Give Mayweather credit... it's Pac you should be disappointed in

Time to knock it off with the hating, everyone here knew Floyd is not a brawler and wasn't going to put on a Gatti/Ward with anyone. It was Pac who was supposed to bring the violence, excitement and the activity, and he couldn't do it because Mayweather wouldn't let him.

You all said Mayweather would run from Pac. The only time he ran was in the last seconds of a few rounds, because he knew Pac was trying to steal the round with a big flurry. For the rest of the time, he stood toe to toe in the middle of the ring, he stood in the pocket and he even stood against the ropes and let Pac throw (and miss) his big shots.

You all said Pacquiao was all wrong for Floyd because he was fast, he hit hard and he threw a ton of punches. Mayweather threw more punches than Pacquiao in this fight, 435 to 429. I don't think anyone has out thrown Pacquiao. Even vs Marquez 3, which was Pac's weakest effort and JMM won the fight and got robbed, Pac threw nearly 600 punches and landed at a 30% rate. Here he threw just over 400 and landed at a 19% rate. That wasn't by Manny's choice, it was Floyd's. PBF largely shut the down a southpaw who is considered (and deservedly so) the greatest, most dynamic OFFENSIVE fighter of this generation.

So give Floyd his credit. It wasn't Hagler/Hearns, but it wasn't Floyd's responsibility to make it Hagler/Hearns. Pac was considered by a lot of people to be the greatest fighter of this generation, the greatest fighter of the 2000s, and he had absolutely nothing for Floyd. And don't start on with the "5 years ago" nonsense. Both guys are past their best. Pac was still a world beater, if he couldn't catch Floyd now, he wasn't catching him in 2010-2012.

Maidana managed to throw 850 punches against Floyd. What's Pac's excuse?

I refuse to give Mayweather the credit. It was Pac who brought the excitement in that fight. He did what he could to bring the fight to Mayweather. But the latter was simply not up for a great fight worthy to be dubbed as the fight of the century. Heck, it was running of the century, hugging of the century, but never a fight to be remembered. A disgrace to boxing and an injustice to the boxing fans who thought it woukd be a great fight. :rolleyes:

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I refuse to give Mayweather the credit. It was Pac who brought the excitement in that fight. He did what he could to bring the fight to Mayweather. But the latter was simply not up for a great fight worthy to be dubbed as the fight of the century. Heck, it was running of the century, hugging of the century, but never a fight to be remembered. A disgrace to boxing and an injustice to the boxing fans who thought it woukd be a great fight. :rolleyes:

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I give you a like for your loyalty to Manny! Respect that never let a brotha down!

Beanflicker got this straight on. It was Manny's job to do what was needed ... dictate tempo, dictate distance, out work Floyd and win the fight. He couldn't and therefore didn't.

It was Floyd's job to win. Not make it an exciting fight. We know his style. Silly to expect different. I respect his boxing intelligence more than I do a mindless brawl.

It is what it is and it always was going to be.

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I refuse to give Mayweather the credit. It was Pac who brought the excitement in that fight. He did what he could to bring the fight to Mayweather. But the latter was simply not up for a great fight worthy to be dubbed as the fight of the century. Heck, it was running of the century, hugging of the century, but never a fight to be remembered. A disgrace to boxing and an injustice to the boxing fans who thought it woukd be a great fight. :rolleyes:

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Mayweather was up for doing what he's always done: winning. Pac was supposed to be the guy who could tag Floyd, get him out of his comfort zone and beat him up with his blitzing punches. He knew Mayweather was going to use movement and he wasn't just going to sit there and let Pac pound on him like Margarito or Rios. He knew what to expect, he told everyone Floyd was scared of him and that he would knock Floyd out, and he HAD NOTHING TO OFFER. He let Floyd coast to the easiest victory he's had in YEARS.

Again, even Maidana threw over 800 punches vs Floyd. Canelo threw 526, nearly 100 more than Pac. Robert Guerrero threw 580 punches vs Floyd. Cotto threw 500. What's Pac's excuse? He was forced to fight a Mayweather fight, he had nothing to offer him and Mayweather picked up the easiest 200 million anyone has ever made.

