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Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
If anyone that deserves to fight Mayweather, outside of a Manny rematch, it is Kell Brook.
If Porter had not lost to Brook, Porter would have been a shoe in. But that did not happen.
I don't see where Khan feels he deserves a shot over a Danny Garcia (a guy who knocked him spark out) or Lamont Peterson, the guy who beat him by a UD and a guy that was robbed in his fight with a guy that knocked Khan out in Garcia. I don't see, aside from name alone, how Khan feels he should get this fight CONSIDERING how he looked against Algieri.
Khan should fight Manny, if anything, if it's a payday he wants. Manny may not get him $20 mil, but he can rake in about $10 with a huge Manny fight. Even more if they fight in England.
Brook is the prime candidate for a Mayweather fight. No one else, in a fair and even an optical sense, makes sense.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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ykdadamaja
If anyone that deserves to fight Mayweather, outside of a Manny rematch, it is Kell Brook.
If Porter had not lost to Brook, Porter would have been a shoe in. But that did not happen.
I don't see where Khan feels he deserves a shot over a Danny Garcia (a guy who knocked him spark out) or Lamont Peterson, the guy who beat him by a UD and a guy that was robbed in his fight with a guy that knocked Khan out in Garcia. I don't see, aside from name alone, how Khan feels he should get this fight CONSIDERING how he looked against Algieri.
Khan should fight Manny, if anything, if it's a payday he wants. Manny may not get him $20 mil, but he can rake in about $10 with a huge Manny fight. Even more if they fight in England.
Brook is the prime candidate for a Mayweather fight. No one else, in a fair and even an optical sense, makes sense.
I agree 100%!
Special K would present a serious test for Money May.
Khan is a waste of physical talent. No chin, no boxing IQ.
Spesh K could upset Mayweather for sure.
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Beanflicker
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ykdadamaja
If anyone that deserves to fight Mayweather, outside of a Manny rematch, it is Kell Brook.
If Porter had not lost to Brook, Porter would have been a shoe in. But that did not happen.
I don't see where Khan feels he deserves a shot over a Danny Garcia (a guy who knocked him spark out) or Lamont Peterson, the guy who beat him by a UD and a guy that was robbed in his fight with a guy that knocked Khan out in Garcia. I don't see, aside from name alone, how Khan feels he should get this fight CONSIDERING how he looked against Algieri.
Khan should fight Manny, if anything, if it's a payday he wants. Manny may not get him $20 mil, but he can rake in about $10 with a huge Manny fight. Even more if they fight in England.
Brook is the prime candidate for a Mayweather fight. No one else, in a fair and even an optical sense, makes sense.
I agree 100%!
Special K would present a serious test for Money May.
Khan is a waste of physical talent. No chin, no boxing IQ.
Spesh K could upset Mayweather for sure.
Khan, when you boil him all down, and probably why he is the most exciting guy aside from Manny in boxing today, is that Khan is only a bang and move kinda fighter. No boxing IQ indeed. That and a weak chin, lolololol..... wrong mix.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
Floyd is never fighting Kell or Thurman in a million years - and I don't blame him.
The sooner Floyd retires the better. The Floyd lottery ticket is just preventing great fights from happening.
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Kell must have a shitty management team. They should have been making some serious noise for months by now. Aside from observant boxing fans, no one has even heard of this guy, yet he is arguably the most bonafide welterweight in the world. As good as he is, he won't generate any interest from casual fans. They'll look at him as "just another opponent" along the lines of Guerrero and Ortiz.
They are doing virtually nothing to put his name out there.
If it were me, I would have showed up at Floyd's post-fight interview right after his win over Pac, ala Shane Mosley. Imagine the stir that would have created!! Shane HUSTLED his way into a big payday and it worked.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
Khans a bigger name than brook and will obviously generate more money. Brook and Thurman very well might beat Khan but they have absolutely no chance or beating floyd. Out the 3 of them Khan is the only 1 who could beat floyd IMO and I hope floyd picks the easy fight with brook or Thurman.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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Fenster
Floyd is never fighting Kell or Thurman in a million years - and I don't blame him.
The sooner Floyd retires the better. The Floyd lottery ticket is just preventing great fights from happening.
I have to agree with some of this.
Floyd owns all types of brook or thurman but everyone seems to be waiting around for mayweather rather than making a name for themselves.
