Is killing wildlife for sport unethical? I think it is.
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Is killing wildlife for sport unethical? I think it is.
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Hey that mountain to the left of centre looks like the profile of a dude laying on his back looking at the sky. :cool:
I think we could easily have an open season on realtors and family court lawyers,no hearts so they got a better chance at surviving than some harmless animal.
If you eat what you hunt sort of passable i was thinking fertalizer for the real estate agents and lawyers though.
Everybody I know hunts; nobody I know hunts for sport. In a state that ranks #48 for wages, adding a couple hundred pounds of meat to the freezer is not a game.
just saw something on the news about the bison hunt near Yellowstone. People are complaining because of the gut piles left behind, but they couldn't complain about the hunters or the hunt itself. Because it is a Native American tribal hunt that lasts until April, so not even the regular enviromentalist crews are out trying to disrupt things.
You should only hunt if you are to use the meat. Otherwise, you are just a barbarian with a sick and twisted heart.
anyone who hunts for a sport is piling up and piling up extremely bad karma, and will one day be hunted by giant birds and wild game just like they are the prey and the wild birds and the wild game are the aggressors. this is the 6th level of hell according to Dante Alighieri
I think you have to be a real fucking cunt to do that. When I hear about people who pay big money to go hunt tigers and shit in Africa, I can't help but hope they get mauled to death. Fuckin pricks.
I mean if you live in a village and you have a lion or something lurking around and snatching you villagers, or if you're a farmer and you have some kind of animal eating your crops or fucking with your livestock, knock yourself out. But if you're not killing an animal either for food or to protect lives or your livelihood, or putting a sick/injured animal out of it's misery, than you're a scumbag IMO.
I'm ok with subsistence hunting. If you have to hunt to live then so be it.
Trophy hunters, outfitters and those who take part in things like spring bear and wolf hunts or people who just like to kill things are the SCUM of the earth. That open season attitude/mentality has been hugely responsible for the desolation of continental Africa and the reduction of life on this planet by 50% in 40 years. Our species acts like its a contest. Just think, at this rate we should have at least an 80% or 90% extinction rate by 2050
I wouldn't be so against sport hunting if the targets were morally appropriate. Banker shooting would really take off with the kids and who cares about the pounds of shredded blubber?
You're talking about stuff like this....
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I know PLENTY of hunters, none of which do the above, all of whom care about what they hunt because if what they hunt is no longer around then they would not be able to hunt anymore. There are big pay hunts in Africa which could actually help animal populations as well as the locals in bringing money to their area so their can afford doctors, medicine, water, etc.
Most of the people I know who go after endangered animals shoot them with cameras and not with guns.
I shoot animals and people most weekends :-)
Not to get to serious but when you view how people treat other people its really not surprising how we treat non-humans. I guess thats what makes it all the more disgusting also. Well that and the fact that those that care have to witness it. I've tried to find a word to cover "voluntary species suicide" which would apply specifically for us since we are so special and I cant find one. I've used the term "empiricide" in relationship to what it is we do and question why we do the same things over and over and over again expecting different results but that does not seem to cut it here completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
It's another reason to be rid of the inbred Royal Family. Most of us see animals as friends, but they still kill for fun. They also hang out with best mate peadophiles. So, in their minds ANYTHING is prey. They need to be eradicated. They are the root of the problem, but they have protectors all around.
Charles should shoot William as he is likely a different family, but for some reason we carry on with the lies. Harry....ginger....Dad....who? Same family? Bizarre. There should be DNA testing considering the welfare payments to these scumbags.
Over here we have rich toffs on their horses chasing a little fox through the countryside with a pack of wild hounds ready to rip it apart all in the name of sport and culture.
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Originally Posted by Master
That's awful, never heard of that. Fuck, who gets off on that kind of thing?
Fox hunting is an activity involving the tracking, chase, and sometimes killing of a fox, traditionally a red fox, by trained foxhounds or other scent hounds, and a group of unarmed followers led by a master of foxhounds, who follow the hounds on foot or on horseback.Fox hunting originated in the 16th century in the form which was practised legally until 2005 when it was banned although certain modified forms of hunting foxes with hounds are still within the law.
Fox hunting isn't actually "hunting" per say....doesn't require much talent (if any) and the dogs do all the work. It's the chase that matters, the kill is not nice at all.
Using dogs for hunting (especially when they aren't flushing or retrieving birds) is kind of a tough practice. Some dogs get lost on hunts, some get injured or killed as well depending on what you're after. Plott Hounds are some great hunters, my dog is part Plott, but I wouldn't use him for what he was bred for because as a pet he's too precious for me to risk him against some stupid wild boar or a black bear.
The people I know that are opposed to hunting are just completely unaware of the skill, dedication, hard work, and just the over all strain it puts on a person...to have a hands on interaction with how you feed your family really deepens your respect for nature. It's tough to cull an animal....a lot of the times hunters are happy with their shot they are most happy the animal wasn't wounded and that the death was as quick and painless as possible for them. The hunters I know are probably more tenderhearted around animals than the eco-nuts I know.
Those fox hunters are a bunch of cunts. I never understood why anyone got off on violence against animals.