Yes, credit to Money, he made the fight go as he needed the fight to go. I had some hope in the fourth round it was going to be interesting but adjustments were made. Could have done without the holding and running but it's part of the game. One email I got is already talking about a rematch, why, besides the money. I'm grateful I split the bill with someone, I would have felt like a fool if I spent the whole bean myself thinking it would have gone a different way. That's why I'm a terrible at making wagers, I always bet with my heart, you almost always lose money when you bet with your heart.

Pac wasn't forced to do anything. Floyd had one aggressive moment the entire 12 rounds. The match was an embarrassment to boxing.

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I refuse to give Mayweather the credit. It was Pac who brought the excitement in that fight. He did what he could to bring the fight to Mayweather. But the latter was simply not up for a great fight worthy to be dubbed as the fight of the century. Heck, it was running of the century, hugging of the century, but never a fight to be remembered. A disgrace to boxing and an injustice to the boxing fans who thought it woukd be a great fight. :rolleyes:

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I give you a like for your loyalty to Manny! Respect that never let a brotha down!

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Loyalty would be him admitting Floyd won but not giving up on pac and say he is still a modern great and will bounce back. But what he's doing isn't loyalty it's just plain silly and immature with no understanding of boxing.

You are 100% correct @Beanflicker .

Floyd's stats are exactly on par with the stats he's had throughout the latter half of his career, whereas Manny threw 400 punches less than he's known to.

You can't blame Mayweather for Manny's poor performance--you must CREDIT him for it.

The tough part for die hard Pactards is that they could never see that Pac's opponents were always selected for specific reasons. Either at an unreasonable catch weight(Oscar), or after already having lost to someone else(Margarito & Hatton), or a come forward style with little defense (Rios). People who understand boxing could see that Floyd's skills are superior and that he would be able to nullify Pac's strengths and capitalize on his weaknesses whe not being the typical hand picked one dimensional fighter that Pac has been fed a steady diet of on his rise to the top.

So when Floyd doesn't run into every punch Manny throws, they think it's Floyd who is spoiling the fight--they can't see that it's their fighter who simply doesn't have the skill to bring the fight against a pure boxer. A true ATG.

I thought Floyd's legs were gone.

I could have sworn I saw him wheeling off the ropes and right back in the middle of the ring with ease.

Freddy should build his fighters up instead of trying to tear other fighter's down.


"Floyd's legs are gone" is not a strategy.

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I thought Floyd's legs were gone.

I could have sworn I saw him wheeling off the ropes and right back in the middle of the ring with ease.

Freddy should build his fighters up instead of trying to tear other fighter's down.


"Floyd's legs are gone" is not a strategy.

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I wonder what Freddie Roach has done with his blueprints that he was using to beat Mayweather?

His legs are gone, he's adjusted. He doesn't move nearly as much and now sometimes he holds to get a break. Watch his old fights and you won't see him holding. His lateral quickness isn't the same and his ability to maintain movement isn't the same. Just like in fights, he adjusted.

But you are right that they looked for flaws in Floyd rather than improving themselves. They hoped to catch Floyd slipping but he's still far too good.

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I refuse to give Mayweather the credit. It was Pac who brought the excitement in that fight. He did what he could to bring the fight to Mayweather. But the latter was simply not up for a great fight worthy to be dubbed as the fight of the century. Heck, it was running of the century, hugging of the century, but never a fight to be remembered. A disgrace to boxing and an injustice to the boxing fans who thought it woukd be a great fight. :rolleyes:

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I give you a like for your loyalty to Manny! Respect that never let a brotha down!

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Loyalty would be him admitting Floyd won but not giving up on pac and say he is still a modern great and will bounce back. But what he's doing isn't loyalty it's just plain silly and immature with no understanding of boxing.

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Don't know what I think of Manny bouncing back. Probably time for retirement. I didn't watch the post fight talks, the house I was at was full of drunkards and I must say I was dismal after the display Manny put on. I was also disappointed to hear him say he thinks he one the fight. I would have liked to have seen a more gracious defeat. Still think it was a shitty fight over all.

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Pac wasn't forced to do anything.

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So you're saying he CHOSE to throw a career low number of punches, 6 less than Mayweather himself? He chose to not land his right hook or straight right with any consistency? I guess that was his strategy going into the fight: don't throw many punches and land at a very low connect % ;D

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Time to knock it off with the hating, everyone here knew Floyd is not a brawler and wasn't going to put on a Gatti/Ward with anyone. It was Pac who was supposed to bring the violence, excitement and the activity, and he couldn't do it because Mayweather wouldn't let him.

