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Ward-Smith Tops First Card of Roc Nation/BET Deal - Boxing News
Glad Smith will get a decent payday and the opportunity to fight p4p one of the best fighters around. Win, lose or draw theres no shame in this fight. A massive underdog no doubt, but if theres any time for Smith to fight Ward its now. He wont win, but you know he will try his hardest and I could have thought or worse opponents for Wards return.
It will be the single greatest moment in world boxing history ever if Paul Smith beats Andre Ward
No wonder HBO gave Ward the elbow.
Tyson/Douglas level upset.
Good to see that ward finally has a fight set
All those contenders who win to earn title shots take note, just lose and you keep getting shots.
Hopefully Paul Smith will receive a good payday from this fight.
It's on BET in the States. And the fight is going to be part of an "event" featuring a live rap concert.
Ward-Smith Tops First Card of Roc Nation/BET Deal - Boxing News
I can't wait.
Andre Wards comeback fight Smith should provide a bit of a test,! can't see Smith going the distance
a good pay day for Paul, his chance of beating Ward there's more chance of me finding chickens teeth in
the back garden.
Since when is this is a title fight???????Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
It's for the WBA Super World title that Ward still holds.Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteSince when is this is a title fight???????Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Always a little weary about a program trying to be everything. Remember KO Nation on hbo with live hip hop...whew ;D. That was scattered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
The article is off with being BETs first pro boxing. Bernard Hopkins was doing main events with Butch Lewis on BET before he ever set foot on hbo, 91 92? They did "Ballroom boxing" and club shows for a few years also. Pretty fair to get the rust off fight for Ward.
Smith has done well for himself and I am glad for him.
Smith was stopped by De Gale and Groves when they were inexperienced and I never thought he would get to this level. He has taken his opportunity and all credit to him.
Good luck.
I miss 10 round non title fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronDanLawIt's for the WBA Super World title that Ward still holds.Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteSince when is this is a title fight???????Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
That's how boxing works. If you show for one fight that you can hang with a contender, you get a few more good fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
He was on the contender. Maybe its that past exposure to the US audience.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherThat's how boxing works. If you show for one fight that you can hang with a contender, you get a few more good fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
I'm pleased for Paul Smith that he's got this payday, and I think it'll be his last fight. As for Ward, ok he's been out the ring a long time, don't take too big a risk, but why did he talk about GGG and Froch, and why is the Smith fight not for the title? It's not the governing body's fault he's been out of the ring so long, and it's not the Fan's fault either.
And the new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;D;D;D
Why not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I haven't seen Ward fight in a long time but he is one of my least favorite fighters to watch. His style is cheap holding. He should be deducted at least 2 points in all his fights. Hit and hold, hit and hold.
Because GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWhy not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.
It wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWhy not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.
Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$
Well that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIt wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWhy not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.
Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.
What this guy said..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIt wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWhy not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.
Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$
Strong cases drag out all the time in the real world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIt wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWhy not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.
Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.
GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.
Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha
Link??Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteStrong cases drag out all the time in the real world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIt wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWhy not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.
Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.
GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.
Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha
and then , when I've seen the link, we'll discuss who you think would win if Chavez fought Paul Smith? "hahahahahahahaha" smh.
Chavez Jr would whip everybody on lil GG's resume....;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraLink??Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteStrong cases drag out all the time in the real world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIt wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWhy not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.
Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.
GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.
Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha
and then , when I've seen the link, we'll discuss who you think would win if Chavez fought Paul Smith? "hahahahahahahaha" smh.
Yet again, that doesn't really answer the question, you're good at that , well done.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteChavez Jr would whip everybody on lil GG's resume....;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraLink??Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteStrong cases drag out all the time in the real world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIt wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWhy not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.
Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.
GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.
Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha
and then , when I've seen the link, we'll discuss who you think would win if Chavez fought Paul Smith? "hahahahahahahaha" smh.
but going on from that, if Chavez "would whip everybody on lil GG's resume," then surely by your way of thinking (Warped!), it wouldn't be a bad fight for him?
wait...........what's that noise? oh it's the sound of you shooting yourself in the foot!!!;D;D;D;D;D;D;D;D;D
Smith would be a good fight for Chavez Jr coming of a KO loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYet again, that doesn't really answer the question, you're good at that , well done.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteTo answer your questi Jr would whip everybody on lil GG's resume....;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraLink??Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteStrong cases drag out all the time in the real world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIt wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWhy not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.
Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.
GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.
Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha
and then , when I've seen the link, we'll discuss who you think would win if Chavez fought Paul Smith? "hahahahahahahaha" smh.
but going on from that, if Chavez "would whip everybody on lil GG's resume," then surely by your way of thinking (Warped!), it wouldn't be a bad fight for him?
wait...........what's that noise? oh it's the sound of you shooting yourself in the foot!!!;D;D;D;D;D;D;D;D;D
He's a tune-up level guy....just like those guys on Golovkin's resume.
You've gone off on a big tangent there Numb nuts! is Smith a good fight for your superhero, bearing in mind he said he wouldn't need a tune up, he could straight in with one of the top guys!Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteSmith would be a good fight for Chavez Jr coming of a KO loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYet again, that doesn't really answer the question, you're good at that , well done.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteTo answer your questi Jr would whip everybody on lil GG's resume....;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraLink??Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteStrong cases drag out all the time in the real world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIt wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWhy not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.
Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.
GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.
Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha
and then , when I've seen the link, we'll discuss who you think would win if Chavez fought Paul Smith? "hahahahahahahaha" smh.
but going on from that, if Chavez "would whip everybody on lil GG's resume," then surely by your way of thinking (Warped!), it wouldn't be a bad fight for him?
wait...........what's that noise? oh it's the sound of you shooting yourself in the foot!!!;D;D;D;D;D;D;D;D;D
He's a tune-up level guy....just like those guys on Golovkin's resume.
I'll Spell it out cos I know you struggle:
if Chavez is better than Smith, then GGG is trying to line up better opponents than your mate Ward. Does that Mean GGG has more Balls than Ward? Does it Mean Ward doubts his ability? Because Ward called out Froch and GGG , and is now fighting Paul Smith, does that mean Ward is Scared?
in my world , the answers are all NO, but by your way of thinking it's a different story.
Still waiting for the Link from about 10 posts ago btw .
Now you'll probably go all silent on me until another thread comes up you can troll. ;)
Well we both know GGG doesn't have more balls than Ward...that we already know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYou've gone off on a big tangent there Numb nuts! is Smith a good fight for your superhero, bearing in mind he said he wouldn't need a tune up, he could straight in with one of the top guys!Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteSmith would be a good fight for Chavez Jr coming of a KO loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYet again, that doesn't really answer the question, you're good at that , well done.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteTo answer your questi Jr would whip everybody on lil GG's resume....;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraLink??Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteStrong cases drag out all the time in the real world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIt wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWhy not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.
Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.
GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.
Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha
and then , when I've seen the link, we'll discuss who you think would win if Chavez fought Paul Smith? "hahahahahahahaha" smh.
but going on from that, if Chavez "would whip everybody on lil GG's resume," then surely by your way of thinking (Warped!), it wouldn't be a bad fight for him?
wait...........what's that noise? oh it's the sound of you shooting yourself in the foot!!!;D
He's a tune-up level guy....just like those guys on Golovkin's resume.
I'll Spell it out cos I know you struggle:
if Chavez is better than Smith, then GGG is trying to line up better opponents than your mate Ward. Does that Mean GGG has more Balls than Ward? Does it Mean Ward doubts his ability? Because Ward called out Froch and GGG , and is now fighting Paul Smith, does that mean Ward is Scared?
in my world , the answers are all NO, but by your way of thinking it's a different story.
Still waiting for the Link from about 10 posts ago btw .
Now you'll probably go all silent on me until another thread comes up you can troll. ;)
Sure Ward said he doesn't need a tuneup...but he does..that tuneup...Smith...is right on the level of lil GG's opponents.;D
GGG stands for Got Girly Gonads;D;D;D;D
Well according to you, the guy GGG Wants to fight is way above the level of Smith. ???Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWell we both know GGG doesn't have more balls than Ward...that we already know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYou've gone off on a big tangent there Numb nuts! is Smith a good fight for your superhero, bearing in mind he said he wouldn't need a tune up, he could straight in with one of the top guys!Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteSmith would be a good fight for Chavez Jr coming of a KO loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYet again, that doesn't really answer the question, you're good at that , well done.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteTo answer your questi Jr would whip everybody on lil GG's resume....;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraLink??Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteStrong cases drag out all the time in the real world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIt wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWhy not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.
Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.
GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.
Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha
and then , when I've seen the link, we'll discuss who you think would win if Chavez fought Paul Smith? "hahahahahahahaha" smh.
but going on from that, if Chavez "would whip everybody on lil GG's resume," then surely by your way of thinking (Warped!), it wouldn't be a bad fight for him?
wait...........what's that noise? oh it's the sound of you shooting yourself in the foot!!!;D
He's a tune-up level guy....just like those guys on Golovkin's resume.
I'll Spell it out cos I know you struggle:
if Chavez is better than Smith, then GGG is trying to line up better opponents than your mate Ward. Does that Mean GGG has more Balls than Ward? Does it Mean Ward doubts his ability? Because Ward called out Froch and GGG , and is now fighting Paul Smith, does that mean Ward is Scared?
in my world , the answers are all NO, but by your way of thinking it's a different story.
Still waiting for the Link from about 10 posts ago btw .
Now you'll probably go all silent on me until another thread comes up you can troll. ;)
Sure Ward said he doesn't need a tuneup...but he does..that tuneup...Smith...is right on the level of lil GG's opponents.;D
GGG stands for Got Girly Gonads;D;D;D;D
Where's that link btw. :rolleyes:
There is no link.
Also stop replying with quote!
Well if GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez after Fonfara, somewhere in this World there must be a link.
Not calling anyone a liar or anything.😜
Sorry about the quotes. :)
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Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell according to you, the guy GGG Wants to fight is way above the level of Smith. ???Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWell we both know GGG doesn't have more balls than Ward...that we already know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYou've gone off on a big tangent there Numb nuts! is Smith a good fight for your superhero, bearing in mind he said he wouldn't need a tune up, he could straight in with one of the top guys!Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteSmith would be a good fight for Chavez Jr coming of a KO loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYet again, that doesn't really answer the question, you're good at that , well done.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteTo answer your questi Jr would whip everybody on lil GG's resume....;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraLink??Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteStrong cases drag out all the time in the real world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWell that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIt wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteWhy not talk about GG and Froch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I thought the Smith fight was for the title.
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.
Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.
GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.
Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha
and then , when I've seen the link, we'll discuss who you think would win if Chavez fought Paul Smith? "hahahahahahahaha" smh.
but going on from that, if Chavez "would whip everybody on lil GG's resume," then surely by your way of thinking (Warped!), it wouldn't be a bad fight for him?
wait...........what's that noise? oh it's the sound of you shooting yourself in the foot!!!;D
He's a tune-up level guy....just like those guys on Golovkin's resume.
I'll Spell it out cos I know you struggle:
if Chavez is better than Smith, then GGG is trying to line up better opponents than your mate Ward. Does that Mean GGG has more Balls than Ward? Does it Mean Ward doubts his ability? Because Ward called out Froch and GGG , and is now fighting Paul Smith, does that mean Ward is Scared?
in my world , the answers are all NO, but by your way of thinking it's a different story.
Still waiting for the Link from about 10 posts ago btw .
Now you'll probably go all silent on me until another thread comes up you can troll. ;)
Sure Ward said he doesn't need a tuneup...but he does..that tuneup...Smith...is right on the level of lil GG's opponents.;D
GGG stands for Got Girly Gonads;D;D;D;D
Where's that link btw. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Master
I have not seen that link anywhere eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
and yeah can you stop with the quotes please :p
This is a welcome back fight for the SOG and ward will destroy him.
This fight is at a 172 pound catchweight :confused:
Really? f that.Quote:
Originally Posted by La Cucaracha
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Originally Posted by La Cucaracha
I was just about to say that but it took 20 minutes to scroll the page.
How can anyone defend this guy? He leaves on a catchweight fight against a no hoper and sits out 2 years on a bogus claim against a promoter that got him everything he wanted when the real reason he sat out was because he ran out of opponents at 68 cause it was soft and going through a transition. So instead of moving up to a much hotter division (like he said he may have to after the S6), him and a few friends and family had a game of scrabble and came up with excuse to go on strike.
Now that the world has forgotten a man they didn't know to begin with, his big splash after sitting out and signing with JayZ is to fight another extreme long shot and at the same catch that he went out on.
Its a shame that the word empirical did not come out in that scrabble game. Its also a shame to see the oldest Organization in the business make a mockery of itself. They need to take their tin off the slate or start selling them at Walmart.
Smith was actually an acceptable return fight in my eyes but this just dumps all over it.
Smith does not seem to be a big guy. If you can be pushed around by Abraham you are not big at the weight. Really Andre?Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1Really? f that.Quote:
Originally Posted by La Cucaracha
Corvette, you couldn't prove you weren't bullshitting by providing a link, so I'm gonna provide 2 links to prove you were bullshitting!
Chavez Jr. No Longer a Top Option for Team Golovkin - Boxing News
Golovkin Still Open to Mayweather, Froch and Ward - Boxing News
Game , set and match my furry friend. Now who you gonna talk crap about? ;D;D