To me hunting and animal cruelty like that are completely different things. To me it's night and day, like comparing a soldier killing an enemy soldier on the battlefield and some pathetic lone wolf gunning down people on the street because girls wouldn't sleep with him. Hunting is a noble art and it's what we've been doing to survive since mankind began, killing an animal for the sake of it is just being a cunt imo.
animal cruelty is just is just as bad as pedophiliaQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
With a camera :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitNot to get to serious but when you view how people treat other people its really not surprising how we treat non-humans. I guess thats what makes it all the more disgusting also. Well that and the fact that those that care have to witness it. I've tried to find a word to cover "voluntary species suicide" which would apply specifically for us since we are so special and I cant find one. I've used the term "empiricide" in relationship to what it is we do and question why we do the same things over and over and over again expecting different results but that does not seem to cut it here completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Drag hunting is the only legal form available now which does not involve a fox at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
They are all a shit that needs wiping up IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustanimal cruelty is just is just as bad as pedophiliaQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
That's even "disgusting'er" than bullfighting (the latter at least takes balls and skill, even though I'm against it). I can't see the difference between the picture above and pitting two dogs against each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I never hunted, although I used to go spearfishing a few years ago, but to me hunting (as spearfishing) would require at least three conditions:
1. A considerable degree of difficulty (no pompous tourists on pay-hunt safaris).
2. What you catch is edible and you actually intend to eat it.
and 3: it's not an endangered species.
Have you a backup gun in case) one angers and charges at you?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
When I come over, I challenge you to a duel, fastest draw best focus wins.:cool:
You could include the Japs pretending to hunt down the last whales in the name of science to that list.
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Originally Posted by goti71That's even "disgusting'er" than bullfighting (the latter at least takes balls and skill, even though I'm against it). I can't see the difference between the picture above and pitting two dogs against each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I never hunted, although I used to go spearfishing a few years ago, but to me hunting (as spearfishing) would require at least three conditions:
1. A considerable degree of difficulty (no pompous tourists on pay-hunt safaris).
2. What you catch is edible and you actually intend to eat it.
and 3: it's not an endangered species.
Were foxes classed as vermin over there?
They are here,you can kill em, they even have bounties at times in some areas.
That was what the upper class twits use to justify fox hunting by labeling foxes vermin but that would not explain them dressing up like prats, destroying the countryside and using hungry hounds to chase the little fox.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUbZJcdlcScQuote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Also, if foxes are eating chickens and what not then you have to kill them. I don't suggest allowing a dog to rip them apart as at least in MY neck of the woods rabies is a very real, very dangerous threat to man and family pet alike. I've known people who have been attacked by rabid foxes.
Yeah same reason out here,in case of an outbreak.They walk the streets in the cities out here of a night loads of them we need to cull them.
My uncle has been hunting in Australia, in fact he has helped out a number of people down under with hunting deer. Which is his job really...he teaches hunters how to hunt in a way that keeps the deer populations happy and healthy and that helps keep a part of the ecosystem in balance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Sport and trophy hunting I am against. In my area we have an over population of deer who often starve during the winter months. A couple towns hire professional hunters to thin the population. The meat is given to charity or the hunters take it. States where hunting is serious make stringent laws about it. If you kill an animal just to kill it you can do time but more often you lose your license and face big fines. If your in the boonies and feeding your family I see no problem with it. If you hunt purely for sport you are a prick. I personally have taken down a deer but will never do it again. I was hunting with some friends in Maine who do rely on the meat but killing animals is not my cup of tea.
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Originally Posted by Andre
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I wonder if you are against all forms of hunting but are not a vegetarian are you a hypocrite.
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Also think about this...what is more humane? A cow/pig/chicken cooped up in a stall so tiny they can't move around and then they are killed. Or a deer lives a life outdoors, roams free, and then boom is shot and killed by a hunter.
Which life would YOU rather have?
I would think so, but I think anyone who is against hunting is probably an unreasonable person anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
I think even vegetarians need to acknowledge hunting as an integral part of human history.
Anyone who supports sport hunting is a cunt though.
I'm in Spain. They usually issue licenses to cull fox and wild boar populations. Boars cause quite a few road accidents in my area.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreQuote:
Originally Posted by goti71That's even "disgusting'er" than bullfighting (the latter at least takes balls and skill, even though I'm against it). I can't see the difference between the picture above and pitting two dogs against each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I never hunted, although I used to go spearfishing a few years ago, but to me hunting (as spearfishing) would require at least three conditions:
1. A considerable degree of difficulty (no pompous tourists on pay-hunt safaris).
2. What you catch is edible and you actually intend to eat it.
and 3: it's not an endangered species.
Were foxes classed as vermin over there?
They are here,you can kill em, they even have bounties at times in some areas.
If there's one thing that gives me great pleasure it's seeing those Spanish bullfighting cocksuckers get a horn up their ass or into their heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by goti71
Boars can do big damage. The problem in the Southern United States is a lot of hog farms have escapees and those hogs that escape turn feral in a matter of days, they develop tusks and coarse hair and they are constantly eating and digging up land. The bad thing about the formerly domestic hogs is they are usually really really big.
Hunters will lose dogs hunting boar, that is just a fact of life regardless of if you put safety vests on your dogs too. Those hogs gore and bite and they are mean as fuck.
You live in a wild place. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
That I doQuote:
Originally Posted by Master