Magomed Abdusalamov....a true warrior, neglected & forgotten.

Magomed Abdusalamov. remember that name?
He is the Russian guy who almost died to put on a good show for us boxing fans. and put on a show he did. he showed great heart, courage, a great chin, and a pretty damn good punch too. Unfortunately he suffered horrible brain injury in that unreal fight against Perez in nov 2013. pretty much left a vegetable because the dumbass promoter/or ringside doctor would not stop the fight. They wanted their dramatic ending.
well, they got it. and now a good man/credit to the sport will probably die.
I love a good brutal fight as much as the next man, but in that fight, i found myself yelling aloud "stop the fight" to no one. it was beyond brutal. no one should have taken that beating, and NO DOCTOR or PROMOTER should have let it go near that long!

In my opinion, they should be held responsible for what happened. Yes, boxing is a dangerous sport and you should expect injuries, but for someones head to get beaten thaaaat bad, for thaaaat long IS WRONG!! They should have to pay all doctor bills and help Magomeds family. bastards!

UPDATE??
I caught the last bit of something on friday night fights that said Magomed almost died again. does anyone have any info on this? can't seem to find any news on the fallen warrior. They showed a picture of Magomed and it was frikkin' terrible & very heartbreaking.

Sending prayers to Magomed & family....

I've been keeping up-to-date on his condition.

"Neglected and forgotten" is harsh as it's not something I'd want getting a lot of media attention if it was me.

I do send my best wishes though, he took the best power punches of Mike Perez and stood tall. I'm sure he'd take it back but the heart involved in that fight was massive.

It's a sad case, and a strange one. I don't fault the ref, because Magomed was taking a lot of punches but rarely seemed hurt and was always coming forward and attacking and making it competitive. If the ref had stopped it, people would have said it was a bad stoppage.

People tend to forget about guys like Magomed, and retired boxers who are punch drunk, because it reminds them of the harsh realities of the sport. We all want to put on our rose coloured glasses and praise warriors who go punch for punch, hit and get hit, but we don't want to acknowledge the physical toll it takes on a fighter.

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pretty much left a vegetable because the dumbass promoter/or ringside doctor would not stop the fight. They wanted their dramatic ending.

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Boxers know the dangers waiting for them inside that ring, they are not forced to fight, they choose on their own. Magomed fought in a style people who SAY they are boxing fans like, but people who ARE boxing fans know is a style that gets you where Magomed is at the moment. If anyone is at fault for not stopping the fight it's Magomed's trainer, BUT at the same time, boxers don't pay their trainers to pull the plug on a fight they feel they are in/could win. The promoters are supposed to stop it? How? Why? The doctor was supposed to stop it? Mago wasn't bleeding or cut or showing a ton of signs of distress.

What has happened to Magomed is a shame, but it's happened before and it'll happen again that is just a sad reality of the sport of boxing. Getting punched in the head is dangerous....so don't take too many shots.

With all of these complications, I am coming of the opinion that something was wrong with him before he even got into the ring. He had some sort of physical and neurological defect prior to entering into the ring.

Sad case, and I don't want to sound macabre: But with the injuries they are saying he sustained, two things happen: They either die very shortly afterwards (no more than2-3 months); or, they stabilize and have challenges through their life.

They just don't relapse with the same injury... they just don't...

YK, many said Gerald McClellan was injured from hard sparring before the Benn bout. And again, this is something you can't see, if you're affected you might not even feel it (brain bleed, concussion, etc) it's something that can only be prevented by teaching fighters good technical boxing.


HIT AND DON'T GET HIT


Nobody ever died from not getting hit

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pretty much left a vegetable because the dumbass promoter/or ringside doctor would not stop the fight. They wanted their dramatic ending.

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Boxers know the dangers waiting for them inside that ring, they are not forced to fight, they choose on their own. Magomed fought in a style people who SAY they are boxing fans like, but people who ARE boxing fans know is a style that gets you where Magomed is at the moment. If anyone is at fault for not stopping the fight it's Magomed's trainer, BUT at the same time, boxers don't pay their trainers to pull the plug on a fight they feel they are in/could win. The promoters are supposed to stop it? How? Why? The doctor was supposed to stop it? Mago wasn't bleeding or cut or showing a ton of signs of distress.

