WBA on The Andre Ward vs. Carl Froch Situation - Boxing News
What a joke, how has Ward not been stripped ??? Makes no sense. Froch can fight Ward for the super belt apparently.
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WBA on The Andre Ward vs. Carl Froch Situation - Boxing News
What a joke, how has Ward not been stripped ??? Makes no sense. Froch can fight Ward for the super belt apparently.
I don't think it really matters. Those two have elevated themselves beyond owning a belt as far as I'm concerned. Everyone knows the score, they don't need a trinket between them for the fight to happen or for it to have any significance. Don't try and understand the workings of a governing body. It'll just give you a headache.
Yup. And I see why the sanctioning orgs do this- so not one fighter can manipulate holding the belt for any particularly lengthy period of time. No offense, just fair to the other fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
It's not for the good of boxing it's for their pockets (sanction fees).
As Memphis said - belts don't mean anything once a fighter gets to Froch's position in the game.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
they do mean something
maybe not to the regular/hardcore fans but to the wider audience they do
the WBA belts have lost their meaning mind you
i have little idea who is the WBA world champs are in general
Casual fans don't know the difference between the WBC, W-BNP, W-IRA or W-PONY title. As long as it's a shiny belt called world they'll buy it.
Bods that get to Froch's position - fame outside the boxing world, massive fanbase, PPV fighter, worldwide recognition etc, won't lose his audience because of a belt.
Belts are clearly important for younger fighters and "no fans" fighters though.
Diddo Fenster
yeah but imagine trying to explain it to someone not in the knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
froch is the best fighter in britain, but why isnt he world champ?
I don't see what the fuss is all about anyway , Froch is retired isn't he? He was mandated to fight the Super Champion , who even after 2 years out of the ring offered to come to Froch's home country only for Froch to say " I want it in my back yard!"Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44yeah but imagine trying to explain it to someone not in the knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
froch is the best fighter in britain, but why isnt he world champ?
he refused to fight Degale , he didn't want to fight GGG, there's no interest in Kessler3, he wanted to fight a guy who has never fought at SMW (his fights with Vera were catchweight bullshit) and when that guy got beat, he had no options.
so what are they to do? they could say "ok Carl , we're gonna give you a shiny new belt called the Froch World Title , and you can fight whatever cabbage you want to fight!" :rolleyes:
If Froch doesn't fight Andre Ward, than he isn't worth a fiddler's fuck! FACT.
honest man, im not sure that theres any fact in any of that post so i cant be arsed replyingQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI don't see what the fuss is all about anyway , Froch is retired isn't he? He was mandated to fight the Super Champion , who even after 2 years out of the ring offered to come to Froch's home country only for Froch to say " I want it in my back yard!"Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44yeah but imagine trying to explain it to someone not in the knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
froch is the best fighter in britain, but why isnt he world champ?
he refused to fight Degale , he didn't want to fight GGG, there's no interest in Kessler3, he wanted to fight a guy who has never fought at SMW (his fights with Vera were catchweight bullshit) and when that guy got beat, he had no options.
so what are they to do? they could say "ok Carl , we're gonna give you a shiny new belt called the Froch World Title , and you can fight whatever cabbage you want to fight!" :rolleyes:
The WBA is the worst sanctioning organization.
Why strip Froch, but not Ward, who has been inactive 18 months?
but you did reply! what bit isn't fact?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44honest man, im not sure that theres any fact in any of that post so i cant be arsed replyingQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI don't see what the fuss is all about anyway , Froch is retired isn't he? He was mandated to fight the Super Champion , who even after 2 years out of the ring offered to come to Froch's home country only for Froch to say " I want it in my back yard!"Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44yeah but imagine trying to explain it to someone not in the knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
froch is the best fighter in britain, but why isnt he world champ?
he refused to fight Degale , he didn't want to fight GGG, there's no interest in Kessler3, he wanted to fight a guy who has never fought at SMW (his fights with Vera were catchweight bullshit) and when that guy got beat, he had no options.
so what are they to do? they could say "ok Carl , we're gonna give you a shiny new belt called the Froch World Title , and you can fight whatever cabbage you want to fight!" :rolleyes:
The WBA are probably planning another belt maybe - The former champion unified Super World Belt ?
That way we can have 8 WBA champions per division , sanctioning fee genius.
"The WBC stands for 'We Be Crooks' and the WBA... we don't even count that!"
James Toney
Felix Strurm!
Froch should really try and make the fight with Ward who should accept the fight in Nottingham, it is only a few miles up the road from Wembley.
You beat me to it. I was wondering the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Yeah, I heard that!
(Well..... actually..... I read it on the caption underneath, translating the slurring).
Because of the rules. The Super Champion is like a title, the regular champion has the responsibilities. Froch is retiring anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1You beat me to it. I was wondering the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
How long should a Champion be allowed to keep his belt, if he does not defend his title Ward
has been injured and keeps his title, strange but contenders should have a chance to fight
for the title.!
But we no it's not as simple as that is it,! the rating of all the governing body's are full of
what's he doing there fighters, they are not there on merit,! just by who's palms you have greased
to get there.:scratchchin: