legs or movement?? Are we talking about the same Jones? Roy Jones Jr?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
RJJ that fought Ruiz, seemed like a 'seasoned' prime fighter. His physique showed power, and he did brake Ruiz nose.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerJones didn't have the legs or movement?? Are we talking about the same Jones? Roy Jones Jr?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
True that Ruiz is no Tyson, but it wasnt until Roy went back down to fight Tarver that I even saw Roy as past his best, slowed and unable to move like he use to.
Roy used to just stand in front of opponents with his gloves up, he did it with Woods, he did it with Ruiz waiting for the ref to split them. He never used his legs to avoid punches.
Are we talking about the same Roy Jones Jr?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Roy was a thing of beauty until Tarver. But I believe Jones would have beaten Tyson who was pretty much a hooking machine and looking for the 1 shot ko and lost his desire to fight. Jones by DQ win.
He gassed mid way and gave up against guys tying him up and leaning on him that weighed 250+ lbsQuote:
Originally Posted by jon09
Roy Jones weighed in just UNDER 200 for Ruiz.
EVERY version of Tyson was extremely strong and extremely dangerous and extremely powerful and had solid chin.
There is no master plan, no matter what or how hard he tried, that Roy could have survived Tyson despite him being among the best boxers of all time.
He just could never match the overwhelming might of Mike.
And Mike was never slow enough to be hit and run by any opponent ever!
Sorry but this is a joke match up.
The whole idea of Roy fighting Lennox Lewis was nothing less than an outrageous joke as well.
The only thing more ridiculous was Lewis's comments in an interview "This is my weight class, if he wants to fight in the HW division, tell him to come and see me, Lennox Lewis, I'll take the "S" off his chest".
That was REAL tough of Lennox.
6'5", 250lbs, 41-2-1, 38-2-1 at the time he made that statement (-2 cruisers he knocked out and -Vitali whom he hadn't fought)
against Roy Jones. Who had a single bout at HW against possibly the weakest champ since Leon Spinks. and who subsequently was wasted by light HW Tarver, who stood 6' shorter and weighed 50lbs less.
Unbelievable!
A motivated Tyson knocks him out. The coked up Tyson loses by disqualification because Roy would pot shot him and hold him behind the neck when he got close until Tyson snapped.
Yeah..Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09
Snapped his neck!
LOL