just wondering. I know floyd will have PEDs in his hands, but is floyd getting tested as much?
What kinda PED cocktail does Alex have floyd on?
i hear floyd is also working with the guy who help jmm hulk out.
lol
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just wondering. I know floyd will have PEDs in his hands, but is floyd getting tested as much?
What kinda PED cocktail does Alex have floyd on?
i hear floyd is also working with the guy who help jmm hulk out.
lol
They have both been undergoing USADA random blood and urine testing. Maybe it's not comprehensive or totally effective, but you obviously don't care about that either way. A mod should just delete threads like this.
How the hell do you have PEDS in your hands?Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
Dumb ass midget.
corvette spoke, now we just need Ruthless Rocco then we can lock it upQuote:
Originally Posted by corvetteHow the hell do you have PEDS in your hands?Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
Dumb ass midget.
Pain medication is not a performance enhancer lol.
Not to mention Floyd hasn't used pain medication in his hands in over 8 years but yet again people don't care about the truth.
There are contradictory reports on that but you probably wouldn't care about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Keith Kizer would know. He's in charge of it all. If he takes it on fight night it would show in his post fight tests. It hasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusThere are contradictory reports on that but you probably wouldn't care about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
And beyond that he can take it in Vegas as long as he reports it, he doesn't because he doesn't use it anymore.
Show me someone that would know(not Bob Arum, not Roach-they are known constant liars. But someone involved that has seen the tests that would absolutely positively 100% show if he takes it) because all you have to do is type "Keith Kizer says Mayweathers hands are clean" into your search bar and you will hear from the guy that absolutely would know. You CAN NOT take pain injections in your hand on fight night and have it not show in a test. Please tell me if you are suggesting that you can have it not show so I can know you are trolling me. Or tell me if you think the commission is lying for Floyd because they have no reason to since it's allowed there so I again will know you are trolling me. Tell me what your theory is, why would Kizer who absolutely would know lie about something he has no reason to lie about?
Removing pain so an athlete can preform who otherwise would not, certainly is performance enhancing. In addition it gives them a sense of euphoria. The kind that Floyd has used is just not on the prohibited list in nevada.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Tell me more about this preforming of which you speak... @fan johnnyQuote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyRemoving pain so an athlete can preform who otherwise would not, certainly is performance enhancing. In addition it gives them a sense of euphoria. The kind that Floyd has used is just not on the prohibited list in nevada.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
floyd puts fast acting roid pellets up his bum for every fight
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
you sure? track athletes have been busted for taking medication for pain......also why is this pain medication only legal in nevada?
Great point, I'm using a cell phone with auto correct and don't see tiny letters all that well. I'm not going to ride the Mery-go-round with you on this dumb as subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoTell me more about this preforming of which you speak... @fan johnnyQuote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyRemoving pain so an athlete can preform who otherwise would not, certainly is performance enhancing. In addition it gives them a sense of euphoria. The kind that Floyd has used is just not on the prohibited list in nevada.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AAIQBcpHpSs
You are one dumb ass little Hobbit.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyRemoving pain so an athlete can preform who otherwise would not, certainly is performance enhancing. In addition it gives them a sense of euphoria. The kind that Floyd has used is just not on the prohibited list in nevada.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
First we have the obvious that the head of the Nevada Commission where it is perfectly legal saying he doesn't use the perfectly legal substance. There is absolutely no reason to lie. So logic dictates they wouldn't lie. So logic says he doesn't use it and hasn't used it for over 8 years.
Then we have visual evidence. How many times has Floyd said "I would have gone for the KO but I hurt my hand" umm, how do you hurt a numb hand? Of course if you don't believe his words because it could be just an excuse(as he uses the excuse when not engaged in fights) you can look at the Maidana fight where a man winced in pain over a man biting him through a glove. Okay, he could be hamming, probably was, but if his hand is numb he wouldn't even notice.
