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How long will the sanctioning bodies, other promoters, networks and fans accept his schtick?!?!
How long??
Dong King, while he ripped fighter off, made fights. Arum made fights. Haymon? He has made more money off of not making fights. And, as a result of him not wanting to make fights, he does not give the public what they want to see!!
Al Haymon is god's gift to boxing.
I don't think we have the full story on Hayman yet. Sometimes I get the impression he's too smart, too slick, and too connected. Other times, like this last weekend and this coming Friday, I think he's just what boxing needs.
His name also reminds me Sammy Davis Jr. Hayman, hey man, say man. Say man, ya got a lite? Hey man, ya got a quarter? I hear his name and I want to grab my wallet! Know what I mean?
He is the modern day Don King.
I don't think so!Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09
He's going to have a world of aggravation trying to keep 170 fighters busy.
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Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Exactly. At least for the short haul we may be in for a treat for 2 or 3 years. Best not throw the baby out with the bath water.
Got to disagree, he seems to look after his fighters pretty well and they all seem very happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09
sorry but what is coming this Friday, my work schedule changed and I lost track. I'm working Friday eve so if something big is happening I may need to talk to Al about rescheduling.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
3.4 million people watched his fight this past Saturday and it didn't cost a penny to watch cause it was on free tv.
What a scumbag!
Good, it had a decent share. When I looked it up it hadn't been announced yet. .Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I believe I read that it's the highest rated boxing telecast since De La Hoya fought in 1998.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusGood, it had a decent share. When I looked it up it hadn't been announced yet. .Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I wouldn't worry about him, I'm thinking he is an excellent delegator. I wonder what he concentrates on, venues or putting the fights together.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Exactly. At least for the short haul we may be in for a treat for 2 or 3 years. Best not throw the baby out with the bath water.
Unrelenting stress in every way, everyday to keep the monster he's created moving forward. I would not want that job.
He's probably one of those guys that loves it.
Berto vs Lopez on Spike TV, the 13th. Ch 241 on DirecTV!Quote:
Originally Posted by walrussorry but what is coming this Friday, my work schedule changed and I lost track. I'm working Friday eve so if something big is happening I may need to talk to Al about rescheduling.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
That's right, forgot it was Friday, perhaps I'll get home in time to see some of it. Lopez is the kinda guy you always wanna see win but have your doubts. I'm interested to see if Her to still has any future in the ring. Haymon is making the first move in getting boxing mainstream and opening his pocket book to do so, can't say he's all bad.
Hay mon! (w/jamaican accent)
Haymon has no choice but to give the public what it wants now. If he doesn't attract eyeballs his boxing business will go down the toilet. It's definitely going to be interesting for the next couple of years.
The Heavy Bag » Al Haymon, Enemy Of The Sport An old read but still interesting and where there is smoke there is fire.
Al is bringing free boxing on TV be happy and not skeptical.
I think like others have stated we have to wait and see. Sure he wasn't eager to make big fights when everyone could get paid for nothing. But he put it all on the line, if he doesn't keep getting ratings he's in trouble. How do you get ratings, you give people what they want to see.
I think he was ultra conservative while he prepared his real plan and now things will change. At least I hope so. He has multiple cards put together that I am looking forward to and I'm not paying for them. I like both aspects to that.
I think hes planning to turn boxing into UFC. He will have a huge stable of boxers with a lot of champs. If you want to fight one you have to sign up with him. Hopefully he will make the best fight the best and a few losses wont mean the end of your career. I think it would be good for boxing in the long term
Everyone is going to have their negatives but with Haymon what I have seen so far is that his fighters are getting paid a bigger % of the gross, and he's actually investing money into growing the sport. Boxing has been sucked dry by greedy scumbags who just moved from PPV to PPV like a travelling carnival, putting on garbage fights and not giving a shit about the sport as long as their bottom line was fine. At least Haymon is making moves and trying to increase the mainstream presence of boxing to what it once was.
Can't I have any fun?Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
All I want is good match ups that hopefully lead to good fights. The debut, on paper at least, had all the potential to deliver. One was a bust..one was entertaining. It was on 'free' tv and you cannot beat that but he is not some messiah as boxing and many of his fighters came up on already easy to access ESPN, Unimas, Fox, etc. Its clear why he has stockpiled so many guys who run the gamut from superstars to ones on the otherside. His next card looks more stacked for favorite Porter as Garcia was lucky to get nod v Prescott and can't be missed. Berto v Lopez is between two used up guys and one where he can push the winner in role as opponent no matter who it is. PPV has been loaded dice for decades now and wins only win you pay. We'll see how it plays out. Its more exposure and generates interest in the sport. That has to be a win in the big picture.
I guess we all can't have our cake and eat it too. Sighs... we will never have the perfect promoter. Haymon is playing the future, and has probably done more to bring casual fans back into boxing than Arum/King/Kushner/Goosen combined.
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I read he serves as promoter and as manager for some fighters? I vaguely recall reading the was prohibited in boxing. If it's true for his new start-up, I wonder how long he will go until the Fed's shut him down? I couldn't even find a company website??? I think the dude is suspect. I foresee some slick more to get out after a buildup.
Haymon's report card:
Fights scheduled A-
Fight results A-
Not Haymon's fault that Molina delivered such a subpar performance. Broner isn't very swift of foot, so he was there to be had. Good win for Broner, so-so performance for fight fans.
Thurman delivered & showed how limited Guererro's skill set is, yet Ghost managed to get some shots in. Final fight saved the first telecast.
Bika not worthy of a title shot- but I figured he would help to deliver a fan-friendly bout; He did. Stevenson gave the viewers a couple of knockdowns and even tired enuff to let Bika land some solid shots. I enjoyed the fight.
Garcia & Peterson along with Quillen & Lee are fights definately not PPV warranted. But free tv? Oh, yeah. For sports fans like me who likes American Football -(season not in yet) what a refreshing sight to see boxing scheduled in advance.
Haymon's BS, is now turnining to Haymon's Brilliant Shows!
Quillen wins a technical fight UD.
Garcia vs Peterson I can't say. Garcia should win, but he isnt a sweet sciene fighter or a high volume puncher- those 2 styles can beat Lamont.
But if Danny isnt using angles, footwork, sturdy and steady dose of jabs- but instead is relying on power: I think it makes for an interesting fight.
AmenQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I agree, with the exception of the Stevenson/Bika fight. Haymon is delivering excellent cards and I hope they continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Tonight is a mess with 2 champions not fighting for their titles or in their division. And only Lee fighting for the title tonight. But I have to say both fights intrigue me. Hell, even more than that I'm interested in the Erroll Spence fight. Is that on NBCSports before the NBC card?
Arum has been killing fights you shit-eating dwarf;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Fuck is wrong with you?
Bob has been robbing your national hero blind and feeding you crap fights and you point your tiny little finger at Haymon.
So Typical.
Yeah, Haymon did his part- and now its the fighters, not promoters not living up to expectation. Good thing is the casual fan doesn't know who Quillen is, let alone what is the difference between WBC, IBF, WBA, WBO.... Then add on IBO, NABF, interim champs, diamond belt champs. LOL! Then all the weight classes, catchweights...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
New fans just wanna see action, so maybe they wont take it as hard as us die-hard fans.