You all said Mayweather would run from Pac. The only time he ran was in the last seconds of a few rounds, because he knew Pac was trying to steal the round with a big flurry. For the rest of the time, he stood toe to toe in the middle of the ring, he stood in the pocket and he even stood against the ropes and let Pac throw (and miss) his big shots.

You all said Pacquiao was all wrong for Floyd because he was fast, he hit hard and he threw a ton of punches. Mayweather threw more punches than Pacquiao in this fight, 435 to 429. I don't think anyone has out thrown Pacquiao. Even vs Marquez 3, which was Pac's weakest effort and JMM won the fight and got robbed, Pac threw nearly 600 punches and landed at a 30% rate. Here he threw just over 400 and landed at a 19% rate. That wasn't by Manny's choice, it was Floyd's. PBF largely shut the down a southpaw who is considered (and deservedly so) the greatest, most dynamic OFFENSIVE fighter of this generation.

So give Floyd his credit. It wasn't Hagler/Hearns, but it wasn't Floyd's responsibility to make it Hagler/Hearns. Pac was considered by a lot of people to be the greatest fighter of this generation, the greatest fighter of the 2000s, and he had absolutely nothing for Floyd. And don't start on with the "5 years ago" nonsense. Both guys are past their best. Pac was still a world beater, if he couldn't catch Floyd now, he wasn't catching him in 2010-2012.

Maidana managed to throw 850 punches against Floyd. What's Pac's excuse?

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Great post. Won't sit well with the pacman fans but very true post

How can I be disappointed with Manny?

He's not the fighter he was. He gave his best, but his current best just isn't good enough.

Being forced a day of doing are two different actions. Pac came out with too much respect and stayed on the outside. Mayweather also came out with too much respect. They were both psyched out of their respective minds. It was a shit performance buy both fighters. You can look at it and say Floyd way able to gain some composure earlier than pac, but his style is to lay back. I couldn't tell you exactly what was going through pacs mind but he was hit with anything to make him tentative. The main difference between Floyd and any other fighter his his longer stance. Pac being less aggressive is the product of his own mind s ed the in this fight. Now you can argue that Floyd is the cause of this mental state but you'dbe wrong.

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Being forced a day of doing are two different actions. Pac came out with too much respect and stayed on the outside. Mayweather also came out with too much respect. They were both psyched out of their respective minds. It was a shit performance buy both fighters. You can look at it and say Floyd way able to gain some composure earlier than pac, but his style is to lay back. I couldn't tell you exactly what was going through pacs mind but he was hit with anything to make him tentative. The main difference between Floyd and any other fighter his his longer stance. Pac being less aggressive is the product of his own mind s ed the in this fight. Now you can argue that Floyd is the cause of this mental state but you'dbe wrong.

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Manny said himself in the post fight interview that Floyd was too mobile and too fast for him to be able to hit. Floyd controlled the fight all night Manny could just follow him around swinging wildly in the air. When Floyd voluntarily backed to the ropes and allowed Manny to take 15-20 free punches, Manny only landed 2 or three.

The fight was all Floyd from the start to the finish. Just accept what boxing is all about. Hitting and not being hit. Floyd dominated both the hitting and the not getting hit.

I know it's hard for little Pactard brains to understand but it's true.

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How can I be disappointed with Manny?

He's not the fighter he was. He gave his best, but his current best just isn't good enough.

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Being forced a day of doing are two different actions. Pac came out with too much respect and stayed on the outside. Mayweather also came out with too much respect. They were both psyched out of their respective minds. It was a shit performance buy both fighters. You can look at it and say Floyd way able to gain some composure earlier than pac, but his style is to lay back. I couldn't tell you exactly what was going through pacs mind but he was hit with anything to make him tentative. The main difference between Floyd and any other fighter his his longer stance. Pac being less aggressive is the product of his own mind s ed the in this fight. Now you can argue that Floyd is the cause of this mental state but you'dbe wrong.

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Floyd must be the luckiest fighter in history, because virtually every fighter he faces comes in and fights a shitty fight. How convenient for Floyd. If only Pac or Roach had come onto Saddoboxing and seen one of the many posts that said Pac needed to throw a ton of punches to beat Floyd. Jeez, if only someone told him that, he probably would have knocked Floyd out. If someone told DLH to keep jabbing, or Mosley to keep throwing haymakers, they would have won too! It's a shame these professional fighters and trainers are so stupid and know nothing about boxing.