Bradley is also still a major threat in the divison and he should be in that thurman, brook and khan circle.
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Sleepwalker
Kell must have a shitty management team. They should have been making some serious noise for months by now. Aside from observant boxing fans, no one has even heard of this guy, yet he is arguably the most bonafide welterweight in the world. As good as he is, he won't generate any interest from casual fans. They'll look at him as "just another opponent" along the lines of Guerrero and Ortiz.
They are doing virtually nothing to put his name out there.
If it were me, I would have showed up at Floyd's post-fight interview right after his win over Pac, ala Shane Mosley. Imagine the stir that would have created!! Shane HUSTLED his way into a big payday and it worked.
I think they're thinking they can get to the top without him. Honestly, fighting Floyd is a suicide fight. Floyd has been in with harder punchers, fast punchers and bigger fighters than Kell. Kell has a short reach and will have to chase Floyd around the ring and Floyd will just pick him off and win a UD. I like Kell, but he has nothing that will beat Mayweather. So why fight him, when you can make a lot of money fighting on Box Office in the UK and then probably get the much more winnable Pacquiao fight?
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
Deserves no. Better fight yes.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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g3org3
Khans a bigger name than brook and will obviously generate more money. Brook and Thurman very well might beat Khan but they have absolutely no chance or beating floyd. Out the 3 of them Khan is the only 1 who could beat floyd IMO and I hope floyd picks the easy fight with brook or Thurman.
Khan may be a bigger name, but is he a currant Champion NO, he had been KO twice his last
fight he hardly set the World alight did he.
Trouble with Khan is he is no welter weight, he will get sparked by the bigger punchers if he
faces Brook, Kell will get to him and KO Khan.;)
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Khan has the fans.
Khan can raise the capital.
Kell Brook is a nobody with no drawing power.
No name, no money, no Mayweather fight.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
If anyone that deserves to fight Mayweather, outside of a Manny rematch, it is Kell Brook.
If Porter had not lost to Brook, Porter would have been a shoe in. But that did not happen.
I don't see where Khan feels he deserves a shot over a Danny Garcia (a guy who knocked him spark out) or Lamont Peterson, the guy who beat him by a UD and a guy that was robbed in his fight with a guy that knocked Khan out in Garcia. I don't see, aside from name alone, how Khan feels he should get this fight CONSIDERING how he looked against Algieri.
Khan should fight Manny, if anything, if it's a payday he wants. Manny may not get him $20 mil, but he can rake in about $10 with a huge Manny fight. Even more if they fight in England.
Brook is the prime candidate for a Mayweather fight. No one else, in a fair and even an optical sense, makes sense.
Garcia did not knock Khan spark out. Khan was stopped.
Khan was winning the fight hands down till then. Khan is better boxer than Garcia and how Garcia stil has an '0' on his record is beyond me. He's been very lucky. Garcia Vs Mayweather ? Please. Danny Garcia is so slow he makes snails feel respected. He'd have no chance.
As for Peterson Vs Khan. That was one of the most disgracefuly ref-ed matches ever, what with Khan beind deducted two points and then afterwards, Peterson fessed up to using PED's.
Brook ? I thought he was lucky to beat Porter. It was a close fight but in close fights like that, the decision normally goes to the champion.
Put Brook in there with Maidana, see how he get's on
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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Dia bando
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g3org3
Khans a bigger name than brook and will obviously generate more money. Brook and Thurman very well might beat Khan but they have absolutely no chance or beating floyd. Out the 3 of them Khan is the only 1 who could beat floyd IMO and I hope floyd picks the easy fight with brook or Thurman.
Khan may be a bigger name, but is he a currant Champion NO, he had been KO twice his last
fight he hardly set the World alight did he.
Trouble with Khan is he is no welter weight, he will get sparked by the bigger punchers if he
faces Brook, Kell will get to him and KO Khan.;)
Bigger name = more money it's simple really. As for him not looking that great on his last fight he still won easy think I had it 9-3 or 8-4 and brooks last fight was against Gavin lol there's no way he should of been in the same ring as brook I actually felt sorry for Gavin watching the fight. I agree Kahn could get stopped by big punchers like Thurman etc but he's the only guy and I do mean only guy at 147 that's got a chance of beating floyd.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
Brook deserves it more yes. There are a LOT of fighters that deserve it more.
