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James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
June 22, 1937
World Heavyweight Championship
Champion - James Braddock vs. Challenger - Joe Louis
~ The Skinny ~
James J. Braddock
Age ........... 32 years, 0 months
Height ....... 6' 2 1/2"
Reach ....... 75 1/2"
Weight....... 197 lbs.
Record....... 45-23-4 {26 KO's}
Stance ...... Orthodox
Style ......... Boxer/Counter-Puncher
* Braddock has gone unbeaten in his last '7-Bouts' {6-0-0} {with 1 'No Contest'} over the past 4-years.
* Braddock last 'lost' in June 1933.
* Braddock won the Championship on June 13, 1935.
* Braddock has not fought in 2-Years.
* As the World Champion, James Braddock opened up as a {3 1/2 to 1} {Betting-Underdog}.
* Heavy money was coming in on James Braddock late.
* By fight time, the odds had dropped to {2 to 1} with the Champion as the Underdog.
* Both former World Champions - Jack Dempsey and Gene Tunney felt that Braddock
was both the 'smarter' and more refined boxer, and looked to be in better physical shape.
* Braddock had looked great in sparring sessions, and looked to be in 'tip-top' shape.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Jou Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Monday ~ June 14, 1937
Grand Beach, Michigan
~ The Braddock Camp Talks Strategy ~
Sparring Partner - Jack McCarthy
Trainer - Doc Robb
Manager - Joe Gould
World Champion - James Braddock {by the Fireplace}
http://www.jamesjbraddock.com/images/braddock.gif
James Braddock has '4' sparring partners to work with;
* Henry Cooper
* Max Roesch
* Charles Massera
* Jack McCarthy
The food is prepared by Chef - Egon Bauer, and the Server - Peter Muck.
In the month of June {13-Days}, the 'Braddock Camp' has consumed
'65 Steaks', to go along with massive quantities of Orange Juice.
The Champion is working on 'defense' {blocking the left-hook}, as well as
working on delivering a quick right-hand counter.
Jack Kearns >
"There is nothing new that I haven't seen before. The Champion is a fine
technician, but he just does not have the strength to deal with Joe Louis."
"I'm sticking with my earlier prediction, of 'Louis by a Knockout'. I'm thinking
somewhere in Rounds 6, 7 or 8."
"Braddock can still be hit with a long right-hand, and that should scare both
his Manager and Trainer."
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
I saw Cinderella Man, Braddock had the bone density in his hands of a 90 year old woman.
Just another bum Joe Louis rolled over in his career of flattening bums. Joe Louis took out more bums than a street sweeper.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
I saw Cinderella Man, Braddock had the bone density in his hands of a 90 year old woman.
Just another bum Joe Louis rolled over in his career of flattening bums. Joe Louis took out more bums than a street sweeper.
"Ouch Mr. Bean"
James J. Braddock
By July 1929 >
James Braddock {Age; 24 years, 0 months} had posted a record of 30-3-3 with {21 KO's},
while moving into the #1 Challenger position for the World Light-Heavyweight
Championship.
After losing {L Dec 15} to Champion - Tommy Loughran on July 18, 1929 for the World
Light Heavyweight Championship >
James Braddock went into a 'tail-spin'.
From that point on, Braddock went a 'pathetic' 9-20-1 with only {4 KO's} in his next
'30-Bouts' over a 4-Year period.
By June 1933 >
James Braddock wasn't even called a 'Trial-Horse' anymore. The {Age; 28 year-old}
former Light-Heavyweight Title Challenger was now labeled as 'a taker and absorber',
and was pretty much written off as 'a bum' with a record of 39-23-4.
The only thing that Braddock had going for himself, was that he was 'durable' and only
had been floored 'twice' in '67-Bouts', and the only time he was stopped, was because
of a cut-eye.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
He was a tough guy who could take a punch. So was Joe Grim. Those guys are a dime a dozen!
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
~ Predictions ~
Jack Dempsey >
"I have to go with Braddock. He has more boxing ability, and he has the
experience. He'll box, and let Louis punch away and wear himself down.
I can see Braddock coming on down the stretch to win a 'close' Decision."
Gene Tunney >
"I have changed my mind. Louis has too much punching-power. He's both
young and strong. I'm not sure that the Champion {James Braddock} can
hold him back. I'll take the Challenger by a Knockout, most likely by
Round 10."
Max Baer >
"Braddock is a tricky sort, and he's tough as nails. But that Louis, boy can
he punch. If he traps Jimmy, it will be all over. I like both fellows, so I will
not pick a winner."
The Odds >
Bounced back and forth, going from {5 to 2}, all the way up to {4 to 1}
before fight time.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Predictions {Chicago tribune Sports Writers}
Harold Conrad >
"This Louis fellow. He's like a 'Tan Tarzan'. He's both muscular and flexible.
Now the Champion {James Braddock} is no softy, but he is going to get
knocked out. I have to go with what the consensus says, Joe Louis by
a Knockout. {KO in 8}."
Arch Ward >
"Joe Louis by Knockout. Within 6-Rounds. If it goes longer, I will eat my hat."
