Froch does want Ward in UK showdown and dares him to cross the pond

Froch says there's no way he's giving up his WBA belt and has dared Ward to come and fight him in England.

Did not expect this.....

He told reporters: "I fought him in the US. Now it's only right that he comes over here. To be a truly great champion you have to box overseas. Ward needs to be forced to travel out of his comfort zone.

"I dare him. He will discover that I'm a very different animal here than I was that night on the Boardwalk."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box..._campaign=1490

http://www.boxingscene.com/froch-war...travel--88042?

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/boxing/n...am_208827.html

It's a fight I wouldn't mind seeing and with Wards inactivity, I can see Froch doing better this time out.

froch shouldnt give anything in the negotiations

no ones heard of ward for the last 2 years, why should he then get a title shot against the main man where he wants it

and its not as if ward will draw the crowds in america

if the fight isnt under frochs terms then there shouldnt be a fight

I love how you all think actually winning a fight is irrelevant haha

It's whatever, I hope Ward does go over there. He will beat Froch more convincingly than the first time. Froch is on the downhill. And immediately Ward is on top of the sport again.(he never was not on top but fans will know again)

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Originally Posted by erics44

froch shouldnt give anything in the negotiations

no ones heard of ward for the last 2 years, why should he then get a title shot against the main man where he wants it

and its not as if ward will draw the crowds in america

if the fight isnt under frochs terms then there shouldnt be a fight

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And that's exactly what Froch is thinking and he knows this ain't gonna happen. Froch has already said he won't fight Ward again and if he did, he would probably lose, and Ward has also said he probably wouldn't fight in the UK, worrying about a hometown decision (His words).
I hear all you are saying about Ward and agree to a certain extent. the Problem is Froch is the WBA Regular Champion and Ward is the WBA Super champion.
it's all bollocks , but here's an example: Gary Jacobs is WBA Regular Champ at MW , Golovkin is WBA Super champ. Would Gary Jacobs get the fight on his terms?
the fight won't happen.

Gary Jacobs is the middleweight champ? Some comeback he's made then.

He should come over, Muhammad Ali defend his title on the road countless times. Loads of great champions have. Ward knows he's in for it if he came here.

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I love how you all think actually winning a fight is irrelevant haha

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Could say the same about every fucking one of your Ali threads


Clown.

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Gary Jacobs is the middleweight champ? Some comeback he's made then.

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"Danny" Jacobs. And he is the "regular" WBA champ, just as Eubank is the "interim" WBA champ at Middleweight.

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Gary Jacobs is the middleweight champ? Some comeback he's made then.

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"Danny" Jacobs. And he is the "regular" WBA champ, just as Eubank is the "interim" WBA champ at Middleweight.

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I'm sure fenster was having a laugh at the post above his

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Gary Jacobs is the middleweight champ? Some comeback he's made then.

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"Danny" Jacobs. And he is the "regular" WBA champ, just as Eubank is the "interim" WBA champ at Middleweight.

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ha ha. As the young kids say nowadays, "My Bad." I'll have to take that one on the chins I suppose.;D

So if negotiations stall & it goes to purse bid & RocNation wins will Froch travel? :p

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So if negotiations stall & it goes to purse bid & RocNation wins will Froch travel? :p

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rocnation are a joke!

Another attempt at Vegas? We dare him to come to Wembley and maybe he'll say Vegas.

This wouldn't even half full Wembley as no one the UK knows who Ward is, Froch wants it at Nottigham forests football ground which is a khazi that holds about 25,000 as its his hometown

I reckon this would easily sell out wembley with the right undercard

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I reckon this would easily sell out wembley with the right undercard

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if it was sold as Carls official last fight then maybe but is there even 90,000 people living in Nottingham? ;D

If it's on ITV then people would watch for free at home anyway ;)

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I reckon this would easily sell out wembley with the right undercard

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Like quigg v Frampton or Brook v kahn even De gale v groves 2 ,something big like a double main event

I can't see Ward coming to England and I can't see Froch going to America and I can't see their relative promoters coming up with a deal before it goes to purse bids. So what happens if it does go to purse bids? Obviously it's worth more in Britain than it is in America so Hearn should win the bid. But what happens then? Can't see Ward coming to England.

Some good points here ;)


Froch said he won’t be giving up his last remaining world title, and he dared Ward to come over to the UK to fight him at the Forest Ground in Nottingham. Froch doesn’t think that Ward likes to travel outside of the U.S, and he seems to be expecting him not to take the fight.

It’ll be really interesting to see if Ward calls Froch’s bluff by agreeing to go over and fight Froch in the UK. The question is if Ward does this will Froch quickly vacate his WBA title rather than getting in the ring with Ward for a potential second defeat.

Froch was beaten in their fight in 2011, even though Ward was fighting him with just one hand. Ward came into the fight with a fractured left hand, which forced him to use just his right hand for much of the fight. Ward did use his left, but he wasn’t able to get the power on his shots due to the pain from the fracture.

“I fought him [Andre Ward] in the US,’ Froch said via the Dailymail.co.uk. ‘Now it’s only right that he comes over here. To be a truly great champion you have to box overseas. Ward needs to be forced to travel out of his comfort zone. I dare him. He will discover that I’m a very different animal here than I was that night on the Boardwalk.”

Froch says he was bummed out in being in the United States around Christmas time the last time he fought Ward. Froch wasn’t happy away from home around Christmas, and he wasn’t happy in fighting Ward in Atlantic City.

I don’t see how things would be different with Froch fighting in the UK rather than the United States against Ward. I mean, Froch looked equally poor in his fight against the talented Andre Dirrell, and that fight took place in Nottingham.

