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I have plenty of respect for courageous road warriors who win or defend a world title fighting in their opponent's home country.
Sergey Kovalev (the WBO from Cleverly in the UK, then the IBF and WBA from Hopkins in the USA)
James DeGale (IBF in the USA against the American boxer, Dirrell)
Terence Crawford (in the UK against the British boxer Burns)
Kell Brook (in the USA against Porter)
Who are some of the others?
MARVIN HAGLER whipping Alan Minter in Wembley!
yes that was good...Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhhamad Ali had good world tours
Timothy Bradley beating Junior Witter (WBC in Nottingham)Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Bernard Hopkins beating Jean Pascal (WBC in Montreal)
Roman Martinez beating Nicky Cook (WBO in Manchester)
Honeyghan beating Curry in Atlantic City.
Lennox vs Holyfield, and the rematch vs Rahman.
But they are a bit cheeky as Len did a lot of his fighting in the US of course.
Right, Lennox was the greatest Canadian fighter of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
I don't think winning in the US counts as on the road like other countries. The US just isn't as nationalistic about boxing as other countries because it is a country of immigrants. Italian Americans think they're Italian, Irish Americans think they're Irish, Armenian Americans....
And with so many foreign fighters setting up here for most of their careers we just don't get attached to nationality. If you asked 20 american fight fans to list their top 3 favorite fighters or even top 5 I bet the great majority or nearly all listed would be foreigners like Morales or GGG or Tito or or or. Look at the GGG fight in California, when Ward was mentioned the crowd booed. In Wards home state nationality was irrelevant compared to action. Or look at Floyds home city being overun by Pac and Hatton. We just don't care.
Ken Buchanan won the WBA/lineal Lightweight title in Puerto Rico and WBC in the USA
Wayne McCullough won the WBC title in Japan.
Nigel Benn won the WBO middleweight title in America and the WBC supermiddle title in Italy
Haye vs Mormeck in France.
What region of Canada speaks with a cockney accent by the way?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerRight, Lennox was the greatest Canadian fighter of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
Argentinian's
December 12, 1968 .......... Tokyo, Japan ........ WBA Light-Welterweight Championship
Nicolino Locche ....... 'TKO 10' ...... Paul 'Takeshi' Fuji
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November 7, 1970 ......... Rome, Italy ............ World Middleweight Championship
Carlos Monzon ....... 'TKO 12' ..... Nino Benvenuti
"Oh Carlos. Ooo La La."
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Nino was probably the only middle he ever fought near their prime save Bennie and one of the only times he left Argentina. And who is that chick in the pic? Is that his wife that he beat half to death and threw off the balcony or one of the other two he just beat half to death?
I guess the same region where Lennox was taught how to box and won a gold medal for. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanWhat region of Canada speaks with a cockney accent by the way?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerRight, Lennox was the greatest Canadian fighter of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
That would be,Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Susana Giminez
Body Rating........ A+
Face Rating......... B
Susana was the most popular Television Commerical Star in Argentina during the late-1960's
and early-1970's.
Famous for being the { SHOCK ! } soaped up girl in the shower, doing the Argentinian Television Commercials
for the soap 'Kadum'.
Yes, Carlos 'lumped' her up as well.
Susana went on to become Argentina's most favorite Talk Show Host. She's worth 'many' Millions right now.
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Glen Johnson
Chris Byrd
Winky Wright
Those guys thrived outside their own nations.
Yep that's your gold. That success is for him and Canada, sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI guess the same region where Lennox was taught how to box and won a gold medal for. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanWhat region of Canada speaks with a cockney accent by the way?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerRight, Lennox was the greatest Canadian fighter of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
Then he turned pro and wanted to represent his homeland so at that point Canada can fuck off ;)
Lennox was tired of the gay bars in Canada so he needed to live in an even gayer country to satisfy his needs.
Well Lewis wanted that UK cash because Canada just didn't support it's pro boxers like the UK did. So it was a business decision, not a decision of the heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
Lennox lived in Canada, learned to box in Canada, won a gold medal for Canada, turned pro and was trained by a guy in Detroit (which is only several KM from Canada)... yet the Brits want to claim him. What a joke! ;D
If he had stayed in London and learned to box there, he would have been another Audley Harrison (without the olympic gold) IF HE WAS LUCKY.
Azumah Nelson going into Puerto Rico and bludgeoning Wilfredo Gomez. Brain Mitchell was the literal road warrior...won a trinket and defended in 7,8 different countries. Never his own for political reasons.
He was born in Britain and lived here until he was 13.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerWell Lewis wanted that UK cash because Canada just didn't support it's pro boxers like the UK did. So it was a business decision, not a decision of the heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
Lennox lived in Canada, learned to box in Canada, won a gold medal for Canada, turned pro and was trained by a guy in Detroit (which is only several KM from Canada)... yet the Brits want to claim him. What a joke! ;D
If he had stayed in London and learned to box there, he would have been another Audley Harrison (without the olympic gold) IF HE WAS LUCKY.
He returned at 24 to turn pro thus ending his 11 year association with Canada.
Give it up man. Lennox is British.
(and Lennox could have been trained by a chimp in a tracksuit and been better than Audley).
Exactly. That's what I said! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
It's what happened in those 11 years that matters.
Lets not forget either, the years between 13 and 24 are certainly the most crucial for a boxer to develop his craft. If Lennox had spent that time in the UK; he might have suffered a bunch of early stoppages, become to muscle bound and decided it was better to go out on his shield than to win. Never know right.
October 29, 1976
Castilla y Leon, Spain
Saensak Muangsurin ......... TKO 2 ....... Miguel Velazquez
WBC Light-Welterweight Championship.
'The Shadow of the Devil' recaptures his WBC Light-Welterweight Championship, by
dumping WBC Champion - Miguel Velazquez of Spain on the canvas '4-times' in Round 2.
It was a 'blow-out'.
http://www.canarymundo.com/imagenes/...Maunsuring.jpg
Yeah he did most of his initial learning in Canada. Not denying that. But calling him Canadian? No way Pedro!Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerExactly. That's what I said! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
It's what happened in those 11 years that matters.
I learned to play the didgeridoo while out in Australia. But that won't make me fucking Australian when I launch my highly successful didgeridoo career. :cool:
July 24, 1968
WBC Featherweight Championship
Wales, United Kingdom
Champion ....... Howard Winstone ... {Wales, United Kingdom}
Challenger ...... Jose Legra ..............{A Cuban living in Spain}
Jose Legra 'demolished' the Champion by a TKO 5.
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According to Howard Winstone >
"Judy Geeson was at Ringside, and she was wearing a very short skirt. While I was trying to get a 'peek', Jose Legra clocked me."
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Roman Gonzales, 3 titles won abroad.
June 26, 1959
World Heavyweight Championship
Yankee Stadium ~ Bronx, New York
Champion - Floyd Patterson {USA} ......... Challenger - Ingemar Johansson {Sweden}
'Ingo' smashes the Champion by TKO 3.
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"The 'three' best things about Sweden are, Ingemar Johansson and Swedish Meatballs."
Anita Ekberg
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Shawn Michaels over Brett Hart in Canada....oh wait....
You seem to be talking a lot about ......'Gay Bars', and 'Cocks', and Floyd Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Of course, this has nothing to do with the 'poster' on your bedroom ceiling.
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