It's real easy to throw a ton of punches against a guy who stands still and plods forward slowly. It's a lot harder to throw a ton of punches against a guy who moves when you move and is constantly cocked and loaded to counter with both hands, and the guy is just as fast or faster than you are. In chess it's easy to capture a pawn that constantly moves one space forward and has no lateral or back movement. Much harder to capture a queen.

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Being forced a day of doing are two different actions. Pac came out with too much respect and stayed on the outside. Mayweather also came out with too much respect. They were both psyched out of their respective minds. It was a shit performance buy both fighters. You can look at it and say Floyd way able to gain some composure earlier than pac, but his style is to lay back. I couldn't tell you exactly what was going through pacs mind but he was hit with anything to make him tentative. The main difference between Floyd and any other fighter his his longer stance. Pac being less aggressive is the product of his own mind s ed the in this fight. Now you can argue that Floyd is the cause of this mental state but you'dbe wrong.

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Floyd must be the luckiest fighter in history, because virtually every fighter he faces comes in and fights a shitty fight. How convenient for Floyd. If only Pac or Roach had come onto Saddoboxing and seen one of the many posts that said Pac needed to throw a ton of punches to beat Floyd. Jeez, if only someone told him that, he probably would have knocked Floyd out. If someone told DLH to keep jabbing, or Mosley to keep throwing haymakers, they would have won too! It's a shame these professional fighters and trainers are so stupid and know nothing about boxing.

It's real easy to throw a ton of punches against a guy who stands still and plods forward slowly. It's a lot harder to throw a ton of punches against a guy who moves when you move and is constantly cocked and loaded to counter with both hands, and the guy is just as fast or faster than you are. In chess it's easy to capture a pawn that constantly moves one space forward and has no lateral or back movement. Much harder to capture a queen.

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And as you mentioned, FLoyd actually out threw and outlanded Pac, so how can we blame Floyd for fighting how he always does? Personally i think Floyd could've pressed more without risking too much but he did what he did to win, Pacqiou let the fight get away from him.

Overall it was a battle of the witts in this fight and each fighter knew the other guy can knock him out, thats why they were both so tentative.

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How can I be disappointed with Manny?

He's not the fighter he was. He gave his best, but his current best just isn't good enough.

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Personally, I think Manny is well past his best and it showed last night. He just didn't have it in him.

I suppose you could say he started much too slow and paid Mayweather too much respect, but when he did let the punches go he just couldn't hit the guy. He couldn't just go windmilling in there and waste even more energy.

Floyd was just too slippery and awkward for him and Manny no longer has enough speed to catch someone like that with any regularity.

He never had the speed to catch Floyd with any regularity. He fought JMM in 2004, 2008, 2011 and 2012, which is basically in every period of his career, and he ALWAYS had trouble with JMM because Juan moves and counter punches beautifully. Pac always had trouble with that style, he did his best work fighting big guys who plodded forward, who he could jump in and out against and spin around with his foot speed.

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He never had the speed to catch Floyd with any regularity. He fought JMM in 2004, 2008, 2011 and 2012, which is basically in every period of his career, and he ALWAYS had trouble with JMM because Juan moves and counter punches beautifully. Pac always had trouble with that style, he did his best work fighting big guys who plodded forward, who he could jump in and out against and spin around with his foot speed.

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That's all true, but there's no doubting that Manny has slowed down. A few years ago, Manny would have made more of a fight of it. I'm not saying he could have beaten Floyd, but it would have been a closer fight than we saw last night.

Has anyone noticed that Floyd Mayweather was getting booed in his own country ? Why ? Because he is a black man who’s UNBROKEN. The amount of hate that this man was generating is utterly insane. Fact is Floyd Mayweather is one of our last great black champions.

Boxing, as well as other combat sports, are all SYMBOLIC. Many non-black men are intimidated by black men, and many of them feel empowered when they see a non-black man kick a black man’s ass in anything; especially fighting. Floyd Mayweather whether he knows it or not, is a figure-head. He is the representation of the masculinity of Black Men. You'll begin to notice with the growing strength of MMA many white and other non-black men feel as if they have an answer to the hand-to-hand combat problem when it comes to black men.

