Muhammad Ali technically LOST The Thrilla In Manila

At the close of a very trying ninth round, a visibly tired Ali went back to his corner, and told his trainer: "Man, this is the closest I've ever been to dying."

At the end of Round 10 Ali said to Angelo Dundee:
"He's too strong. I'm done. It's like Death." Dundee and Brown forcibly lifted Ali off his stool and shoved him out into the ring for Round 11. Guess what, that is a DQ. Frazier won right there.

"I'm through, Herb."
At the end of the 14th Round, on his stool, Ali nearly blacked out, then vehemently Ali ordered cornerman Herbert Muhammad to cut his gloves off, saying he was through, an order ignored by his trainer and seconds. Ali would later claim that this was the closest to dying he had ever been.

you just learnt that?

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By Jesus, no.

Bill Paxtom will be fuming if he sees this.

The 'Triple B' Theory,

I believe Mr. Brockton-Block-Bust is correct el mundo.

Once a 'fighter/clown' is lifted off his stool by his handlers, technically he is DQ'd.

The Professional is not be touched, once the 'Bell' sounding the Round begins.

We all know, that a 'Clown-is-on-his-Own' once the Bell rings.

My new record for Muhammad Ali will indicate a Loss by 'DQ' in 11 as of right now.

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At the close of a very trying ninth round, a visibly tired Ali went back to his corner, and told his trainer: "Man, this is the closest I've ever been to dying."

At the end of Round 10 Ali said to Angelo Dundee:
"He's too strong. I'm done. It's like Death." Dundee and Brown forcibly lifted Ali off his stool and shoved him out into the ring for Round 11. Guess what, that is a DQ. Frazier won right there.

"I'm through, Herb."
At the end of the 14th Round, on his stool, Ali nearly blacked out, then vehemently Ali ordered cornerman Herbert Muhammad to cut his gloves off, saying he was through, an order ignored by his trainer and seconds. Ali would later claim that this was the closest to dying he had ever been.

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You don't know shit about boxing.

That fight was simply not that close and I was a crazed Frazier fan. I watched it live when it happened and that fight had a lttle drama at the end and that was it. I've always wondered why it has been given the space it has. The scores were 166-160, 166-162 and 167-162 all for Ali and thats the fight I watched.

I feel a lot worse for Robinson in the Maxim fight

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At the close of a very trying ninth round, a visibly tired Ali went back to his corner, and told his trainer: "Man, this is the closest I've ever been to dying."

At the end of Round 10 Ali said to Angelo Dundee:
"He's too strong. I'm done. It's like Death." Dundee and Brown forcibly lifted Ali off his stool and shoved him out into the ring for Round 11. Guess what, that is a DQ. Frazier won right there.

"I'm through, Herb."
At the end of the 14th Round, on his stool, Ali nearly blacked out, then vehemently Ali ordered cornerman Herbert Muhammad to cut his gloves off, saying he was through, an order ignored by his trainer and seconds. Ali would later claim that this was the closest to dying he had ever been.

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You don't know shit about boxing.

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What a lovely individual you turned out to be. Meeting face to face would be such a charming and sophisticated experience for me. Could you suggest any good books for me to read? I mean real books, not books you might hallucinate exist.

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At the close of a very trying ninth round, a visibly tired Ali went back to his corner, and told his trainer: "Man, this is the closest I've ever been to dying."

At the end of Round 10 Ali said to Angelo Dundee:
"He's too strong. I'm done. It's like Death." Dundee and Brown forcibly lifted Ali off his stool and shoved him out into the ring for Round 11. Guess what, that is a DQ. Frazier won right there.

"I'm through, Herb."
At the end of the 14th Round, on his stool, Ali nearly blacked out, then vehemently Ali ordered cornerman Herbert Muhammad to cut his gloves off, saying he was through, an order ignored by his trainer and seconds. Ali would later claim that this was the closest to dying he had ever been.

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You don't know shit about boxing.

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What a lovely individual you turned out to be. Meeting face to face would be such a charming and sophisticated experience for me. Could you suggest any good books for me to read? I mean real books, not books you might hallucinate exist.

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try the quaran....that's my favorite fiction literary work.

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At the close of a very trying ninth round, a visibly tired Ali went back to his corner, and told his trainer: "Man, this is the closest I've ever been to dying."

At the end of Round 10 Ali said to Angelo Dundee:
"He's too strong. I'm done. It's like Death." Dundee and Brown forcibly lifted Ali off his stool and shoved him out into the ring for Round 11. Guess what, that is a DQ. Frazier won right there.

"I'm through, Herb."
At the end of the 14th Round, on his stool, Ali nearly blacked out, then vehemently Ali ordered cornerman Herbert Muhammad to cut his gloves off, saying he was through, an order ignored by his trainer and seconds. Ali would later claim that this was the closest to dying he had ever been.

