How was his footwork in the last fight?
Compare the footwork in this fight to his previous encounters?
What are the real tale tale signs when loosing footwork/legs and give me some examples..cheers.
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How was his footwork in the last fight?
Compare the footwork in this fight to his previous encounters?
What are the real tale tale signs when loosing footwork/legs and give me some examples..cheers.
This 'Thread' has no legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
As for a boxer loosing his legs. That usually happens on 'Fight Night' when he walks up
the steps to get into the Ring.
See; Hilmer Kenty
A prime example of a boxer loosing his legs right in front of your eyes.
As for the 'best legs' ever on Television. How about a little 'Bewitched'.
Elizabeth Montgomery, starring as Samantha Stevens
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Naah.
You've got to do better than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Please don't tell me ..... Khloe Kardashian
He's still fast as fuck on his feet but you can tell he paces himself and does it in spurts because he can't do it all night like he used to.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
I sincerely suspect one of the posters that has contributed to this thread has down syndrome.
Yes, but I think you have a mild manageable form of the disability, I would say Auspegers. More of a Pervasive Developmental Disorder more on the autism spectrum, you are doing remarkably well in light of your illness.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by walrusYes, but I think you have a mild manageable form of the disability, I would say Auspegers. More of a Pervasive Developmental Disorder more on the autism spectrum, you are doing remarkably well in light of your illness.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Says a Pactard... Thanks for showing up.
In seriousness, this fight was so shitty it was hard to detect much slippage on his side. Saw a little more holding and running but that was just tactics. I see no reason why Floyd can't go for and probably have success with 50. I can't see a reason why he wouldn't.
Agreed, but he didn't have to move all night below 140 because he could punch, so it's tough to say. I don't think we've ever seen a significant decline in a short time or anything. For a 38 year old his size, with as many fights, his legs have held up incredibly well. The Maidana fight was hard for him because thats a swarmer, probably the best he had fought since Castillo for that matter. Cotto also did good work coming forward and making Floyd reset. Guys who box with him and try and pick their own spots are going to make his legs look fine, until they truly are shot. Think DLH or Alvarez.. Guys you could say were easily strong enough to test his legs, but they didn't have the style to make it that kind of fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerHe's still fast as fuck on his feet but you can tell he paces himself and does it in spurts because he can't do it all night like he used to.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Floyd requires 3-Months of preparation before a bout now. His leg strength will always be there.
It's the other things {Holding and Stalling} that is on the rise now. Nothing more than 'smarts'
and 'Ring Generalship'.
"Lets talk about legs. Mine take me from here, to there." ........ Julie Newmar
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How is this even a question? Floyd moved the whole night to keep Manny out of position. Definitely no slippage or loss of mobility from his legs, unfortunately.
A person would have to be blind to not see the difference in movement from his days at 130 to now. Or to not see how Floyd is off balance much more now which almost never happened until about 2006 and has increased little by little. Until 2014 it increased significantly. But the movement he needed against Pacquiao wasn't the movement he needed against Corrales. Against Pac he simply needed to be able to half step back and reset as Pac initiated to make Pac reach and exposed for the counter. That movement is still there. That movement will still be there if they do it again in 2016.
As for the tell tale signs. The answer is balance. Footwork is about balance. To be in position to defend and attack. If you are not able to do both because of where your feet are then your footwork is failing.
Whoa Nellie !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Are you stating that Floyd's footwork is failing.
The guy prepares for a bout, with a 90-Day intense training camp with the 'best' Aerobic
Instructors around.
Have you ever seen Floyd jab-and-duck while Training on the 'Balance Beam'.
An incredible display of balance.
"Try doing that while watching 'Valley of the Dolls' .... Mr. Ron Swanson."
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Mind, I always respect how Floyd comes in in prime condition. Manny looked a bit loose, flabby and old to me. If it isnt the injury then his hunger has gone.
Since there was no injury... It must be fair to say Manny just isn't that good without PEDs and/or when he isn't fighting Floyd's or someone else's leftovers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Let's not talk about peds or past opponents or even hunger.
No more excuses.
The better man won and that's it.
If pac won he would have been the better man and floyds hunger has left the game ages ago.
The legs on floyd have held up and he stayed of the ropes this time and controlled the fight well.
His legs and footwork are vital at this point.
Either,Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoSince there was no injury... It must be fair to say Manny just isn't that good without PEDs and/or when he isn't fighting Floyd's or someone else's leftovers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You're in Love with Floyd,
Or, Manny dropped a 'load' in your mouth.
Which is it ?
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Roach comments have a lot to do with raising this issue.
Floyd also is correct that if he uses his legs: fans will say he ran.
If he stands like he did with Corley or Cotto, fans will say his legs are gone. In other words he can't win that argument.
I have an argument : Floyd has great movement, that is based on legs.
An example of foot work is Bhop.
He is the master. Floyd's foot work can't compare with Bhop's.
I'm definitely blind then. I saw Floyd move laterally often and he seemed as fast as ever. May have been the picture size though, I only have a 52 inch T.V. Wonder if they have any options in Braille...????Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Mr Ron Swanson,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
You're so { 'anal' ytical }. You saw all that in Floyd. What perception.
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I see more than that in Floyd Mr. Paxtom. I think physically he is near gone. He's just smarter than people is all. People still think he is fast, I disagree. He is still quick and his timing makes people think he is fast. I think he looks downright ragged the last 2 years. He's just so much smarter than his opponents it doesn't show. I think Floyd is desperate to be done with boxing because he knows how far he has slipped physically.
Mr. Ron Swanson,
It is understandable to state that Floyd has 'slipped' some at Age; 38.
How much has he slipped, maybe 10%.
That is far from being done.
But the man does pride himself in being at the 'best' physical condition possible
at all times. Lets give him that.
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