So logic says he doesn't numb his hands. And visual evidence says he doesn't numb his hands. But let's ignore logic and what we see because we don't like the story. That's boxing fandom in a nutshell. The coward who picks and chooses all his fights was forced to fight....wait I thought he picks, that makes no sense. The guy who numbs his hands seems to have sensitive hands, wait that makes no sense. But who cares about sense I don't like him
Dude your going through a lot of effort to defend Floyd's use of pain medication. I only pointed out that contrary to what others believe, that pain medication is in fact performance enhancing. I also pointed out he has used it, as HBO televised and that it's not on the prohibited list in nevada. This may or may not be current, I haven't checked. If he has used it in all his fight and is using it, I don't care.
Painkillers are a banned substance, but they are banned to protect the athlete using them because there is a serious risk of the athlete competing well above their threshold and causing serious injury to themselves. The biggest risk for a guy getting a hand injection is that if he suffers a hand injury, he'll be blissfully unaware and continue to punch hard with it, worsening the injury. And Floyd only fights in Nevada where it's legal, so he isn't breaking the rules.
So if you want to attack LEGAL "performance enhancers", why not shit on a guy for drinking protein shakes? Or taking vitamin supplements? Those are performance enhancers too.
I had to laugh at the Pac Tards all these years saying "how can Mayweather talk about Pac using steroids when he uses hand injections", like those two things are in the same fucking discussion... :rolleyes:
Isn't it? I would imagine in many instances it is and either way a pain killer is rather different to Vitamin C. Floyd numbs his hands as he cannot take the pain of natural hands. It is a performance enhancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Ok well like I said above, let's cut the semantics and call it a performance enhancer. It's still a LEGAL, UNBANNED substance. So how is it any different than taking a vitamin supplement or a protein shake? I don't understand why we're even having the conversation. It's not unbalancing the playing field: Floyd's opponents could have shot up their hands as well. If it's not against the rules, who cares?Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIsn't it? I would imagine in many instances it is and either way a pain killer is rather different to Vitamin C. Floyd numbs his hands as he cannot take the pain of natural hands. It is a performance enhancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Legal or illegal, so what? Cocaine is illegal, but Novacaine will be injected by a dentist. The difference is arbitrary. If a drug allows you to do something you otherwise couldn't do so effectively, then it has to be performance enhancing. What am I missing? Shouldn't drugs be banned from sports full stop if they affect performance? Floyd is a known user of performance enhancing drugs. It is what it is and there seems to be more evidence of that than what there is against Manny. I don't really care either way really, but Floyd isn't squeaky clean.
Washy terms like illegal and legal don't really make it okay to a rational person who wants to see a level playing field in boxing. Why should an opponent be allowed to take performance enhancing drugs? If he isn't able to cut it at the top, then he should find another day job. What next, legless boxers with robotic legs? After all, they should be allowed to compete like anyone else. I'm not convinced.
This proves you've never participated in any sport or any physical activity.;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIsn't it? I would imagine in many instances it is and either way a pain killer is rather different to Vitamin C. Floyd numbs his hands as he cannot take the pain of natural hands. It is a performance enhancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Fighters would rather feel the pain in their hands than nothing at all...that way they can tell if they damaged them....DUMMY
If a fighters hand is injured or broken..... HE WANTS TO KNOW IT.... right then and there...not until the gloves are taken off to reveal a career ending injury,like a bone sticking through his skin.
Wouldn't YOU want to know if you've wrecked your hands during a fight...or would you want them numbed so you can continue to ruin them???
Don't be a dumb little faggot all your sorry life.
Anyway,
It is illegal to use Xylocain before a fight.
If it were an enhancer you best believe Pactrash would use it 24/7.
you can't use xylocain before a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerOk well like I said above, let's cut the semantics and call it a performance enhancer. It's still a LEGAL, UNBANNED substance. So how is it any different than taking a vitamin supplement or a protein shake? I don't understand why we're even having the conversation. It's not unbalancing the playing field: Floyd's opponents could have shot up their hands as well. If it's not against the rules, who cares?Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIsn't it? I would imagine in many instances it is and either way a pain killer is rather different to Vitamin C. Floyd numbs his hands as he cannot take the pain of natural hands. It is a performance enhancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by corvetteThis proves you've never participated in any sport or any physical activity.;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIsn't it? I would imagine in many instances it is and either way a pain killer is rather different to Vitamin C. Floyd numbs his hands as he cannot take the pain of natural hands. It is a performance enhancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Fighters would rather feel the pain in their hands than nothing at all...that way they can tell if they damaged them....DUMMY
If a fighters hand is injured or broken..... HE WANTS TO KNOW IT.... right then and there...not until the gloves are taken off to reveal a career ending injury,like a bone sticking through his skin.