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You don't know shit about boxing.

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What a lovely individual you turned out to be. Meeting face to face would be such a charming and sophisticated experience for me. Could you suggest any good books for me to read? I mean real books, not books you might hallucinate exist.

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try the quaran....that's my favorite fiction literary work.

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the "quaran"? :confused: Never heard of that book. I think you mean the "Qur 'an", and YES you've said something right (finally!), it IS a work of fiction.

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At the close of a very trying ninth round, a visibly tired Ali went back to his corner, and told his trainer: "Man, this is the closest I've ever been to dying."

At the end of Round 10 Ali said to Angelo Dundee:
"He's too strong. I'm done. It's like Death." Dundee and Brown forcibly lifted Ali off his stool and shoved him out into the ring for Round 11. Guess what, that is a DQ. Frazier won right there.

"I'm through, Herb."
At the end of the 14th Round, on his stool, Ali nearly blacked out, then vehemently Ali ordered cornerman Herbert Muhammad to cut his gloves off, saying he was through, an order ignored by his trainer and seconds. Ali would later claim that this was the closest to dying he had ever been.

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You don't know shit about boxing.

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What a lovely individual you turned out to be. Meeting face to face would be such a charming and sophisticated experience for me. Could you suggest any good books for me to read? I mean real books, not books you might hallucinate exist.

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try the quaran....that's my favorite fiction literary work.

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the "quaran"? :confused: Never heard of that book. I think you mean the "Qur 'an", and YES you've said something right (finally!), it IS a work of fiction.

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still waiting for you to say something right.
this thread says it all about you.

~ Correct Scorecards thru 14 Rounds ~
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* Referee - Carlos Padilla ..... 66-60 > {10-4-0 in Rounds}

* Judge - Larry Nadayag ...... 66-62 > {8-4-2 in Rounds}

* Judge - Alfredo Qutazon ... 67-62 > {8-3-3 in Rounds}

* Associated Press .............. 63-63 > {7-7-0 in Rounds}
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Rounds '5' and '10' were very close, and both could have easily been called 'Even'.

Muhammad Ali did come on in Round 11, but had 'help' from his corner in getting off the stool
at the beginning of the Round.

Grounds for 'Disqualification'.

Joe Frazier did come back strong during the first-half of Round 12, but started to fade over
the last-minute. Muhammad came on late to 'Even-Out' the Round,

Muhammad Ali had a solid Round 13, as Joe could hardly see and had an injured arm.

Muhammad Ali had a 'big' Round 14, as Joe was hampered by poor vision, and exhaustion.

Ali kicked Frazier's ass in 13 & 14. But the fight ended in 11/12 when Ali refused to go out at the bell and they pushed him into the ring.

FRAZIER KO 12

@corvette
@AdamGB (The Pointer-Outer of Hypocrisy that this forum so desperately needs to function properly)

We love you Adam. :-).

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Ali kicked Frazier's ass in 13 & 14. But the fight ended in 11/12 when Ali refused to go out at the bell and they pushed him into the ring.

FRAZIER KO 12

@corvette
@AdamGB (The Pointer-Outer of Hypocrisy that this forum so desperately needs to function properly)

We love you Adam. :-).

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'Triple B'

The boxing record archives have now been corrected.

The result is now registered {and certified} as a win for Joe Frazier by {W Disq. 11}

It will also show a {Loss} by L Disq. 11 for Muhammad Ali.

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Ali kicked Frazier's ass in 13 & 14. But the fight ended in 11/12 when Ali refused to go out at the bell and they pushed him into the ring.

FRAZIER KO 12

@corvette
@AdamGB (The Pointer-Outer of Hypocrisy that this forum so desperately needs to function properly)

We love you Adam. :-).

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What do you want?... ???
I can't be bothered to read this thread so please summarise the point you're trying to make to me? ???

~ End of Round 10 ~

Muhammad Ali had backed up into his own Corner, during the last session of Round 10.

Smokin' Joe poured it on, and slammed Muhammad with his 'heavy-arsenal' over the least
20-Secondss of the Round.

At the Bell ending Round 10, Muhammad turned and draped both of arms over the top
Rope-Strands while looking down at the floor {ready to puke his guts out}.

Smokin' Joe walked very briskly back to his Corner on the opposite side of the Ring.

10-Seconds later, Muhammad's handlers put in the corner-stool, and Muhammad turned
around and sat down.

While on his stool, Muhammad rested his arms on the middle Rope strands, and had the
look of defeat on his face.

After 30-Seconds of sitting on his stool, Muhammad was saying >
"No. I don't think that I can go." {While shaking his head}.

Angelo Dundee was telling Muhammad >
"He's ripping you apart. Do you want me to stop it."

