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Answer: NOTHING.
Marciano was NOT a virtual 1-armed fighter as Frazier was. Rocky had dyn-O-mite in each fist. Frazier threw no more than 10 right hands the whole night on March 8, 1971 and STILL pounded Ali to a pulp by the end of the fight. Rocky Marciano would have bludgeoned ali with BOTH fists.
Marciano hit a little harder too. So if Frazier was able to beat ali, knock him down, then:
Rocky Marciano KO over Muhammad ali, Round 9.
curly hair
20lbs
the answer is Mohammad Ali
Any fighter anwhere near the top during alis era, who ali fought, will always be remembered because of ali
A more ferocious attack
Joe Frazier wanted to literally destroy you.
4 losses
A son that boxed professionally.
Marciano was fortunate he fought when he did, everyone knows that. His record will always say he was an American heavyweight professional boxer who was undefeated 49-0.
He fought from 1947 to 1955, just under nine years. He didn't have any big physical advantages, he was just very determined and could punch with either hand.
Was he the greatest heavyweight ever? No! Would I like to see how he would do against today's heavyweights? No!
That record will always be 49-0 (43 KOs).
I say Rock the Hard Rock from Brockton knocks the hell out of Ali, he would NOT be in Ali's face like Frazier was---JOE FRAZIER LITERALLY ATE A DIET OF RIGHT HANDS AND LEFT HOOKS TO THE SKULL. Rocky was wilier than that. Fighting off the back foot. He would slip 75% of Ali's jabs and left hooks.
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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Afro hair, bigger lips and more than likely a bigger cock ;D;D;D
I Know One Thing,
They both floored Muhammad Ali, and beat him in bouts.
Frazier vs. Ali "I"
Marciano vs. Ali "Computer Fight"
That's A Fact Jack !!!
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Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Afro hair, bigger lips and more than likely a bigger cock ;D;D;D
Size doesn't matter that much for most women.
Marciano had stamina, he could go all night, every night. He was a go getter, an eager beaver, there was no job he couldn't lick.😜
I don't know about that, those Italians are known to be packingQuote:
Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
more than likely a bigger cock ;D;D;D
That's what women tell guys like you to make you feel better ;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
Well I have to say Beanflicker got that right.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI don't know about that, those Italians are known to be packingQuote:
Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
more than likely a bigger cock ;D;D;D
Trust @smashup and beingkoed to bring this post down to the level of sex. You are worse than Bill Paxton.
Brock take some medication. Fraizier was bigger, stronger, meaner than Rocky.
What did Frazier have that Marciano didn't?
How about fights against several elite fighters who weren't old men and who were also in or still close to their prime as opposed to shot has-beens?
To be fair though Marciano did have things that Frazier didn't, like mob intimidation and weak and old opposition.
Let's be honest, the ONLY reason a 185lb plodder like MArciano was a HW champ was because all sportsmen who were men at all were shot dead from fighting in the most extensive conflict in human history.
Marciano's era represents a major dip in competition level which only really occurs during major epidemics or wars.
Now Joe Frazier was right up there among the most useless boxers to ever make it big time but he was 210lbs, he would have decapitated Marciano imo. His chin failed dismally against what we would today call a SHW but against a blown up LHW like MArciano, how could he fail!
I respect Rocky for his achievements but common sense has to prevail here.
His 49-0 record featured not ONE, Not ONE SINGLE DECENT OPPONENT!
Joe Lewis was not a credible opponent? he was only 37 years old. George Foreman until he was 49. Larry Holmes for until he was 47. The Klitschkos are in their mid forties.please. Charles was not a credible opponent what are you smoking. Archie Moore and Roland la starza and don cockell were not credible opponents? Jersey Joe Walcott was not hit a credible opponent? Harry kid Matthews was not a credible opponent?
Joe Frazier
Did have a more competitive group of Challengers.
* Dave 'Ziggy' Zyglewicz
* Ron 'The Council Bluff's Butcher' Stander
'Credible'? YesQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
At their peak or even close? No
Shot? Often
Are you telling me that because Big George fought till 47 that it some how makes it the norm?
Heavyweights fight till older now, but it's not the 1940s anymore.
Tell your girl friend to stop lying to yaQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedQuote:
Originally Posted by smashupAfro hair, bigger lips and more t;Dhan likely a bigger cock ;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Size doesn't matter that much for most women.