Wouldn't YOU want to know if you've wrecked your hands during a fight...or would you want them numbed so you can continue to ruin them???
Don't be a dumb little faggot all your sorry life.
Anyway,
It is illegal to use Xylocain before a fight.
If it were an enhancer you best believe Pactrash would use it 24/7.
You need to go back to troll school , because your failing.
You're an expert on failing..it's your heritage.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878Quote:
Originally Posted by corvetteThis proves you've never participated in any sport or any physical activity.;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIsn't it? I would imagine in many instances it is and either way a pain killer is rather different to Vitamin C. Floyd numbs his hands as he cannot take the pain of natural hands. It is a performance enhancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Fighters would rather feel the pain in their hands than nothing at all...that way they can tell if they damaged them....DUMMY
If a fighters hand is injured or broken..... HE WANTS TO KNOW IT.... right then and there...not until the gloves are taken off to reveal a career ending injury,like a bone sticking through his skin.
Wouldn't YOU want to know if you've wrecked your hands during a fight...or would you want them numbed so you can continue to ruin them???
Don't be a dumb little faggot all your sorry life.
Anyway,
It is illegal to use Xylocain before a fight.
If it were an enhancer you best believe Pactrash would use it 24/7.
You need to go back to troll school , because your failing.
Now prove what I said was wrong.
Dude, if you want a bitch off then let's do it, but you keep that talk off of the main boards and have a little respect for this forum we call home. Thank you.
Why does Floyd use it though? Or used it. I'm not sure if he ever did or didn't but I ask only because I want to know why boxers use it.
I love how these Pactards admit they have no idea whether he has or hasn't or still does or used to or may have or maybe dreamed he had but still don't care to research it and still act like it's all FACT.
Stupid little muppet morons just like Pac himself! HaHAhaaa...
It's an innocent question. I did some research. But most are just fans bashing each other and I do know it's not a banned substance. Are you in any way related to the Mayweather's? The classiness and all, makes me wonder.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
There is a new blanket rule that kinda of includes everything. I haven't verified but there is a specific list of what is allowed and the commission attempted to put this subject out of discussions but they actually just did political speak confirm in or denying nothing. They did increase the amount of thc fighters are allowed to have in their system. Fighters are suppose to sign a statement of what pain medication they are on and the ccommission say Floyd did that says he's not on any as of late. Don't have access to the link right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanum26It's an innocent question. I did some research. But most are just fans bashing each other and I do know it's not a banned substance. Are you in any way related to the Mayweather's? The classiness and all, makes me wonder.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I'm bored of this thread
Thanks. That's the answer I was looking for. Can't believe some posters here have to resort to name calling like you pissed on their ancestors' gravestones or whatnot. Hell, I even picked Floyd to win the fight in the poll.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyThere is a new blanket rule that kinda of includes everything. I haven't verified but there is a specific list of what is allowed and the commission attempted to put this subject out of discussions but they actually just did political speak confirm in or denying nothing. They did increase the amount of thc fighters are allowed to have in their system. Fighters are suppose to sign a statement of what pain medication they are on and the ccommission say Floyd did that says he's not on any as of late. Don't have access to the link right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanum26It's an innocent question. I did some research. But most are just fans bashing each other and I do know it's not a banned substance. Are you in any way related to the Mayweather's? The classiness and all, makes me wonder.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJe6-afGz0Q
How I feel when face to face with a Pactard. It's always the same....
