Manny v Floyd is "Bullshit" and not gonna happen says Ariza (Video)

Just watched this video , obviously not a Bob Arum fan but a lot of what he says adds up especially the bits about Arum stopping his fighters fighting.

Anyone agree with Ariza?

"I think it's really disrespectful to parade Manny through all this trivial radio sites that sit there and call out Mayweather. It's sad. I mean, it's deceptive and to me, it's just straight lying what Bob Arum is doing. To me, it's revolting that the fans have to sit there and get their hopes up for something that doesn't exist...Chavez Sr. said it too...it's impossible to work with Bob...he's never going to let it happen," stated world-class Strength & Conditioning Coach Alex Ariza, who had A LOT to say about Bob Arum, the media, and the long-awaited showdown between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

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Im starting to serious think we won't ever see this fight and i believe what Mayweather says below ;)


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Floyd Mayweather has insisted that Manny Pacquiao has no say in negotiations and has been lying while he blamed Bob Arum for the inability to reach a deal.

Pacquiao confirmed in an interview with ESPN The Magazine on Tuesday that he had agreed to a 60-40 purse split in favour of his opponent while he also signed off on the drug-testing plan, venue and date.


As a result, from his perspective he is now waiting for Mayweather to sign the contract and officially confirm that the fight is on for May 2.

However, according to Mayweather it isn’t that simple as he has insisted that Pacquiao is not the boss of his own promotional company and so he has “no say so” in negotiations or what he can agree to.

Mayweather was speaking on DJ Whoo Kid’s “The Whoolywood Shuffle” show to clear up the rumours as he also revealed that while they are in negotiations, a deal is not close.

“Everything that everybody is just insinuating, what everybody been saying on TV is false. It’s not true at all…Once again, I’ve been saying this for the longest, Pacquiao has no say so because Pacquiao fights under Top Rank Promotions. I have Mayweather Promotions. Mayweather Promotions is my company, so Pacquiao, he’s not in a position to call any shots as of right now and he’s not the A-side, so everything that everybody has been hearing has been rumors. Do I want to fight Pacquiao? Absolutely! Are we negotiating? Absolutely! But has the fight been made? Not at all,” he said.

“Hopefully it’s Mayweather-Pacquiao [on May 2]. Of course we’re trying to make the fight happen between me and Pacquiao. Are we negotiating? Absolutely we are negotiating. Pacquiao said that he agreed to everything. What did you agree to? You have no say so. You have a boss. That’s called Top Rank Promotions. That’s not called Pacquiao Promotions. With my company, it’s called Mayweather Promotions,” Mayweather explained.

“We have been going back and forth, communicating with their team. Hopefully we can make this fight happen. But once again, we have to look at his pay-per-view numbers. His last fight didn’t even do 300,000 homes. So let’s make this make sense. I mean, he did get knocked out not too long ago. No matter what you say, Floyd Mayweather is still winning. When they take shots at Floyd Mayweather, he’s still winning. He’s still making hundreds of millions.”

Mayweather added, “We’re trying, but it’s been extremely difficult dealing with Top Rank. I don’t want to sit right here and point the finger at Pacquiao and say it’s him, because it’s not Pacquiao. It’s his promoter. So a lot of times when Pacquiao say, ‘Oh, I agree.’ You don’t have nothing to do with this. You’re not a boss. On the chess board, you’re a pawn.”

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I started worrying right when Bob said "as far as our side is concerned it's done, now we wait on movement from Mayweather". Movement? That to me sounds like they signed a contract that hadn't been agreed to or else why would Floyd have to move? And beyond that why are there deadlines before HBO and Showtime have even agreed? There can be no fight unless HBO and Showtime agree so Floyd would have to be an idiot to agree before they agree because then you have an established worth which limits your earning potential in negotiations. Also why say negotiating in the media is bad then talk about every single aspect in the media from split to gloves to testing? It all seems like a way to spoil a fight while shifting blame. But fingers crossed it gets done.

Yea Seen the video this morning ariza makes some good points, I don't think this fights going to happen and I do believe mayweather wants this fight more than ever

Ariza makes a lot of good points, Bob Arum is a known cheat and liar and he should be asked to prove every statement he makes.

Hasn't Arum got some Mega $$$ deal in place in China, i reckon he might want to take it there as part of his side of the bargain.

Floyd as we all know is never fighting outside of Vegas

i dont understand why bob arum would not want this to happen

A loss agsinst Mayweather would have a much worse effect than that KO by JMM or getting robbed against Bradley; he's still Pacquiao.