I still want Khan to get it.
Khan woul give Mayweather more trouble than Brook would, Brook is made perfect for Mayweather an it is a 120-108 fight.
Khan offers something a little different.
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Vendettos
Brook deserves it more yes. There are a LOT of fighters that deserve it more.
I still want Khan to get it.
Khan woul give Mayweather more trouble than Brook would, Brook is made perfect for Mayweather an it is a 120-108 fight.
Khan offers something a little different.
.... an exciting fight, relatively for Floyd, with a knockout on Khan. Which is not at all impossible.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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g3org3
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Dia bando
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g3org3
Khans a bigger name than brook and will obviously generate more money. Brook and Thurman very well might beat Khan but they have absolutely no chance or beating floyd. Out the 3 of them Khan is the only 1 who could beat floyd IMO and I hope floyd picks the easy fight with brook or Thurman.
Khan may be a bigger name, but is he a currant Champion NO, he had been KO twice his last
fight he hardly set the World alight did he.
Trouble with Khan is he is no welter weight, he will get sparked by the bigger punchers if he
faces Brook, Kell will get to him and KO Khan.;)
Bigger name = more money it's simple really. As for him not looking that great on his last fight he still won easy think I had it 9-3 or 8-4 and brooks last fight was against Gavin lol there's no way he should of been in the same ring as brook I actually felt sorry for Gavin watching the fight. I agree Kahn could get stopped by big punchers like Thurman etc but he's the only guy and I do mean only guy at 147 that's got a chance of beating floyd.
Of course it's about the money Khan has no chin does he, as I said he did not empress in his last fight
Brook is a good fighter, and a good Ingle fighter is very hard to beat.;)
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Brook does deserve to fight Floyd more than Khan. Boxing is not about deserve it is about being with the right promoter, politics and money.
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Does not matter because Brook will lose so one sided that we will hate the fight from the opening bell. Might as well keep cashing out because no one going to be happy with who he fights. The only person would be GGG but to be far GGG full blown mw most likely bigger then that.
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Dia bando
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g3org3
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Dia bando
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g3org3
Khans a bigger name than brook and will obviously generate more money. Brook and Thurman very well might beat Khan but they have absolutely no chance or beating floyd. Out the 3 of them Khan is the only 1 who could beat floyd IMO and I hope floyd picks the easy fight with brook or Thurman.
Khan may be a bigger name, but is he a currant Champion NO, he had been KO twice his last
fight he hardly set the World alight did he.
Trouble with Khan is he is no welter weight, he will get sparked by the bigger punchers if he
faces Brook, Kell will get to him and KO Khan.;)
Bigger name = more money it's simple really. As for him not looking that great on his last fight he still won easy think I had it 9-3 or 8-4 and brooks last fight was against Gavin lol there's no way he should of been in the same ring as brook I actually felt sorry for Gavin watching the fight. I agree Kahn could get stopped by big punchers like Thurman etc but he's the only guy and I do mean only guy at 147 that's got a chance of beating floyd.
Of course it's about the money Khan has no chin does he, as I said he did not empress in his last fight
Brook is a good fighter, and a good Ingle fighter is very hard to beat.;)
I honestly think people are a little hard on Khan for his chin he has took some monster shots I don't think his chin is the problem it's when he gets hurt he wants to trade and that's fucking nuts lol. Brook is a very good fighter but let's be real what's he going to do with floyd maybe win 2 or 3 rounds maximum that shits starting to get real boring.
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I totally disagree with this one. Khan's performance against Alexander was more impressive than Brook's over Porter. Brook - Porter was a very close fight. Khan totally dominated Alexander. And yes I'm aware that Porter beat Alexsnder.
Ignoring both their best wins, Khan's level of opposition is far greater. I don't know how anyone can argue with that. Carson Jones, Jojo Dan and Frankie Gavin are his best wins. He still has work to do before be is more deserving than Khan.
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ono
I totally disagree with this one. Khan's performance against Alexander was more impressive than Brook's over Porter. Brook - Porter was a very close fight. Khan totally dominated Alexander. And yes I'm aware that Porter beat Alexsnder.