The only difference was that two of the judges gave Froch a controversial 12 round split decision win. If Froch wasn’t talented enough to beat a one-handed Ward in the U.S, then why in the heck would anything be difference in the UK?

Unless Froch is hoping to get another controversial win like the one he got over Dirrell, I don’t see how the venue and the country would make any difference at all. The fact of the matter is Ward simply was the better fighter. They could have staged the fight in Froch’s living room with his family and friends as the spectators, and I don’t see the outcome being any different.

Ward could really throw a wrench into Froch’s plans by agreeing to fight him in the UK. The fans could then see if Froch was on the level when he dared Ward to fight him in the UK, or if Froch was merely flapping his gums in hopes of winning points with the fans.

Will Andre Ward call Froch’s bluff?

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I reckon this would easily sell out wembley with the right undercard

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Decent fights cost the promotor money though. They have to pay those fighters and the bigger the name the bigger the purse.

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So if negotiations stall & it goes to purse bid & RocNation wins will Froch travel? :p

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rocnation are a joke!

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Fair enough :-\ but the question still remains, if Wards promoters win a purse bid how quick does Froch vacate :p

i think that it would be smart for ward to call the bluff. if froch bites, go over there, beat him easily again, then get rid of the "only fight in my hometown" title that has been his biggest criticism. it would also make him relevant again very quickly.

i honestly dont really care what he does, as long as he hurries up and fights somebody.

Andre Ward To Froch: You Are Not Dictating Anything! - Boxing News

Ward being a little bitch no surprises there

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Andre Ward To Froch: You Are Not Dictating Anything! - Boxing News

Ward being a little bitch no surprises there

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Froch should just fuck the WBA belt off and do what he wants at this stage of his career and go after the money.

Ward gets on my tits a bit to be honest, great fighter but very boring to watch and doesn't fight nearly enough for my liking.

((Gary Jacobs was a good Scottish welter from the 80/90s))

Matchroom wont beat RocNation if it goes to purse bids.

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((Gary Jacobs was a good Scottish welter from the 80/90s))

Matchroom wont beat RocNation if it goes to purse bids.

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Funny thing is, as soon as it was pointed out, I remembered him. (Nose splattered right across his face from memory.) :)

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((Gary Jacobs was a good Scottish welter from the 80/90s))

Matchroom wont beat RocNation if it goes to purse bids.

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Funny thing is, as soon as it was pointed out, I remembered him. (Nose splattered right across his face from memory.) :)

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Jacobs got smashed by Pernell Whitaker.

no disgrace in that.

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no disgrace in that.

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No but he was finished after that fight, thought he could have taken an easier champion and the fight was shown on BBC.

How many straw men does it take to fell a fence?

This shit is starting to resemble the goings on of the Floyd fanatics.
Ward should want to go to England and do this. If he is as good as his fans seem to think he is and this fight would be as easy as they say then why does the venue even matter for him specifically? Where's the cash? It cant then both be and not be about the cash at the same time.
In addition when is this guy going to come out from under his moms dress and go to someone elses house? Please don't compare him to Floyd or anyone else who stays home because this guy has not done squat in close to 5 years and got every fight from the tit he continues to milk at home. He got refs and judges.So once again he will buy his way out of sacking up. Oh I know these facts are uncomfortable. I also know gravity is at times. Nevertheless.....it exists.

Carl Froch wants to beat Andre Ward in Nottingham before setting his sights on Golovkin says Eddie Hearn | Boxing News | Sky Sports

Froch v Golovkin would be amazing and an absolute war, would love to see that next year 😎

Froch against Golovkin is very likely to get made at some point . There's no money fight for Golovkin at 160. Cotto and Alvarez are not going to fight him. So he's looking at a fight at 168 and the money fight at 168 is Froch, not Ward (and Ward is obviously a much harder fight for him than Froch). It's a FOTY candidate and it fills a stadium bigger than the City Ground and it's a massive PPV event. You've got two fighters and promoters who are outside the Haymon sphere of influence and who have limited options elsewhere too so it's more likely than not to get made.

Ward is a waste of time.

Skip Ward, go straight to Golovkin.

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Ward is a waste of time.

Skip Ward, go straight to Golovkin.

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I think once Golovkin has Unified the Middleweights he'll come straight after Froch.

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Carl Froch wants to beat Andre Ward in Nottingham before setting his sights on Golovkin says Eddie Hearn | Boxing News | Sky Sports

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A big ask!!!

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Carl Froch wants to beat Andre Ward in Nottingham before setting his sights on Golovkin says Eddie Hearn | Boxing News | Sky Sports

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A big ask!!!

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Hearn is talking bolocks. It's never going to be PPV in the States. Froch-Golovkin or even Froch -Ward or Ward-Golovkin are not going to be HBO PPV events. HBO will pay a license fee somewhere in between what they pay for Golovkin Monaco tape dealy fights and what they pay for domestic fights if Froch-Golovkin is something they can show on tape delay from England.

But this can sell 40 000 tickets, look at the pound dollar exchange rate and add on Sky PPV. It happens in England somewhere at some point. 32 year old Golovkin and pension top up Froch mean it has to.

I guess King Carl changed his mind about crossing the pond himself and fighting that little sissy Julio Cesar Chavez Jr in Las Vegas. Good for Chavez as that would have been an absolute slaughter on the level of nothing ever seen before in that weight class.

as for GGG King Carl will absolutely slice him and dice him with power shots. Nobody is beating Froch.

I'm a big Froch fan as most of you know. The bad news is Carl is made for Ward. So rather it's in GB or Mars it doesn't matter.