Muhammad hesitates on his answer, as he is not sure of whether to continue of not. Then tells Angelo {while shaking his head}. >
"No, not yet."

10-Seconds before Round 11 is set to begin.

Referee - Zach Clayton says > "Seconds Out".

3-Seconds later > Smokin' Joe is standing up, and is ready to go.

Muhammad is still sitting on his stool.

With 1-Second until the Bell, Muhammad is still on his stool. Smokin' Joe is pumped and ready to attack.

At the 'Bell' starting Round 11, Smokin Joe comes out of his corner.

2-Seconds later > Muhammad is 'literally' helped off his stool by Angelo Dundee.

Smokin' Joe is at Center-Ring already, while Muhammad is just getting off his stool.

Had Bill Paxtom been the Referee > he would have Disqualified Muhammad Ali at
0:02 of Round 11, for getting assistance from a handler during an active Round.

Good points. But the post right before yours was a little feigning ignorance.

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~ End of Round 10 ~

Muhammad Ali had backed up into his own Corner, during the last session of Round 10.

Smokin' Joe poured it on, and slammed Muhammad with his 'heavy-arsenal' over the least
20-Secondss of the Round.

At the Bell ending Round 10, Muhammad turned and draped both of arms over the top
Rope-Strands while looking down at the floor {ready to puke his guts out}.

Smokin' Joe walked very briskly back to his Corner on the opposite side of the Ring.

10-Seconds later, Muhammad's handlers put in the corner-stool, and Muhammad turned
around and sat down.

While on his stool, Muhammad rested his arms on the middle Rope strands, and had the
look of defeat on his face.

After 30-Seconds, Muhammad was saying > "No, I can't go." while shaking his head.

Angelo Dundee was telling Muhammad > "He's ripping you apart Muhammad. Do you want
me to stop it."

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None of that means he 'technically lost'..

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~ End of Round 10 ~

Muhammad Ali had backed up into his own Corner, during the last session of Round 10.

Smokin' Joe poured it on, and slammed Muhammad with his 'heavy-arsenal' over the least
20-Secondss of the Round.

At the Bell ending Round 10, Muhammad turned and draped both of arms over the top
Rope-Strands while looking down at the floor {ready to puke his guts out}.

Smokin' Joe walked very briskly back to his Corner on the opposite side of the Ring.

10-Seconds later, Muhammad's handlers put in the corner-stool, and Muhammad turned
around and sat down.

While on his stool, Muhammad rested his arms on the middle Rope strands, and had the
look of defeat on his face.

After 30-Seconds, Muhammad was saying > "No, I can't go." while shaking his head.

Angelo Dundee was telling Muhammad > "He's ripping you apart Muhammad. Do you want
me to stop it."

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None of that means he 'technically lost'..

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~ End of Round 10 ~

Muhammad Ali had backed up into his own Corner, during the last session of Round 10.

Smokin' Joe poured it on, and slammed Muhammad with his 'heavy-arsenal' over the least
20-Secondss of the Round.

At the Bell ending Round 10, Muhammad turned and draped both of arms over the top
Rope-Strands while looking down at the floor {ready to puke his guts out}.

Smokin' Joe walked very briskly back to his Corner on the opposite side of the Ring.

10-Seconds later, Muhammad's handlers put in the corner-stool, and Muhammad turned
around and sat down.

While on his stool, Muhammad rested his arms on the middle Rope strands, and had the
look of defeat on his face.

After 30-Seconds, Muhammad was saying > "No, I can't go." while shaking his head.

Angelo Dundee was telling Muhammad > "He's ripping you apart Muhammad. Do you want
me to stop it."

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That's my reaction when I saw the title of this thread.

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~ End of Round 10 ~

Muhammad Ali had backed up into his own Corner, during the last session of Round 10.

Smokin' Joe poured it on, and slammed Muhammad with his 'heavy-arsenal' over the least
20-Secondss of the Round.

At the Bell ending Round 10, Muhammad turned and draped both of arms over the top
Rope-Strands while looking down at the floor {ready to puke his guts out}.

Smokin' Joe walked very briskly back to his Corner on the opposite side of the Ring.

10-Seconds later, Muhammad's handlers put in the corner-stool, and Muhammad turned
around and sat down.

While on his stool, Muhammad rested his arms on the middle Rope strands, and had the
look of defeat on his face.

After 30-Seconds, Muhammad was saying > "No, I can't go." while shaking his head.

Angelo Dundee was telling Muhammad > "He's ripping you apart Muhammad. Do you want
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Lil' Corvette
Read about ali and got upset
he bought a lil' pet:
it was a parrot
he fed it a carrot--- "Sucky-sucky duck-duck Duck!" he taught it good.

1. So Ali lost to Frazier.
2. Mayweather lost to Judah.
3. Tyson lost to Savarese
4. Mosley lost to Oscar in rematch
5. Roy Jones and Holyfield should have won gold.