Many brothers better recognize; because other races of men aren’t taking these courses for their health. All of a sudden, you’ll begin to notice non-black men who are looking to pick fights with you out of nowhere. They will feel bold enough to do this because they know something that you don't. If black men think that they are going to get by off of a intimidation factor, and running your mouth, that won’t work. You are going to be forced to show and prove;

Many of these younger cats need to start training themselves, simply with the aim of defending themselves. Even though I am a boxer, I definitely plan on adding grappling techniques to my repertoire.

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I thought Floyd's legs were gone.

I could have sworn I saw him wheeling off the ropes and right back in the middle of the ring with ease.

Freddy should build his fighters up instead of trying to tear other fighter's down.


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Exactly. Fighters don't have trouble closing the distance on him. Most pressure fighters do it to him, but they don't know how to consistently land on him once they got close, nor do they know how to land on him at range, or when he is in the pocket.

He should have had a plan for what to do once he got close to Floyd. Relying on a 'declining' element of your opponents skill set is just poor for a top level trainer.

A better plan would have been to just focus on volume like he did in sections of round 4 and 6. But because of Floyd's brilliance, he couldn't maintain his output.

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I thought Floyd's legs were gone.

I could have sworn I saw him wheeling off the ropes and right back in the middle of the ring with ease.

Freddy should build his fighters up instead of trying to tear other fighter's down.


"Floyd's legs are gone" is not a strategy.

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I wonder what Freddie Roach has done with his blueprints that he was using to beat Mayweather?

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Gave it back to Oscar.

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How can I be disappointed with Manny?

He's not the fighter he was. He gave his best, but his current best just isn't good enough.

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Personally, I think Manny is well past his best and it showed last night. He just didn't have it in him.

I suppose you could say he started much too slow and paid Mayweather too much respect, but when he did let the punches go he just couldn't hit the guy. He couldn't just go windmilling in there and waste even more energy.

Floyd was just too slippery and awkward for him and Manny no longer has enough speed to catch someone like that with any regularity.

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At 38 floyd is way past his best but still managing to do enough to beat the best around.

5 years ago manny was a better fighter but let's not forget that so was floyd.

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Has anyone noticed that Floyd Mayweather was getting booed in his own country ? Why ? Because he is a black man who’s UNBROKEN. The amount of hate that this man was generating is utterly insane. Fact is Floyd Mayweather is one of our last great black champions.

Boxing, as well as other combat sports, are all SYMBOLIC. Many non-black men are intimidated by black men, and many of them feel empowered when they see a non-black man kick a black man’s ass in anything; especially fighting. Floyd Mayweather whether he knows it or not, is a figure-head. He is the representation of the masculinity of Black Men. You'll begin to notice with the growing strength of MMA many white and other non-black men feel as if they have an answer to the hand-to-hand combat problem when it comes to black men.

Many brothers better recognize; because other races of men aren’t taking these courses for their health. All of a sudden, you’ll begin to notice non-black men who are looking to pick fights with you out of nowhere. They will feel bold enough to do this because they know something that you don't. If black men think that they are going to get by off of a intimidation factor, and running your mouth, that won’t work. You are going to be forced to show and prove;

Many of these younger cats need to start training themselves, simply with the aim of defending themselves. Even though I am a boxer, I definitely plan on adding grappling techniques to my repertoire.

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How can I be disappointed with Manny?

He's not the fighter he was. He gave his best, but his current best just isn't good enough.

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Far from his best, Manny was a big disappointment.

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Personally, I think Manny is well past his best and it showed last night. He just didn't have it in him.

I suppose you could say he started much too slow and paid Mayweather too much respect, but when he did let the punches go he just couldn't hit the guy. He couldn't just go windmilling in there and waste even more energy.

Floyd was just too slippery and awkward for him and Manny no longer has enough speed to catch someone like that with any regularity.

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At 38 floyd is way past his best but still managing to do enough to beat the best around.

5 years ago manny was a better fighter but let's not forget that so was floyd.

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That's purely down to style.

Defensive counter punchers like Floyd who don't waste anything last longer than aggressive, come forward fighters like Manny.

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How can I be disappointed with Manny?

He's not the fighter he was. He gave his best, but his current best just isn't good enough.

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Far from his best, Manny was a big disappointment.

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Personally, I think Manny is well past his best and it showed last night. He just didn't have it in him.

I suppose you could say he started much too slow and paid Mayweather too much respect, but when he did let the punches go he just couldn't hit the guy. He couldn't just go windmilling in there and waste even more energy.