What has happened to Magomed is a shame, but it's happened before and it'll happen again that is just a sad reality of the sport of boxing. Getting punched in the head is dangerous....so don't take too many shots.

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Sir, I could not disagree you more! Boxers do know the hazards in the ring, but they also have the expectation that the ref, their corner, and the doctor will protect them from the other fighter and themselves.
You don't seem to care, but I would rather a fight was stopped too soon instead of too late.
It's my belief that everyone setting at ringside failed this fighter, if I'd been there I'd have been yelling at the ref to stop the fight.
Shit man, I even blame the other fighter, do you remember when Ali had Quarry in a bad way on the ropes and was waving the ref in to stop the fight?
When you see a fighter in a bad way, taking loud thumping shots to the head and not throwing much back what are you thinking about? Maybe we should be thinking about how we can stop this from
happening again.
Boxing is a job and boxers should expect cuts, broken bones, bruises, rope burns, and problems from head trauma. Boxers should also expect to be protected from unnecessary head blows by the ref, their corner, and the doctor! Lol You know what I mean.
Sir, you are a hard hearted dude!

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

Sir, I could not disagree you more! Boxers do know the hazards in the ring, but they also have the expectation that the ref, their corner, and the doctor will protect them from the other fighter and themselves.
You don't seem to care, but I would rather a fight was stopped too soon instead of too late.
It's my belief that everyone setting at ringside failed this fighter, if I'd been there I'd have been yelling at the ref to stop the fight.
Shit man, I even blame the other fighter, do you remember when Ali had Quarry in a bad way on the ropes and was waving the ref in to stop the fight?
When you see a fighter in a bad way, taking loud thumping shots to the head and not throwing much back what are you thinking about? Maybe we should be thinking about how we can stop this from
happening again.
Boxing is a job and boxers should expect cuts, broken bones, bruises, rope burns, and problems from head trauma. Boxers should also expect to be protected from unnecessary head blows by the ref, their corner, and the doctor! Lol You know what I mean.
Sir, you are a hard hearted dude!

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I'm not hard hearted I'm pragmatic


Magomed could have taken a knee or chose not to continue at any time during the fight ANY TIME! Nobody forced him to keep going, sorry nobody held a gun to his head and said "Answer the bell".

If he feared losing face he could have gotten his trainer to toss in the towel ANY TIME!

If he LOOKED in distress the ref and/or the doctor would have stepped in and stopped the fight as is the case with all fights.


Boxing is dangerous, it's always been dangerous and will always BE dangerous and fighters of all ages can and should know that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJxANHztmEg

Tell me where to stop the fight...if I'm a ref, trainer, doctor, promoter :rolleyes:, Mike Perez, or anyone else where do I stop? Round 1 when Perez lands a punch that certainly breaks Mago's nose/orbital bone? Round 9 when Mago lands a huge left cross on Perez? The scores were: 92-97, 94-95, 92-97.....it wasn't a rout, it wasn't a total asswhupping, it was a very tough, very close fight and Mago got seriously injured


Tell me right now, what time, what round you stop the fight...hindsight is supposed to be 20/20 so you had best have an EXACT time where and when this fight should have been called.

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

Boxers do know the hazards in the ring, but they also have the expectation that the ref, their corner, and the doctor will protect them from the other fighter and themselves.

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Yeah but at the end of the day, this is a sport where the object is to give your opponent a brain injury, so there's only so much refs/corners/doctors can do.

I agree that he was failed by the promoters because they never had an ambulance waiting to take him, but you can't fault the doctors or corners for not stopping it. Magomed was never out of the fight, he was constantly coming forward and throwing punches until the final bell. It really didn't fit the criteria of a fight that should be stopped.

In my opinion Mago's corner should take a lot of the blame. I could see he was in distress so they must have known. But really The Promoters, the arena, the commission. & especially the doctor that supposedly examined Mago & let him leave bear a lot of responsability The fact they had to hire a cab to take him to the emergeancy room is reprehensible. Where was the ringside medical staff?? Also where are the supposed good guys Klitschko brothers have they offered any assistance to Mago????
The way Mago was treated by those supposed to look after his welfare was lacking to say the least
God Bless Mago & family Praying for a miracle

I feel for this man and his family. I think all of the above played a hand in failing him. Ref, corner, Doctor and so on and so forth. If I'm a cynic even Lampley who was literally drooling about "THIS is what FANS want from heavyweights". Mago the look of a fighter accumulating damage, not just losing rounds or showing a 'great chin'. There is that point when you literally see it lasting. I don't think it matters greatly how stellar of a defense a fighters does or does not have when it comes to the impact of damage in a business of punching people in the head.