Ignoring both their best wins, Khan's level of opposition is far greater. I don't know how anyone can argue with that. Carson Jones, Jojo Dan and Frankie Gavin are his best wins. He still has work to do before be is more deserving than Khan.
I would not call Brook-Porter a "close fight", more like a hotly contested fight. Brook never lost control of that fight at any time. Porter was game, but Brook had him all the way and won the fight the only way he could have.
Some times, close fights aren't really close. They may have good flashes of brilliance by both fighters, they may even have some moments when the eventual winner seems rocked and on the back foot. But when you weight it all out, it is more of a spirited contest than it was a close fight.
For another example, Ortiz/Berto was a close fight. Ortiz won by a thin decision. Oscar/Mosely was a hotly contested fight, where Mosely was just a little more up than Oscar was even though some may say that Oscar deserved the win just as much as Mosely did. But, really and truly, Mosely had controlled the fight from start to finish.
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ono
I totally disagree with this one. Khan's performance against Alexander was more impressive than Brook's over Porter. Brook - Porter was a very close fight. Khan totally dominated Alexander. And yes I'm aware that Porter beat Alexsnder.
Ignoring both their best wins, Khan's level of opposition is far greater. I don't know how anyone can argue with that. Carson Jones, Jojo Dan and Frankie Gavin are his best wins. He still has work to do before be is more deserving than Khan.
I would not call Brook-Porter a "close fight", more like a hotly contested fight. Brook never lost control of that fight at any time. Porter was game, but Brook had him all the way and won the fight the only way he could have.
Some times, close fights aren't really close. They may have good flashes of brilliance by both fighters, they may even have some moments when the eventual winner seems rocked and on the back foot. But when you weight it all out, it is more of a spirited contest than it was a close fight.
For another example, Ortiz/Berto was a close fight. Ortiz won by a thin decision. Oscar/Mosely was a hotly contested fight, where Mosely was just a little more up than Oscar was even though some may say that Oscar deserved the win just as much as Mosely did. But, really and truly, Mosely had controlled the fight from start to finish.
Well, scoring is subjective really anyway but I was surprised Brook got the verdict when I watched it. Partly because Porter was the house fighter, but also because there wasn't much in the fight. It ebbed and flowed. I think the majority of the press row had Brook winning. I think it was something like 49-9 with two scoring it a draw. Porter only landed 4 less punches and threw a lot more so looked the busier fighter throughout.
Regardless, I still think there was much more daylight between Khan and Alexander than there was between Brook and Porter. I don't think that can be argued. And despite what happened when Porter and Alexander fought, I do see them as being of similar standard - I think Porter's aggression was always going to allow him to outwork someone like Alexander.
So when you also take into consideration the remainder of their respective opposition, Khan has fought much stronger opposition.
That aside, I do think Brook beats Khan, but I also think Khan gives Mayweather more problems than Brook does. He won't come close to beating him, but his volume and speed will mean that Floyd had to work a little more than he likes to.
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Brook-Porter wasn't really that close unless you was scoring for Porter lunging forward, smothering his own work and wildly hitting air all night whilst constantly getting smacked in the mouth. Jim Watt was doing my head in scoring for Porter.
That win though trumps anything Khan has done at welter - although Khan's record is deeper overall, he's more "famous" and it would be nice for him to get the fight just so he shuts the fuck up about it.
Porter would beat Khan (imo). He wouldn't be strong enough to keep him at bay
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I don't think anyone would argue Brook has an awful resume. But he can bring the undisputed title if Floyd chooses to hold onto his belts. Going out the undisputed WW champion would be the best way by FAR for Floyd to go out if he wants to fight a WW. Legacy wise the only thing that could top it would be fighting GGG at MW. But the sport isn't about legacy sadly.
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Amir Khan says Floyd Mayweather Jr might dilute his own legacy | Boxing News | Sky Sports
Khan will try anything to lure Floyd into the ring. At the same time he keeps saying Brook doesn't deserve a fight with him (Khan). He also claims he knows what the fans want... and that's a fight between himself and Floyd.
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boxers are so interested in getting a fight that the fans will find shit
mayweather being as big as he is in america just shows how few elite american fighters there are
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ruthless rocco
tbe!!!!!!!!!!!
the bell end?
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"Deserving" has never been an ideal practiced by Floyd. @Fenster nailed it. Floyd is not taking any risks now and I'd even add Khan to that risk.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
Mayweather should be looking at taking away "0's".