Floyd was just too slippery and awkward for him and Manny no longer has enough speed to catch someone like that with any regularity.

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At 38 floyd is way past his best but still managing to do enough to beat the best around.

5 years ago manny was a better fighter but let's not forget that so was floyd.

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That's purely down to style.

Defensive counter punchers like Floyd who don't waste anything last longer than aggressive, come forward fighters like Manny.

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How can I be disappointed with Manny?

He's not the fighter he was. He gave his best, but his current best just isn't good enough.

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Far from his best, Manny was a big disappointment.

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Personally, I think Manny is well past his best and it showed last night. He just didn't have it in him.

I suppose you could say he started much too slow and paid Mayweather too much respect, but when he did let the punches go he just couldn't hit the guy. He couldn't just go windmilling in there and waste even more energy.

Floyd was just too slippery and awkward for him and Manny no longer has enough speed to catch someone like that with any regularity.

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At 38 floyd is way past his best but still managing to do enough to beat the best around.

5 years ago manny was a better fighter but let's not forget that so was floyd.

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That's purely down to style.

Defensive counter punchers like Floyd who don't waste anything last longer than aggressive, come forward fighters like Manny.

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And that's the smart move.

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Smart but very, very boring.

How is Floyd the highest paid athlete if he's so boring?

It's amazing how far people will go to discredit Floyd. After doing exactly what I predicted he would do in the fight, people have to use the "boring" excuse. Seriously? That's all you got? Have you not seen Floyd fight before. I could have told you it would be boring for most people. Every sport has to have a variety of styles and not every style can be exciting. The point of a sport is to win first and foremost. Not to entertain. It's obviously entertaining enough though because Floyd got tons of cash for putting on a fight. So some people have to find entertainment in his fighting.

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It's amazing how far people will go to discredit Floyd. After doing exactly what I predicted he would do in the fight, people have to use the "boring" excuse. Seriously? That's all you got? Have you not seen Floyd fight before. I could have told you it would be boring for most people. Every sport has to have a variety of styles and not every style can be exciting. The point of a sport is to win first and foremost. Not to entertain. It's obviously entertaining enough though because Floyd got tons of cash for putting on a fight. So some people have to find entertainment in his fighting.

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Who's discrediting Floyd?

No one can take away what he's achieved, but you can be of the opinion that his style is boring to watch. If you like aggressive fighters who are prepared to get involved in a good scrap, you probably won't find Floyd entertaining... which I don't. He bores me and his style is what made last night's "disappointment of the century" the boring, forgettable overhyped rip off that it was.

In my opinion of course.

Wait which is it give Floyd credit or be ddisappointed in Manny? With such a poor performance from Manny should have been all over him, bbut Floyd showed him way too much respect so they both deserve to be shit on.

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Wait which is it give Floyd credit or be ddisappointed in Manny? With such a poor performance from Manny should have been all over him, bbut Floyd showed him way too much respect so they both deserve to be shit on.

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Thing is that the majority of people aren't interested in shitting on Manny, poor old PacMan lost purely because of the big bad nasty cheating Mayweather, it wasn't Manny's fault at all...Oh and he had a sore shoulder as well you know.

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Wait which is it give Floyd credit or be ddisappointed in Manny? With such a poor performance from Manny should have been all over him, bbut Floyd showed him way too much respect so they both deserve to be shit on.

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Thing is that the majority of people aren't interested in shitting on Manny, poor old PacMan lost purely because of the big bad nasty cheating Mayweather, it wasn't Manny's fault at all...Oh and he had a sore shoulder as well you know.

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Always a double standard when it comes to Pac. Pac could have takenn a shotgun in there and people would justify it and say 'well Mayweather deserved it'.

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

Wait which is it give Floyd credit or be ddisappointed in Manny? With such a poor performance from Manny should have been all over him, bbut Floyd showed him way too much respect so they both deserve to be shit on.

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Floyd won the way he wanted to win: very easily, at a slow work rate and sustaining very little damage.

Manny is the guy who throws a ton of punches, hits hard and fast, knocks guys down and/or out, and overwhelms them with his blinding combinations.

One of those guys fought his fight, the other didn't. And the guy who didn't, lost.

If you're not understanding why Manny didn't throw as many punches as he normally does than there is a large gap in your knowledge of boxing that needs to be filled. You need to go study up, and I mean that with all due respect.