I'm not going to argue about this fight, I talked about it right after the fight and didn't change any minds.
I've had my say and thanks for reading it. I've read your comments and understand them.

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

I'm not going to argue about this fight, I talked about it right after the fight and didn't change any minds.
I've had my say and thanks for reading it. I've read your comments and understand them.

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You talked about it before it was known he suffered a serious brain injury?

He has not been neglected or forgotten.


I pray for him and his family every night, as do many boxing fans I'm sure.

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

I'm not going to argue about this fight, I talked about it right after the fight and didn't change any minds.
I've had my say and thanks for reading it. I've read your comments and understand them.

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You talked about it before it was known he suffered a serious brain injury?

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I think so, but I'm not positive, I was going on about him taking too many punches and his puffy face. I think I threw in my standard line about everyone being a tough guy as long they're not getting pounded on.
Should be easy enough to check out if you're interested.

With him taking so many heavy shots, I can't believe he wasn't looked at closer than 'he's throwing back and doesn't look too distressed'...

Boxers can hide pain and fatigue, you can't fake things like pupillary response though... What's the point in having a ringside doctor if he can't spot these things?

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Originally Posted by #1FightFan

Magomed Abdusalamov. remember that name?
He is the Russian guy who almost died to put on a good show for us boxing fans. and put on a show he did. he showed great heart, courage, a great chin, and a pretty damn good punch too. Unfortunately he suffered horrible brain injury in that unreal fight against Perez in nov 2013. pretty much left a vegetable because the dumbass promoter/or ringside doctor would not stop the fight. They wanted their dramatic ending.
well, they got it. and now a good man/credit to the sport will probably die.
I love a good brutal fight as much as the next man, but in that fight, i found myself yelling aloud "stop the fight" to no one. it was beyond brutal. no one should have taken that beating, and NO DOCTOR or PROMOTER should have let it go near that long!

In my opinion, they should be held responsible for what happened. Yes, boxing is a dangerous sport and you should expect injuries, but for someones head to get beaten thaaaat bad, for thaaaat long IS WRONG!! They should have to pay all doctor bills and help Magomeds family. bastards!

UPDATE??
I caught the last bit of something on friday night fights that said Magomed almost died again. does anyone have any info on this? can't seem to find any news on the fallen warrior. They showed a picture of Magomed and it was frikkin' terrible & very heartbreaking.

Sending prayers to Magomed & family....

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It's a sad situation for Magomed that's for sure, and a disgusting lack of responsibility on behalf of the ref, doctors and trainer involved.

I almost could not believe what I saw.

I think that a fighter should be given the benefit of the doubt at high level. But there is that line where health must become a priority, and the fighter is there to fight, because he is a fighter. It is the responsibility of the officials and corner to protect the fighters. And they all failed Magomed.

Prayers to Magomed and his family for sure!!

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

With him taking so many heavy shots, I can't believe he wasn't looked at closer than 'he's throwing back and doesn't look too distressed'...

Boxers can hide pain and fatigue, you can't fake things like pupillary response though... What's the point in having a ringside doctor if he can't spot these things?

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It's actually not easy to spot the pupillary response.

I have to check them on clients all the time routinely and quite often the shift is difficult to detect, particularly with older patients (as presumably, boxers who have just sustained punches, even if they are very fight-worthy and otherwise fit to continue.)

But this particular doctor in case should still be sacked and sued.. Definitely!

No One has yet mentioned the MSG "Staff" who told him to get a Taxi to the hospital when he complained of serious head pains after the fight and was pissing blood and vomiting???

Where was the Ambulance?

The court papers say Abdusalamov, who absorbed 312 punches, was advised by state officials to go to a hospital when he urinated blood after the fight, but an ambulance was not provided.
The severely injured boxer and his frightened family were forced to find a cab outside the entertainment venue during rush hour, the court papers say.

They call it the "Golden Hour" when a fighter gets serious brain injuries/blood clots and the chances of saving them from being a cripple are good if you can get them into hospital within that time.

I thought MSG was the Mecca of Boxing so why was there such a lack of staff and medical help available and why did he have to make his own way to hospital in a Taxi.

