Rumor is his next opponent will be #46 rated MW in the world Tureano Johnson May 16th.
Let the excuses for this sham fly
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Rumor is his next opponent will be #46 rated MW in the world Tureano Johnson May 16th.
Let the excuses for this sham fly
Don't know that I would call it an "excuse", it's a stay busy fight until someone/anyone will fight him. Cotto won't mention his name and Lee is fighting Quillin. Who would be acceptable in your opinion? I just don't get the GGG hate from some on here...
until someone good will fight him? I will fight that piece of crap any day at 160. BBB destroys GGG
Friday?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Friday? WTF? I need 8 weeks of training just like any other fighter then I will be ready.
I knew Taureno Johnson would have been up next when we considered the dance card for GGG....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Johnson got ROBBED in that Stevenson fight... Johnson has a good amateur background... almost blue chip amateur background.... is willing to fight.... mature... plus he is durable.
Also, it's not that Johnson wants to fight, but who else is out there that wants to fight GGG at MW:
Miguel Cotto-- doesn't want the fight now.
Sergio Martinez-- is in rehab and semi-retirement and odds are he does not fight again, let alone fight GGG.
Peter Quillin-- does not want the fight and is already engaged.
Daniel Jacobs-- has a fight coming up in April.
Hassan N’Dam-- has a fight coming up soon.
Jermain Taylor-- just a waste of time and may be side-lined again due to his own stupidity.
Marco Antonio Rubio-- was just destroyed by GGG.
Andy Lee-- would take the fight but already engaged.
Dmitry Chudinov-- just coming off of a loss to Eubank and really was not in play.
Sam Soliman-- still in rehab.
Felix Sturm-- engaged with a fight already.
Daniel Geale-- was just destroyed by GGG.
Martin Murray-- was just destroyed by GGG.
Billy Joe Saunders-- has not made a whimper since eaking out a win vs. Eubank.
David Lemieux-- already engaged with another fight.
Jermall Charlo- engaged with another fight.
Eubank Jr.- has just recently fought Chudinov, and could have been lined up but he obviously wants a rematch with Saunders and the winner of Lee/Quillin.
Patrick Nielson- does not want to fight outside of Finland. And if you are going to fight Nielson, then you may as well fight Johnson.
Sergio Mora- could have taken this fight.
Willie Monroe Jr- could have taken this fight. But he and Johnson are almost identically ranked by the WBC and the WBA. So you could have had either, plus Johnson is signed with Roc Nation and has had more exposure and a tougher fight schedule than Monroe- Johnson having fought Stevens, most notably.
Billy Joe Saunders is the only one out there and let me throw in Mora also.
I would destroy him.
Let GGG clean up the division and force the fight with Cotto. :)
If Cotto had any integrity he would fight GGG, but he won't because he knows he'll get destroyed. He picked on an old, crippled Martinez and has no interest in fighting at MW. He's hoping to lure Floyd into another fight, probably for his MW title.
The middleweight division is full of chumps because nobody is calling out GGG. He's one of the hottest guys in boxing right now, any prize fighter worth a shit should be falling over themselves to want to fight him, but because they are all scrubs GGG has to fight low ranked guys with nothing to lose. Instead of blaming GGG, how about we start putting pressure on these chumps to fight GGG?
That is harsh to say Cotto picked a crippled Sergio. At the time Cotto was the underdog and took the chance. Cotto deserves to get paid for taking the chance but he does then need to face GGG or relinquish the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Freddie Roach is one of the great opportunists in the sport. Manny was a huge underdog against DLH, but Roach wanted the fight because he had the inside info on DLH that he was washed up and, according to Roach "couldn't pull the trigger anymore", and was ripe for the picking. He saw the same thing in Sergio, a 40 year old champ with knee problems.
I give Cotto credit for being the one to dethrone him, but Sergio was a far cry from the guy who dominated MW for a few years. But in the end, Cotto saw some low lying fruit and grabbed it. He has no intentions of sticking at MW.
Cotto still executed Sergio perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
He certainly did.
Now let's all get together and make the Puerto Rican fight the Kazak. Floyd is finally fighting Pac, now let's get some other guys to fight each other.
Cotto is a truly excellent fighter, and of course he is not 'scared' of anyone, but he is not really a middleweight.
