Andy Lee vs. Peter Quillin Now a Non-Title Bout - Boxing News
How shit is that? Will eke be able to keep the title if he loses?
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Andy Lee vs. Peter Quillin Now a Non-Title Bout - Boxing News
How shit is that? Will eke be able to keep the title if he loses?
Very disappointing
I've read he will keep the title. So only good thing is,the fight is happening with Saunders.
Quillin is a bitch!
Ok. After a few years defending Quillin...I'm done. Pete you're on the shit list and frankly son, I hope Lee beats you. Zero excuse for that after long layoff. Effectively he has walked away from two championships. Enough
What sort of wanker is Quillen? Surely he should be fined , it seems like that's the only thing that would hurt him. After all, he's clearly not interested in being a World Champion.
This is getting ridiculous now. First, you've got the joke of Garcia v Peterson at catch weight, now this is a non title fight. What is the fucking point of these fights?
There are 2 people delighted about this. Lee because no matter what happens , he's still the champ and that means another big pay day against Saunders, who doesn't have to fight Quillen in the States for less money. And Saunders accepted step aside money I believe. You couldn't make it up!
Quillen's been hanging around JCC Jr. too long!!
Now he's acting just like that low-life dumbass.
:vd: Do we need any more proof that he was unfit to wear that title anyway. I cant get on him too much because at least he relinquished the title before. He could do the same now but that kind of puts andy lee out of a pay check too. While a pound and a half is not grossly overweight why do i get the feeling this was a "eff it... if you make you make it" conversation between Quillen and Haymon...
Exactly. He's already a defacto champion in his mind since he never lost his belt in the ring. So Haymon says do whatever gives you the best chance to win impressively and I'll have another date lined up right away.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
I hope Lee gets well compensated, he should have threatened to pull out :D
Haymon will just have to change the series name if the manipulation and hoodwink keeps up.
No championship matches here :author: Lets face it, this series is hitting and introducing would be and new fans and people somewhat unsullied and free of cynicism years of following this circus can bring. Not taking long at all to bring them into the fold of its political maneuvering and bullshit factor. Well done.
It's hard to understand WTF is going on in Quillin's mind. He keeps making stupid mistakes/decisions.
It's hard for me to believe Haymon would have anything to do with these antics, as someone suggested.
In my opinion, Haymon is about excellence not boneheaded mistakes.
I shouldn't have spoken on Quillen without all the facts. I thought he didn't really try to make weight but he did come back for a 2nd measurement and came significantly closer. So he did try. I was wrong and should not speak out of turn like that.
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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Right there Ron is what you should never do.
Quillen has been mismanaged since he changed promoters and has been used as a pawn for political/business/personal reasons.
Relinquishing his title and not being active has led to him not making weight.
What a prat for wasting his prime years.
Havent fighters been stripped of titles if they lose even in a none title bout like this in the past?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
If Lee does get to keep the title even if he loses then Quillin has done him a financial favour really because he gets another decent payday to defend against Saunders.
I gave up on him when he ducked Korobov. Should not have done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Although Andy Lee can't lose the title, I always think that you can't take the result of a fight with a guy who didn't make weight at face value. If Quillin wins, there's always the doubt that he has taken less out of himself by not making the weight than the champ has in order to make the weight. If the champ wins, then the victory is slightly tarnished because the opponent had to take so much off to even try and make weight that he lost a lot of his strength. All in all, not a good build up to the fight.
Very disappointed to hear this. I'm big on kid chocolate, still looking forward to the festivities tonight but no excuse for quill.
Since I don't know you I can only assume you are joking or a fan of someone that is put in soft and I'm calling for him to sack up. Which is it, are you a fan of guys that are put in soft or clever?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Right there Ron is what you should never do.
I was thinking of renewing my boxnation subscription to record and then watch this tomorrow morning as though live. Now I think I will save my twenty quid for Floyd/Manny.
It is 12 quid now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Surely if Lee wins he gets the title otherwise its a crock Quillen must forfeit the belt
Yeah but £8 registration even though I would actually be re-subscribing. It's nicer to watch fights on the telly even if it is the next morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt is 12 quid now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
On virgin I am sure you pay no subscription fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzYeah but £8 registration even though I would actually be re-subscribing. It's nicer to watch fights on the telly even if it is the next morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt is 12 quid now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Quillen stays in the shadows. Maybe that is where he belongs.
I don't think he ducked Korobov but let his strings be pulled by Haymon. But it did not look good at all. Still this growing attitude of "Meh, weight limit whatever" just kills me. I def think guys...groomed and steered would be stars...blow weight just looking at the next showcase opportunity. Its not like they arrive at the scales on 1 days notice ffs??? Quillin had a year to plan, practice and come in on weight. Guys with "a future" just throw money at the fine knowing the bigger payoff is ahead with a top notch performance. They...managers...can afford it. Its a terrible trend now with guys getting a promotional push.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI gave up on him when he ducked Korobov. Should not have done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Honestly if a guy does not make weight, I don't think a win should be factor in rankings at all.
Agreed because weight can dictate winning or losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI don't think he ducked Korobov but let his strings be pulled by Haymon. But it did not look good at all. Still this growing attitude of "Meh, weight limit whatever" just kills me. I def think guys...groomed and steered would be stars...blow weight just looking at the next showcase opportunity. Its not like they arrive at the scales on 1 days notice ffs??? Quillin had a year to plan, practice and come in on weight. Guys with "a future" just throw money at the fine knowing the bigger payoff is ahead with a top notch performance. They...managers...can afford it. Its a terrible trend now with guys getting a promotional push.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI gave up on him when he ducked Korobov. Should not have done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Honestly if a guy does not make weight, I don't think a win should be factor in rankings at all.
If a guy feels doing the work at the last minute will cost him in effectiveness, clearly he does. That's on him and obvious lack of preparedness and professionalism. If a fighter can not-will not make weight...move up. God knows we have enough divisions already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonAgreed because weight can dictate winning or losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI don't think he ducked Korobov but let his strings be pulled by Haymon. But it did not look good at all. Still this growing attitude of "Meh, weight limit whatever" just kills me. I def think guys...groomed and steered would be stars...blow weight just looking at the next showcase opportunity. Its not like they arrive at the scales on 1 days notice ffs??? Quillin had a year to plan, practice and come in on weight. Guys with "a future" just throw money at the fine knowing the bigger payoff is ahead with a top notch performance. They...managers...can afford it. Its a terrible trend now with guys getting a promotional push.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI gave up on him when he ducked Korobov. Should not have done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Honestly if a guy does not make weight, I don't think a win should be factor in rankings at all.
The fines need to be more hefty :mad: 50% of the fighters purse would start to sting :cool:
Not sure if it has been mentioned but the purses are surprising. Not sure how Haymon does this.
1.5 for Garcia
1.2 for Peterson
500k for Lee
500k for Quillen
And if Peterson loses he will lose his title.
I'm surprised Peterson is making more than Quillen and LeeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
The intro music :cwm13: This one feels like early fireworks, place is packed!
Great shot from Quillin :cool:
Sh-t Lee looked fooked at the bell :D
Very measured aggressive Quillin.
Bell, what bell :-X
Evening everybody. I've got Quillin/Garcia. And the Quillin pick is looking pretty good. Lee nearly did an Enzo at the end of that round.
This fight would be over in the UK Lee was badly hurt.
They fight like amateurs. Very bad feet.