This was 2013 not the 1950's ffs.

A real fighters gonna fight regardless of facial injuries, fuck me what do some of you think these guys are in there for... a tickling contest?

It's a Brutal, Brutal combat sport where the aim is to knock your opponent unconscious so he is unable to carry on!

For me ALL the blame should go on the venue and their lack of facilities.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

With him taking so many heavy shots, I can't believe he wasn't looked at closer than 'he's throwing back and doesn't look too distressed'...

Boxers can hide pain and fatigue, you can't fake things like pupillary response though... What's the point in having a ringside doctor if he can't spot these things?

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It's actually not easy to spot the pupillary response.

I have to check them on clients all the time routinely and quite often the shift is difficult to detect, particularly with older patients (as presumably, boxers who have just sustained punches, even if they are very fight-worthy and otherwise fit to continue.)

But this particular doctor in case should still be sacked and sued.. Definitely!

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That's what the ringside doctor is there for though, it might not be easy but if they're not skilled enough to do it then they're inadequate for the job requirements and shouldn't be there.

It's not even that he tried and missed anything though - he didn't even look.

This promotion company K2 is owned or something to do with with Wladimir Klitschko i remembered this article from last year so dug it up, this report says there were infact 2 Ambulances at the venue but thet were still told to use a Taxi to get them to hospital??


Klitschko Sued by Brain-Damaged Magomed Abdusalamov Raises Questions of Negligence and Responsibility | BoxingInsider.com

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

I'm not going to argue about this fight, I talked about it right after the fight and didn't change any minds.
I've had my say and thanks for reading it. I've read your comments and understand them.

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You talked about it before it was known he suffered a serious brain injury?

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I think so, but I'm not positive, I was going on about him taking too many punches and his puffy face. I think I threw in my standard line about everyone being a tough guy as long they're not getting pounded on.
Should be easy enough to check out if you're interested.

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If you complained about the stoppage before the injury came out, I can respect that. If not, the opinion is meaningless.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

He has not been neglected or forgotten.


I pray for him and his family every night, as do many boxing fans I'm sure.

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But he WAS neglected by those who were supposed to be looking out for him on that sad night. Whoever said to call a cab to take him to hospital while an ambulance stood there really didn't help him did he
He will never be forgotten by the true boxing fans though GOD BLESS Mago

you guys got me thinking. i didnt even think of mago's trainer not stopping it, nor did i take into consideration that mago was throwing back like a MF, and didnt look really hurt. but still, his own trainer or the doctor should have done something. idiots.
i dont say "stop the fight" very often, but that time i did. poor mago.

Klit needs to man up and at least do something to help the family. aint like he is broke or anything!!


P.S was it just me, or did Perez look like a monster in that fight? those guys were throwing BOMBS! he hasnt looked that good since. weird. i heard perez got a magomed tattoo in tribute to the fallen warrior. classy!

I don't think Perez looked that great, he was still eating a lot of shots from a guy who was really one dimensional in his attack. Perez looked slow and stationary.

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I don't think Perez looked that great, he was still eating a lot of shots from a guy who was really one dimensional in his attack. Perez looked slow and stationary.

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he was taking a lot of magomed shots! even was stunned a few times i think. but his punches seemed very hard for that fight. apparently.

He landed a fuck load of them but couldn't get Magomed out of there, he made him a cripple after the fight but couldn't get a KO so minus points for him IMO.

When you fight for a living you entertain people, boxing is the ultimate of sports you can't play it
football is not life and death, were boxing is.
Abdusalamov paid a hefty price, for our entertainment,! yes he has been neglected and forgotten
it's wrong I wonder what can be put in place, to help boxers out like Magomed that have been injured.?

Mago is home and "recovering" but he will always be an invalid as best as I can surmise. The photos are extremely troubling as he has lost a lot of weight.


The law suit includes the God awful NYSAC and just about everyone connected to the fight, especially the ring doctors.


Early in the fight Mago took a brutal, albeit unintentional elbow to the head and IMO that one was the one that did the early damage. Another in the last minute of the fight also took its toll.


While the law suit (and/or settlement) will provide for Mago's family, it will never bring him back to normal. This one did not come out of the culture of boxing because in this one, all the necessary precautions were not in place. Someone must pay and I hope its the rotten NYSAC that has been responsible for so many other tragedies.