Legal or illegal so what? lol, that's the entire point! Legal = you're allowed to do it, illegal = you're not allowed and you're a cheater.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Drugs should be banned full stop? Okay, does that include medicine? If Floyd or Manny take an antibiotic to clear up an infection, is that not also a performance enhancer? So if one of them catches the flu, they shouldn't be allowed to take something for that so they can get back to training? You're being ridiculous. Bottom line, substances are either illegal or legal. If you're taking something that's perfectly legal, what's the problem? Your gripe isn't with Mayweather, it should be with the commission for allowing it.
Also, I have to laugh at anyone here who's talking about an "even playing field". There's no truly even playing field that exists in life and certainly not in sport: everyone is born with advantages and disadvantages. Klitschko was blessed to be 6'6'' and an athletic specimen: everything else equal, how is the playing field ever going to be even for him and, let's say, Andy Ruiz or Chris Arreola?
How is a fight like Manny vs Algieri or Floyd vs Maidana going to be on an even playing field when both Pac and Floyd have MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars to invest in a training camp that Algeiri and Maidana did not. For this fight, Floyd is paying a private chef $1000 PER MEAL, and she's on constant stand by for him. He has businesses waiting on him hand and foot, anxiously awaiting his call any time of the day or night. How is that an even playing field? Come on. You Pac fans are ridiculous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyRzrxczzo
What I imagine a guy named Ruthless Rocco does for a day job.
I should just delete this thread but it got funny. :)
I have to say that you are displaying an elitist attitude, the likes of which I hope will become thoroughly annihilated in the revolutions of the coming years. It should be a level playing field and we should do everything we can to get the matchups and clean fighters we can. Don't make excuses for a fighter taking drugs to gain an advantage. Floyd has been very lucky to get away with it. Fighters all have the ability to train hard and eat a healthy meal. You get the same nutrition from a thousand dollars as you do 30 dollars. That is just an elitist attitude and the great equaliser in the end is always age. An expensive camp isn't going to save Floyd just as wealth will not protect you from the mob.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerLegal or illegal so what? lol, that's the entire point! Legal = you're allowed to do it, illegal = you're not allowed and you're a cheater.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Drugs should be banned full stop? Okay, does that include medicine? If Floyd or Manny take an antibiotic to clear up an infection, is that not also a performance enhancer? So if one of them catches the flu, they shouldn't be allowed to take something for that so they can get back to training? You're being ridiculous. Bottom line, substances are either illegal or legal. If you're taking something that's perfectly legal, what's the problem? Your gripe isn't with Mayweather, it should be with the commission for allowing it.
Also, I have to laugh at anyone here who's talking about an "even playing field". There's no truly even playing field that exists in life and certainly not in sport: everyone is born with advantages and disadvantages. Klitschko was blessed to be 6'6'' and an athletic specimen: everything else equal, how is the playing field ever going to be even for him and, let's say, Andy Ruiz or Chris Arreola?
How is a fight like Manny vs Algieri or Floyd vs Maidana going to be on an even playing field when both Pac and Floyd have MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars to invest in a training camp that Algeiri and Maidana did not. For this fight, Floyd is paying a private chef $1000 PER MEAL, and she's on constant stand by for him. He has businesses waiting on him hand and foot, anxiously awaiting his call any time of the day or night. How is that an even playing field? Come on. You Pac fans are ridiculous.
My point about legal and illegal is that it is a randomly imposed element. Law does not equate with right and wrong. Law has little to do with ethics and everything to do with protecting the elite scoundrels and ironically, we find the richest man in boxing got away with using performance enhancing drugs. Why not just let fighters take whatever substances they like at all times then? Or else get serious about it as boxing is not a game? I think the latter option is a more logical one. Just because Floyd got away with it and it was 'legal' does not make it right. Again, it is a horrible elitist sense of values that seeps through. You seem to think it right because the rules were twisted in his favour. In that respect it is you that completely missed my point.
Miles you're a stupid idiot.
:smilie_ahole::smilie_ahole::smilie_ahole:Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Rocco, you sound like a man on death row who hasnt come to terms with things. I understand this fight is causing you immense stress and strain. Confess and repent and your soul may well be saved. Mayweather belongs in the past and so does all the name calling. With loss we can grow even more as people. You are in our thoughts, Rocco.