With Mayweather, it's his nemesis we're talking about and perhaps Arum doesn't want the fight to happen for that reason: it would burst what's left of the bubble, meaning less money for Arum in future fights, giving Floyd even more star-power, etc.

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Pride.

He hates floyd with a passion.

He couldn't live with floyd beating his golden goose.

No offense to manny, he is a great fighter but bob arum is a c@nt.

Arum would have to open his accounting to the scrutiny of others. He can't afford to let the world and especially his fighters know how he screws them over.

The guy who runs CBS (which owns Showtime) is according to press reports handling the Floyd side of the negotiations, or at least overseeing them. Arum is handling the Manny side. Moonves, the CBS guy supposedly got involved because he thinks there's too muchleeway for Floyd to dodge the fight due to Espinoza's (Showtime boxing boss) close relationship with Haymon. Moonves has apparently told Espinoza that if he doesn't get the fight made he's fired and has told Haymon if the fight doesn't get made then Showtime does no more business with him other than the two Floyd fights they have contractually agreed to.

I'm hoping that this is accurate but I'm not holding my breath anymore. With Alvarez Cotto falling through it's looking like Floyd-Cotto, Manny-maybe Khan. If that does happen I hope Haymon does get blown out by Showtime and both Showtime and HBO hold the line against him till he implodes.

I've watched that 3 times, damn interesting stuff.

What about the contract with the Venetian? Would Bob have to reimburse the Venetian if he brought Manny to MGM? Let's see if he shows the contract Manny supposedly signed like Shaeffer did. How can he sign a contract if negotiating is still happening?What about the non-disclosure? He tears the lies apart over and over.

People behind the scenes at both HBO and Showtime are saying Bob is in the way, history says Bob is in the way. Even Mannys manager says Bob is in the way. Produce the damn contract, that's easy enough.

On one hand, he's just a conditioning coach. BUT...

He's dropping science bombs..Arum took 100 plus million and owes it? He claimed Arum put out the needle gate? And Pac allowed it?

If so, really sad for pac. Pac could end up fighting long after his prime if he doesnt have a handle at least on the purse(s) he's made.

Ariza is a strength and conditioning coach who thinks he's a lawyer/accountant. The fighters themselves aren't privy to any of the business going on around them so what makes this cunt think he does. This cunt has zero integrity nor any business acumen because if he did he would just stick to his fucking job.

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Ariza is a strength and conditioning coach who thinks he's a lawyer/accountant. The fighters themselves aren't privy to any of the business going on around them so what makes this cunt think he does. This cunt has zero integrity nor any business acumen because if he did he would just stick to his fucking job.

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I notice you didn't address anything he said though. What about what he said?

I cannot believe you guys. Youre willing to take the word of a low down POC who would stoop to kicking a man suffering from Parkinsons syndrome in the chest??? Not too long ago he was in the Paquaio stable & saying it was all Mayweathers fault the fight hadn't happened. Till Freddie wised up and kicked him out. Notice who immediately hired him??
As far as I'm concerned if Mayweather ducks Paquaio again then he's done completely in my book. As far as I'm concerned he is not an active fighter just a prima donna impersonating a fighter

I think the fight may still happen. I don't know, it just seems like hot air. I could be wrong. :rolleyes:

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Ariza is a strength and conditioning coach who thinks he's a lawyer/accountant. The fighters themselves aren't privy to any of the business going on around them so what makes this cunt think he does. This cunt has zero integrity nor any business acumen because if he did he would just stick to his fucking job.

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Didn't even bother watching it because he's just a softcock like you

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Didn't even bother watching it because he's just a softcock like you

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Haha! You Pactards really are so stupid.

it has always been apparent that arum is the biggest obstacle. he hates floyd and floyd hates him. pac does whatever arum says. arum lies to the media. arum is almost becoming don king scum status. ive never liked him.

anyways, i believe that it is arum that is the problem and that without him, the fight would have been made long ago.

We are all tired of the circus and teasing

Shame on them all

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I've watched that 3 times, damn interesting stuff.

What about the contract with the Venetian? Would Bob have to reimburse the Venetian if he brought Manny to MGM? Let's see if he shows the contract Manny supposedly signed like Shaeffer did. How can he sign a contract if negotiating is still happening?What about the non-disclosure? He tears the lies apart over and over.

People behind the scenes at both HBO and Showtime are saying Bob is in the way, history says Bob is in the way. Even Mannys manager says Bob is in the way. Produce the damn contract, that's easy enough.