Well I think Joe Louis was among Marciano's best opponents, despite his age.
But how was he any better (as he was when he fought Rocky) than some of the opponents Frazier fought, like Ali for instance?
Charles and that were good quality boxers but again, they were not HW's as we describe them today.
Frazier himself only boxed 17 times against real HW's and lost 4 times (2ce convincingly) and his record was riddled with bums also, but still I think he beat the somewhat better fighters and still I think he could beat MArciano.
Rocky could beat Frazier for all I know, it isn't so far apart really, this is just my tip.
They both boxed in cruiser bum eras- it's not their fault the time they were born in.
There they go. That's they one! That's they one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Classic scene, classic movie.
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Originally Posted by Max Power
What is it with you and this constant 'they are not HW's as we describe them today' spiel?
Serious question: Do you do this in other sports that you may engage in? Is Michael Jordon just shitty because he aint in the Lebron Era?
Wilt Chamberlin &Kareem Abdul Jabar may have been tall, but they were tall with 1970's food & technology?
Man, you're a riot. Serious, you are knowledgeable, to that I don't dispute. But your bias shows you're more of a fan of boxers, not a fan of boxing.
Really Slim, it's simply just a difficult concept for me to compare THIS...
http://worldinsport.com/wp-content/u...iano-louis.jpg
to THIS...
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...1_2049536c.jpg
LET ALONE to THIS...
http://static.boxrec.com/thumb/8/87/...-holmes_88.jpg
For me boxing started seriously with Mike Tyson and has continued ever since. I acknowledge previous eras as forerunners of the sport and in a historical sense, but seriously, if boxing was still that bad, nobody would watch it!
An Opponent He Really Hated,
Smokin' Joe really disliked a certain 'clown'.
Hmm, yes I think I can sympathise with Joe on that score.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom
The world has never had to witness such laricanism in boxing until the advent of Tyson Fury who seems to have finally eclipsed him.
It was great for popularising boxing though, can't take that away from the man.
A Boxing Gym in Philadelphia.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...8c0CnGRv662OOA
When you typed this: it's simply just a difficult concept for me to compare THIS...Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Once again, you've exposed your love for boxers over boxing. Rhetorical question: Why must you compare box(ers) in order to appreciate box(ing)?:confused:
I love guitar, but I'm not gonna get into the dumb spiel of someone telling me Jimi Hendrix is the best that ever lived.
He never did arpeggios, never did harmonic minor scales, mixolydian to dorian modes. Yet those who do that today, never created. Never figure out that feedback could be controlled. To this day their sounds come from digital sound processors-aka computer generated peddles. Jimi Created a masterpiece with a wah-wah peddle and volume....followers pefected this.
Put that back to boxing. & here is what you have: Wladimir & his era..aint created a damn punch. not a new set of footwork, jack, nanda zilch, douhnut. Bigger muscles, better vitamins dont make the inner being any more daring or warrior-like Intangibles wont come from vitamins or workout equipment anymore than a guitar player with 10 thousand dollars worth of equipment will ever pack the house of a Jimi Hendrix or Carlos Santana who captivate us not with super duper scales, but their soul placed into every note, every string thats bent.
John Sullivan, James Corbett ,Jack Johnson , Sam Langford, Benny Leonard Ray Robinson: them boys gave us the uppercut, overhand, jab, hook. Them boys created footwork..
Aint shit been created since then.
So why would I want to compare a creationist vs a perferctionist?
Simple, unless I am a fan of boxers, not boxing.
I partially take back my comment on your intellect. You're knowledageble, just not wise...yet.
Jimi Hendrix was the MAN. Hendrix would KTFO of Wladimir and Vitali in 2 rounds tops. Jimi Hendrix would WAH_WAH the shite out of Golove-butt in 3 rounds and he would REVERB the PISS out of Kovalev.
He would chop him down with the edge of his hand.
What hit you Wlad?
Wlad: A voodoo chile....
that's easy to answer, great opposition that WEREN'T past their prime, the fact that his 4 losses only come to two Hall of Famers says it all, the best win on his resume is against an undefeated loud mouthed GOAT, who went on to shock the world time and time again, while Marciano's greatest win is against an ancient broken down version of the only man who can really compete with Ali for GOAT status, apples and oranges really