I'd love to see Golovkin against Stanley Ketchell, Carlos Monzon and Marvin Hagler;D
What about a peak Sergio?Quote:
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You're never going to see it, you must like to torture yourself.Quote:
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That would have been incredible. Bombs away.Quote:
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It's either this fight or no fight and I'm a fan of fighters staying busy even if it's against lesser opposition. So I have no problem with this fight because it's between this or nothing at the moment.
Also lets not forget roach and Cotto bringing it to the the athletic commission's attention that sergio wheres a knee brace and trying to get it banned. Looked pretty cheap and desperate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
haha MARVIN tHE MONSTER would make minced meat out of GGG, 6 rounds tops.
I view Tureano Johnson as a top 10 middleweight. No doubt that this fight is a step back from Murray, who I view as the second best middleweight. At middleweight, I would like to see GGG against the Lee/Quillin winner or Cotto. Other than those matches, I'm not sure there's much remaining at 160.
Let's not single GGG out for dominating a division and not moving up though. Not only has Ward done the same thing, it's worse because he's cleaned out the division almost three years ago. And now he's angling for a fight against Froch, a guy he already beat?
Ward has been in court more than he has been in the ring, therefore it is a intriguing fight now against Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Perhaps, a tad bit if the fight is in Nottingham. However, I expect the exact same outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWard has been in court more than he has been in the ring, therefore it is a intriguing fight now against Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
It will be closer. It is the equivalent of Hatton v Floyd at 140lb, Dave Paris refereeing and the fight in Manchester.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratPerhaps, a tad bit if the fight is in Nottingham. However, I expect the exact same outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWard has been in court more than he has been in the ring, therefore it is a intriguing fight now against Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
yes and the catch weight... ugh pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
Like Floyd and Canelo. Pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflickeryes and the catch weight... ugh pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
Think the loaded agenda is clear when ya have to use Boxrec rankings to belittle a guys calibur. Johnson is #46 anything just like Tarver is a #8 heavyweight. Exactly who is Golovkin ducking?
You said any day!Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I agree, I don't think anyone should be fighting at catch weights. Fight at a weight division or go fuck your mother, that's what I always say (even when it doesn't apply).Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterLike Floyd and Canelo. Pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflickeryes and the catch weight... ugh pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
damn bro, you laid that down!Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI agree, I don't think anyone should be fighting at catch weights. Fight at a weight division or go fuck your mother, that's what I always say (even when it doesn't apply).Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterLike Floyd and Canelo. Pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflickeryes and the catch weight... ugh pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Strange days these. You have what really is a paper champion recognized by even the Ring as the best middleweight in the world even though he has not fought a middleweight since Martinez a year ago. Not only that, it appears that he actually has no intention on fighting another middleweight period. He then signs a reported 50 million dollar 3 fight deal with Espn.
Down the street stands the Kazak who barely gets into 7 figures for a fight. Not only has he destroyed every man he’s faced but he’s tried desperately for the last 3 years to unify with all the other “champions” to no avail. In the process of waiting on all these frauds he has blitzed the field. One of these pretenders refused 2 million to fight a guy with a pulse dropping his tin in the process to then find himself fighting for the same belt for less money with a man that can change the outcome with one shot.
Why didn’t Jacobs pick up the phone? He’s in a mandatory position for the real champion and could have easily got the fight. See, not even the guys mandatory challengers want to fight him. I hope Lee knocks Kid Ovaltine out on cable and 5 million people get to watch because at least Andy will sack up to the plate. Unfortunately his handlers won’t want it for at least a year or more. Next is Lemieux vs Ndam and lets hope David wins the other paper weight because he would also buck up and I think Oscar might agree also. Cotto is on the clock whether he signed a big deal or not and lets face it, he does not need the belt. They never signed him because he was one of the pretend title holders. The Kazak is his next fight after his optional so he will only get away with defending against a welter once.
There is no way he wiggles his way out of fighting the beast from the east after the way he stiffed the Wbc's native son. He will vacate the belt. This move also effectively kills any fight with Alvarez since Hbo has him under lock and key.
The OP just thinks very highly of GGG and thus wants to see him step up to the next weight class. He feels less highly of Ward because he doesn't call for him to step up to the next weight class, even though he has been at the top longer than GGG.