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That's exactly when my ears pricked up, i didn't know Arum had that deal in place and that is the Exact reason i don't think this is happening - EVER

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Haha! You Pactards really are so stupid.

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Not as dumb as you cunts who subject yourself to watching a boring ass cooning "fighter" stink out a joint for 12 rounds.

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Not as dumb as you cunts who subject yourself to watching a boring ass cooning "fighter" stink out a joint for 12 rounds.

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Not as dumb as you cunts who subject yourself to watching a boring ass cooning "fighter" stink out a joint for 12 rounds.

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Not as dumb as you cunts who subject yourself to watching a boring ass cooning "fighter" stink out a joint for 12 rounds.

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Strange how we all have our different opinions of favourite fighters and slag them off to each other in a banter type way, but only a complete cock like "jahmez" would use racist terms like cooning to get his point across!

What an arsehole.

@jahmez

Keep the racist shit off this board otherwise i'll start deleting. Thanks.

This fight will never ever happen.

Say and believe it.

This fight will never happen.

This fight will never happen.

This fight will never happen.

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Can't even be positive about it, as the only way the fight gets signed is if Bob Arum dies :-\

There is nothing racist about the word cooning - go look it up. It's exactly what Floyd does - he's a pathetic cartoon character version of all the great past American fighters who plays on modern day stereotypes to sell more tickets to his snooze fests.

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Strange how we all have our different opinions of favourite fighters and slag them off to each other in a banter type way, but only a complete cock like "jahmez" would use racist terms like cooning to get his point across!

What an arsehole.

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Lol gImp crawls out of his box to rescue the day. Only a complete cock mongofloyd like yourself starts sending hexes via private message when someone iinsults your little man god. Chill out Ellerbe

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There is nothing racist about the word cooning - go look it up. It's exactly what Floyd does - he's a pathetic cartoon character version of all the great past American fighters who plays on modern day stereotypes to sell more tickets to his snooze fests.

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I've watched that 3 times, damn interesting stuff.

What about the contract with the Venetian? Would Bob have to reimburse the Venetian if he brought Manny to MGM? Let's see if he shows the contract Manny supposedly signed like Shaeffer did. How can he sign a contract if negotiating is still happening?What about the non-disclosure? He tears the lies apart over and over.

People behind the scenes at both HBO and Showtime are saying Bob is in the way, history says Bob is in the way. Even Mannys manager says Bob is in the way. Produce the damn contract, that's easy enough.

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I haven't been following this stuff very close so I could have missed a headline hear and there, but I never saw one that said Pacquiao signed a contract with the Venetian. I saw one that said Pacquiao signed a two year extension deal woth $75 million and another one that top rank signed a deal for Zou and the Murata from Japan but nothing that would indicate a deal with a Venue for certain fighters. When you thing about it, it make no sence for a promotional company to sign a contract with a venue to have exclusive site rights to a fighter. I doubt if it is true, that Top Rank has a contract with the Venetian in Macu, it would be exclusive to Pacquiao fights.

Taking a look a the video, a lot of stuff that Ariza says just does'nt make much sence. From what I could gather, it sounded like Ariza is saying there was no contract for Pacquiao to sign and it's all BS.

I said I'll believe there is a fight when the venue is set and it's offical. So far I've been seeing that the venue is set, Mayweater confirms they are in negeoiations. Then as part of the rumor mill and appearances Pacquiao has signed on to Mayweather demands and is just waiting for Mayweather to confirm. Other than that, I've just seen the rumor mill anfer rumor mill. One speculation is Mayweater is waiting for the Superbowl to announce the fight.

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Not as dumb as you cunts who subject yourself to watching a boring ass cooning "fighter" stink out a joint for 12 rounds.

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Strange how we all have our different opinions of favourite fighters and slag them off to each other in a banter type way, but only a complete cock like "jahmez" would use racist terms like cooning to get his point across!

What an arsehole.

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Lol gImp crawls out of his box to rescue the day. Only a complete cock mongofloyd like yourself starts sending hexes via private message when someone iinsults your little man god. Chill out Ellerbe

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What on earth are you talking about you pathetic liar!

You were the one who pm many years ago about an old thread!

Like I said before, my respect for floyd stays in the boxing ring and nothing else..stop trying to change the subject.

Your a pathetic little keyboard warrior.

Good day to you sir!

I didn't buy either guy's PPV last time around and I doubt I do it this time, especially if Floyd fights Cotto again and Pacquiao fights Vargas. Shame on them.

