Chavez Jr returns!

Apparently he is back in July and is fighting a guy nicknamed "Cheetos" :-X Wondering if he just scanned the opponents list and went with what was on his mind?

Seriously though..seems like a quick return after what Fonfara put on him. Really wonder where his head is at as he was as sloppy in body as he was in the way he fought. Haymon is going to make us sit through this grazing heifer again but I think he is totally done. Certainly will not be at middleweight, the current residence of one Mr. "Cheetos".

I would think he would try to pass for a middleweight again..... dehydrating to 160 before ballooning up to 180-185. The only way he beats anyone decent is by outweighing them by 30 pounds. He's gonna need some undetectable diuretics, though. Ain't no way he's beating anyone his own size. Although if does get back in the ring with someone his own size, I'll be happy to add another recording to the Fonfara fight.

You guys suck, Chaves stepped up got his ass kicked but showed nothing but heart, same as he did fighting Martinez but this last time against a very heavy handed Fonfara.

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

You guys suck, Chaves stepped up got his ass kicked but showed nothing but heart, same as he did fighting Martinez but this last time against a very heavy handed Fonfara.

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He got dropped got up n fought but then quit. He went on to complain about his opponent outweighing him. This after he grossly outweighed all of his opponents.

The problem is all the good fighters stop fighting good competition and start looking at the cash cow and stall their career in the hope of fighting Junior.

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

You guys suck, Chaves stepped up got his ass kicked but showed nothing but heart, same as he did fighting Martinez but this last time against a very heavy handed Fonfara.

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I think that is a fair assessment, except for that 'you guys suck' comment. It takes all kinds to make the boxing world an interesting place and Chavez Jr. has as much right to be there as anyone else. I'm interested to see how he does in his next fight, if there is one. He did quit on his stool, but that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned, it means he has a brain.
I hope he starts listening to his father, but it seems like he does not get along with JCC Sr. Some of us think he is taking up time and space needed by other fighters but I think there is plenty of room for a character like Chavez Jr. He had me shaking my head when he said he thought he won his last fight.
I still don't know who 'Cheetos' is.

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

You guys suck, Chaves stepped up got his ass kicked but showed nothing but heart, same as he did fighting Martinez but this last time against a very heavy handed Fonfara.

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I think that is a fair assessment, except for that 'you guys suck' comment. It takes all kinds to make the boxing world an interesting place and Chavez Jr. has as much right to be there as anyone else. I'm interested to see how he does in his next fight, if there is one. He did quit on his stool, but that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned, it means he has a brain.
I hope he starts listening to his father, but it seems like he does not get along with JCC Sr. Some of us think he is taking up time and space needed by other fighters but I think there is plenty of room for a character like Chavez Jr. He had me shaking my head when he said he thought he won his last fight.
I still don't know who 'Cheetos' is.

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Marcos 'Dorado/Cheetos' Reyes

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

You guys suck, Chaves stepped up got his ass kicked but showed nothing but heart, same as he did fighting Martinez but this last time against a very heavy handed Fonfara.

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He showed heart against Martinez but nothing else. I love how Chavez fans cling onto that last round because he knocked Martinez down. Macklin dropped Martinez. Williams dropped Martinez. Pavlik dropped Martinez. Murray dropped him twice. Cotto dropped him 4 times. And every one of those guys won more rounds against Martinez than Chavez did, and he was much bigger than all of them on fight night.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

You guys suck, Chaves stepped up got his ass kicked but showed nothing but heart, same as he did fighting Martinez but this last time against a very heavy handed Fonfara.

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He got dropped got up n fought but then quit. He went on to complain about his opponent outweighing him. This after he grossly outweighed all of his opponents.

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Thus evaporating one of those ignorant myths about quitting being a nationality thing.

;)

Let's enumerate the major points, shall we?



1. First time he fights someone he doesn't grossly outweigh.... and he gets dropped on his fat ass.

2. He quit on his stool. (Poof!)

3. He was leading with his head the whole fight, hoping maybe to gore Fonfara to death.

4. He whined about 57 times to the referee about Fonfara.

5. He actually said OUT LOUD after the fight that he thought he was winning the fight.



You're right about Junior being a character, @beenKOed . I'm just not sure there should be room in boxing for someone who thoroughly disrespects the sport and has lived off his daddy's name as long as he has. Add me to the list of those who think he is taking up time and space...... and publicity..... and oxygen..... needed by other fighters. When he leaves, good riddance. If not, I'll anxiously await his next lesson in professional boxing.

i'm not a big fan of chaves, so trash away, I just don't think he's done anything every other fighter does fighting below his class do deserve it.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Let's enumerate the major points, shall we?