That means Kell Brook, Keith Thurman, hell maybe even Danny Garcia.
Khan is yesterday's news.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
Floyd has been a safety first fighter both in the ring and in his choices (for the most part) for 16 years. He's at the end of his time and has noticeably slid. He's on the verge of tying Mariano's record and perhaps overtaking it. He's not going to chose to take a real risk or be concerned with someones 0.
He's in a bit of a quandary though because he will be remembered more for his 49th and perhaps 50th more then anything he did in the past so he may be forced to crap on my theory I suppose.
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IamInuit
Floyd has been a safety first fighter both in the ring and in his choices (for the most part) for 16 years. He's at the end of his time and has noticeably slid. He's on the verge of tying Mariano's record and perhaps overtaking it. He's not going to chose to take a real risk or be concerned with someones 0.
He's in a bit of a quandary though because he will be remembered more for his 49th and perhaps 50th more then anything he did in the past so he may be forced to crap on my theory I suppose.
Danny Garcia would be a pretty easy fight for him and probably one that could sell well. Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks so it would probably be a walk in the park over a really good fighter.
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Beanflicker
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IamInuit
Floyd has been a safety first fighter both in the ring and in his choices (for the most part) for 16 years. He's at the end of his time and has noticeably slid. He's on the verge of tying Mariano's record and perhaps overtaking it. He's not going to chose to take a real risk or be concerned with someones 0.
He's in a bit of a quandary though because he will be remembered more for his 49th and perhaps 50th more then anything he did in the past so he may be forced to crap on my theory I suppose.
Danny Garcia would be a pretty easy fight for him and probably one that could sell well. Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks so it would probably be a walk in the park over a really good fighter.
For sure. Thats who I thought it would be but the calenders don't match now. Porter could be ready for September. I think if he takes a guy like Porter then he's going for 50. I have to admitt that Floyd is all about the show so my theory that he goes out like a lamb may not be valid. The pressure here to go out like a lion has got to be the most he's had in his career.
You know how life is. Remembered for the last mistake. In many ways to historians and others his 18 years of being a pro and his domination will pale in comparison to how he goes out.
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Floyd needs to go out undefeated. Even if he lost his last fight at damn near 40, people would use that as a way to say his whole career was nonsense. If you're gonna play the villain you need to keep winning, Broner is feeling the repercussions of that now.
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Silly little imp
looks like a ch...., uhhh, pimp
he's a little wimp
living in the J...., uhhh, Bungle
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Beanflicker
Khan is yesterday's news.
Hmm... but what about Floyd's legacy? Khan says it will be diluted if Floyd doesn't fight him.
If I were Floyd I'd drop everything and make the fight this very instant.
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TitoFan
Hmm... but what about Floyd's legacy? Khan says it will be diluted if Floyd doesn't fight him.
If I were Floyd I'd drop everything and make the fight this very instant.
Yes! No man can call himself TBE without first conquering the mighty Khan!
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I think Floyd will fight Khan because he named 2 fighters that are trained by Khan's trainer. He is teasing khan.
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Sleepwalker
Kell must have a shitty management team. They should have been making some serious noise for months by now. Aside from observant boxing fans, no one has even heard of this guy, yet he is arguably the most bonafide welterweight in the world. As good as he is, he won't generate any interest from casual fans. They'll look at him as "just another opponent" along the lines of Guerrero and Ortiz.
They are doing virtually nothing to put his name out there.
If it were me, I would have showed up at Floyd's post-fight interview right after his win over Pac, ala Shane Mosley. Imagine the stir that would have created!! Shane HUSTLED his way into a big payday and it worked.
This is a narrative that was sold to the willing believers. But it simply isn't true. Floyd offered Shane the fight "keep running your mouth and I'll kick your ass before i kick your bosses ass" back in 2007. All witnesses say Shane promptly stopped talking because "he didn't want to interfere with Oscars fight". Fuck that, he backed away from a man, a boxer, challenging him when it was by far the biggest fight available to him. Before that Floyd offered him 6 million after he fought Vargas and Shane said that he had a vacation err a toothache and fought 1 month later for less than 2 million. Floyd has wanted Shane since his 2nd year as a pro. Truth is Shane got the fight when he did because he finally accepted it.