I really really want to see this fight happen, probably still more than any other fight in boxing and I still maintain as I did when it was very first even mentioned that Floyd would win. Last week I was actually quite confident it was about to finally come off and then Floyd posted this video of Ariza on his facebook saying something like "Thanks for clearing my name Alex Ariza" and then I realised this fight is probably never going to happen!! All I can say is that it's an absolute shame for Boxing!

I wish these two would just go away but the field is narrowing down to just Floyd. Arum has already said they are looking at Khan now. Cotto is now waiting on Floyd. Floyd is going to Australia for dinner unless he gets turned back with Mundine waiting in the lobby to lobby.


The puppeteer claims are getting a little long in the tooth by Floyd. Saber-tooth tiger long. The world must be the puppet master cause even Obama has called for the fight. And Ariza's account of anything is about as credible as Homers account of the Trojan horse. And his honesty equal to that of Judas Iscariot. I assume everyone has seen his latest video input.

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"Hopefully its Mayweather-Pacquiao [on May 2nd]. Of course we are trying to make the fight happen between me and Pacquiao. Are we negotiating? Absolutely we are negotiating. But Pacquiao said that he agreed to everything. What did you agree to? You have no say so. You have a boss. You don't have no say so. You have a boss.....that's called Top Rank Promotions. It's not called Pacquiao Promotions. With my company, it's called Mayweather Promotions,"

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Its really tough to stay out of this freak show. I never thought I'd agree to the ducking claims and spent what feels like a lifetime defending this guy concerning this fight but he just does not want it. Nothing makes it more clear then the statement above.

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"We have been going back and forth, communicating with their team. Hopefully we can make this fight happen. Once again, we have to look at his pay-per-view numbers. His last fight didn't even do 300,000 homes. Figures make sense. He did get knocked out not too long ago. No matter what you say, Floyd Mayweather still winning. When they take shots at Floyd Mayweather, he still winning and making hundreds of millions.

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I wonder if historians are noting quotes. How many ways can a man back out of the same fight. Really ppv's are now a reason when he just fought Maidana twice? Is Manny going to hurt the draw or something lol

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"We're going to make it happen though. We're trying, but it's been extremely difficult dealing with Top Rank. And I don't want to sit here and point the finger at Pacquiao and say 'it's him.' It's not Pacquiao, it's his promoter. A lot of times when Pacquiao says 'I agreed' - you don't have nothing to do with this, you're not a boss. On a chess board you're a pawn."

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It really is pathetic. He should just say “I don’t want to fight him”

What is a word for brainwashed on steroids. That’s what a person would have to be to buy this shit any longer.

I wont even respond to a response. Its that used up and I'm spent on this pseudo super fight. @Andre @Master ban me for a period if I ever reply to another thread involving these two unless the fight is signed. Including this one.

Dont know what you are talking about.
Oh is the play the fans back on?
They'll do a broadway show on this one day: A play about how the public were taken for a long pay as you go ride.
I wont even buy it in if it ever happens, i'll watch a replay, I havent paid for a Floyd fight in years.

Some people get so involved with the bullshit plot that they forget to step back and see the big picture. Floyd is the only one who benefits from this. He is a true student of the game and he knows that time hurts Manny more than it hurts him. He will fight Manny but it will be his 50th and final fight, for the records on paper and after his Showtime contract expires. Problem is that I think Manny knows this and doesn't plan to be around that long and that is why he is pushing for the fight right now.

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Haha! You Pactards really are so stupid.

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Not as dumb as you cunts who subject yourself to watching a boring ass cooning "fighter" stink out a joint for 12 rounds.

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Strange how we all have our different opinions of favourite fighters and slag them off to each other in a banter type way, but only a complete cock like "jahmez" would use racist terms like cooning to get his point across!

What an arsehole.

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Lol gImp crawls out of his box to rescue the day. Only a complete cock mongofloyd like yourself starts sending hexes via private message when someone iinsults your little man god. Chill out Ellerbe

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What on earth are you talking about you pathetic liar!

You were the one who pm many years ago about an old thread!

Like I said before, my respect for floyd stays in the boxing ring and nothing else..stop trying to change the subject.

Your a pathetic little keyboard warrior.

Good day to you sir!

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Seriously give Imp a break, the guy doesn't hurl about insults, is respectful and doesn't deserve to be hounded like this. I don't have anytime for Mayweather's out of the ring nonsense, and think he clearly doesn't want the fight, but there is little point blaming his fans.

Imp threw hexes towards me via private msg so I'm just giving him a bit of shit but he's a big witch, he'll be alright.