1. First time he fights someone he doesn't grossly outweigh.... and he gets dropped on his fat ass.

2. He quit on his stool. (Poof!)

3. He was leading with his head the whole fight, hoping maybe to gore Fonfara to death.

4. He whined about 57 times to the referee about Fonfara.

5. He actually said OUT LOUD after the fight that he thought he was winning the fight.



You're right about Junior being a character, @beenKOed . I'm just not sure there should be room in boxing for someone who thoroughly disrespects the sport and has lived off his daddy's name as long as he has. Add me to the list of those who think he is taking up time and space...... and publicity..... and oxygen..... needed by other fighters. When he leaves, good riddance. If not, I'll anxiously await his next lesson in professional boxing.

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You know, this is bullshit! There's a Likes Button, but no Dislikes Button. Why is that and who's the dumbass that forgot it? I could really use one right now. lol

My personal bias ... if Gatti can fight Ward with a fucked up hand, I don't get how Chavez quit ...

But that's just me.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Apparently he is back in July and is fighting a guy nicknamed "Cheetos" :-X Wondering if he just scanned the opponents list and went with what was on his mind?

Seriously though..seems like a quick return after what Fonfara put on him. Really wonder where his head is at as he was as sloppy in body as he was in the way he fought. Haymon is going to make us sit through this grazing heifer again but I think he is totally done. Certainly will not be at middleweight, the current residence of one Mr. "Cheetos".

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They have hired Garcia as his new trainer. We all know how disciplined his fighters have been lately. I just dont understand the investment.

Sr is in better shape than him

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Apparently he is back in July and is fighting a guy nicknamed "Cheetos" :-X Wondering if he just scanned the opponents list and went with what was on his mind?

Seriously though..seems like a quick return after what Fonfara put on him. Really wonder where his head is at as he was as sloppy in body as he was in the way he fought. Haymon is going to make us sit through this grazing heifer again but I think he is totally done. Certainly will not be at middleweight, the current residence of one Mr. "Cheetos".

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Haha, That was funny

I heard the wants to clean the Cheetos, Tachoes and Burritoes division!

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

You guys suck, Chaves stepped up got his ass kicked but showed nothing but heart, same as he did fighting Martinez but this last time against a very heavy handed Fonfara.

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He got put on his arse and then quit on his stool. Just like his dad. Another generation of shame for that family.

Also, too, Cheetos. Fuck me. Next fight after this one they'll move him up in class and he'll be fighting a guy called Doritos.

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

You guys suck, Chaves stepped up got his ass kicked but showed nothing but heart, same as he did fighting Martinez but this last time against a very heavy handed Fonfara.

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It would be a lot easier to have respect for Chavez showing "heart" if he hadn't been a borderline cheat and showed a lack of respect for boxing for so many years. I really consider him a farce. I'd like to see him rebuild and make a comeback in a serious manner but I really don't think he has it in him. He really can be a disgrace to the sport.

Well said. People conveniently ignore his rampant cheating to make weight and other dodgy issues.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Well said. People conveniently ignore his rampant cheating to make weight and other dodgy issues.

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Yeah but his rampant cheating to make weight is only because of his rampant eating that makes him gain weight.

If he does not have the discipline to make weight then get out of boxing.

Just out of interest does anybody know what the Fonfara-Chavez scorecards were?

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Just out of interest does anybody know what the Fonfara-Chavez scorecards were?

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I read it was 89-80 on one, and 88-81 on the other two.

Not worthy of another thread ;D but looks like Chavez v Angulo in a battle of yesterdays on Fury-Wilder undercard. If Chavez makes 168 I'll pay his next casino buffet tab. Hope an old Perro like Angulo gets paid.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Apparently he is back in July and is fighting a guy nicknamed "Cheetos" :-X Wondering if he just scanned the opponents list and went with what was on his mind?

Seriously though..seems like a quick return after what Fonfara put on him. Really wonder where his head is at as he was as sloppy in body as he was in the way he fought. Haymon is going to make us sit through this grazing heifer again but I think he is totally done. Certainly will not be at middleweight, the current residence of one Mr. "Cheetos".

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Jr can get a few good fights at Super Middle. lololol.... Def not at Middle. But he can get a few decent fights, Super Middle is fading a bit. No one wants to take the entire title- Middle and Jr. Middle seems to be the premier weight divisions outside of the Welters.

Why are the Welters always ranking up there? Welters and Middle, even some times more than Heavy?

JC Jr is one of those guys I would love to see knocked out clean and cold...would love for some old warrior to hammer the shit out of that bastard because it's quite obvious he'll never fight another dangerous fighter ever again. Angulo at 168?!?!?! For fucks sake, was Angel Manfredy too busy?