You gotta love boxing and controversies.

I forget which documentary mentioned this. Some famous person @ ringside heard Ali said cut the gloves off. To which he ran to Frazier's corner to say Ali quits. But by the time he got there, Frazier's trainer stopped it (simultanesouly) as Ali tried to.

Side note- there are a few trainers who sometimes will (lift) their fighters up from the stool- I can't remember at this time- maybe someone else does? Seems a technical nuance to be able to lift a fighter from their stool & nudging, or kicking in the butt- get your arse out their & fight son! Oh- DQ!! DQ!!

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~ End of Round 10 ~

Muhammad Ali had backed up into his own Corner, during the last session of Round 10.

Smokin' Joe poured it on, and slammed Muhammad with his 'heavy-arsenal' over the last
20-Seconds of the Round.

At the Bell ending Round 10, Muhammad turned and draped both of arms over the top
Rope-Strands while looking down at the floor {ready to puke his guts out}.

Smokin' Joe walked very briskly back to his Corner on the opposite side of the Ring.

10-Seconds later, Muhammad's handlers put in the corner-stool, and Muhammad turned
around and sat down.

While on his stool, Muhammad rested his arms on the middle Rope strands, and had the
look of defeat on his face.

After 30-Seconds of sitting on his stool, Muhammad was saying >
"No. I don't think that I can go." {While shaking his head}.

Angelo Dundee was telling Muhammad >
"He's ripping you apart. Do you want me to stop it."

Muhammad hesitates on his answer, as he is not sure of whether to continue of not. Then tells Angelo {while shaking his head}. >
"No, not yet."

10-Seconds before Round 11 is set to begin.

Referee - Zach Clayton says > "Seconds Out".

3-Seconds later > Smokin' Joe is standing up, and is ready to go.

Muhammad is still sitting on his stool.

With 1-Second until the Bell, Muhammad is still on his stool. Smokin' Joe is pumped and ready to attack.

At the 'Bell' starting Round 11, Smokin Joe comes out of his corner.

2-Seconds later > Muhammad is 'literally' helped off his stool by Angelo Dundee.

Smokin' Joe is at Center-Ring already, while Muhammad is just getting off his stool.

Had Bill Paxtom been the Referee > he would have Disqualified Muhammad Ali at
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This ^ is legend.

there are times when @Bill Paxtom hits the 'nail' on the ~HEAD~, and this '"'time'"' he really hit the bull's eye.

If you have to resort to quoting yourself and then using bold or CAPITALS to make a point, then I think you are probably much closer to BS than a bullseye.


Look at what he could have won ;)

Leave Bill alone, he is not harming you or any posters here. YOu act like a bully but I bet in real life you aint nothin like a bully.

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Leave Bill alone, he is not harming you or any posters here. YOu act like a bully but I bet in real life you aint nothin like a bully.

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"Triple B"

Greenbeanz means no harm.

He still lives in his Mother's home,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, in the basement.

I bet his Mama still washes his dirty socks too.

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Leave Bill alone, he is not harming you or any posters here. YOu act like a bully but I bet in real life you aint nothin like a bully.

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Yes I know :-\, like I said

"Look at what he could have won"

http://www.thefootballramble.com/ima...k_-item_2.jpeg

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"Triple B"

Greenbeanz means no harm.

He still lives in his Mother's home,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, in the basement.

I bet his Mama still washes his dirty socks too.

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wait, Bill, you're a little 'off' on that one----he can't ~afford~ socks.

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"Triple B"

Greenbeanz means no harm.

He still lives in his Mother's home,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, in the basement.

I bet his Mama still washes his dirty socks too.

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wait, Bill, you're a little 'off' on that one----he can't ~afford~ socks.

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"Triple B"

You mean ............. Greenbeanz is ............... Light in the Loafers.

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"Triple B"

Greenbeanz means no harm.

He still lives in his Mother's home,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, in the basement.

I bet his Mama still washes his dirty socks too.

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wait, Bill, you're a little 'off' on that one----he can't ~afford~ socks.

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"Triple B"

You mean ............. Greenbeanz is ............... Light in the Loafers.

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You made me spit out my vegetable stew in laughter.

Technically this is a stupid thread.

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Well then,

Britt Ekland says > "I can't believe what you just posted Master."

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...3TUpOnXjFVT5jw

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Britt Ekland says > "I can't believe what you just posted Master."

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...3TUpOnXjFVT5jw

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@Master has now been "shell-shocked" TWICE. :cool: and he is speechless ;)

The Internet is a fantastic tool and threads like this are a prime reason why. Good stuff, Brockton.

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thanks mate but Bill gets the 'credit' for this.

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I agree, showing pictures of Brit are cool.