Frank Lane >
"James Braddock by a Knockout in 8. I'm not all that excited about this man they
call 'The Brown Bomber'. He's on the slow side, and he's too mechanical. The
Champion {James Braddock} will set him up, and catch him coming in with a
right-hand to the chops and stop him."
Wilfrid Smith >
"I know that Braddock is superbly conditioned. But this kid {Joe Louis} throws
punches like a 'Cannon' going off. He's just too powerful. The Challenger by a
Knockout in 6."
Red Garrett >
"If Joe Louis loses, then he must be the 'most overrated' fighter ever. The Champion
{James Braddock} is a quality fighter, but he really is 'untested' at Heavyweight. Oh,
he will give a good account of himself for as long-as-it-lasts. But the Challenger has
too much ammunition. I'm confident that Joe Louis will win by a stoppage. It will
go no longer than 9-Rounds. I can see Braddock's corner throwing in the towel."
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Braddock had a deal where he took a percentage of Joe's title defences, which was a good move if what unethical.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
Braddock had a deal where he took a percentage of Joe's title defences, which was a good move if what unethical.
That Is Correct,
World Champion - James Braddock and Manager - Joe Gould.
Joe Gould {Manager} inked a great deal for James Braddock.
http://www.josportsinc.com/item_images/1314739795.jpg
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
That deal is as good as a dive. Disgraceful.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
That deal is as good as a dive. Disgraceful.
~ The Skinny ~
James Braddock didn't hit the 'Lottery Wheel', but what he got from Joe Louis' future take.
* 10% of his Fight Purse per Year for 10-Years {1937 thru 1946}.
* But, no more than $15,000 per Year.
All in all, James Braddock got another $150,000 over 10-years.
But, Braddock had to give his Manager 30% off that.
Plus Braddock had to pay 'Taxes' on that 'pay out' as Income.
Joe Gould {Manager for James Baddock} 'snuffed' Julian Black {Manager for Joe Louis}
in what Sean Connery called it ......."That's the Chicago Way"
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
~ More Skinny ~
Part I
On February 4, 1937
Joe Gould {Manager for James Braddock} nearly signed a deal for his fighter
to defend against Max Schmeling on June 3, 1937 at Madison Square Garden.
But the concern was, that the early Gate Receipt 'estimates' were only around
$250,000.
Also, the Joe Louis Camp was worried that 'if' Max Schmeling won, he would
take the World Championship back to Germany, and hold it in 'protective custody'
for 2-Years {until 1939}.
There was also concern, that the World Championship would be used as 'a vehicle'
for Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Propaganda Machine.
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Part II
The Joe Louis Camp was willing to 'play-ball' to get 'The Brown Bomber' a Title
chance first, and before Max Schmeling could steal it away from James Braddock
and bring it back to Germany.
On February 19, 1937 >
Chicago Fight Promoter - Joe Folley put together an incredible deal for the World
Champion - James Braddock.
First > The bout would be held at Comiskey Park in Chicago on June 22, 1937.
Second > The estimated Gate Receipts would be close to $1,000,000.
Third > James Braddock was to receive {67 1/2 %} of the Gate Receipts, and
with a 'minimum guarantee' of $500,000.
Fourth > James Braddock would receive 50% of the Motion Picture rights, and
Broadcasting rights.
Fifth > James Braddock would receive 10% of Joe Louis' future purses for the
next 10-Years. {Capped at $15,000 per Year}.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
James Braddock
'1937' Sparring Partners
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* Jack McCarthy ~ {Age; 27} ~ 6' 4" ~ 202 lbs. ~ {Roxbury, Massachusetts}
* Record > 16-14-2 {8 KO's}
Jack was a long-time friend of James Braddock. McCarthy was a durable-type who
was a good gym sparring partner. Labeled as a 'real tough-guy'.
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* Max 'Maxie' Roesch ~ {Age; 23} ~ 6' 4" ~ 195 lbs. ~ {Dallas, Texas}
* Record > 9-3-1 {6 KO's}
'Maxie' was a speed-boxer, who had good footwork and decent power. He was brought
in to 'primarily' help with Braddock's speed and timing.
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* Charlie Massera~ {Age; 27} ~ 6' 2" ~ 190 lbs. ~ {Upper Darby, Pennsylvania}
* Record > 35-17-5 {11 KO's}
Charlie was brought in to pretty much be a 'punching bag', to give James Braddock
'Rounds-in-the-Ring' to work off the rust.
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* Henry Cooper ~ {Age; 20} ~ 6' 1' ~ 185 lbs. ~ {Brooklyn, New York}
* Record > 15-6-1 {4 KO's}
Henry was brought in because he had a good looping right-hand, much like the
Challenger - Joe Louis. Henry was a young kid, who was a decent boxer with good
hand-speed. Though, he had little power.
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* Bill Irby ~ {Age; 21} ~ 6' 0" ~ 180 lbs. ~ {Brooklyn, New York}
* Record > 0-7-1 {0 KO's}
Bill Irby was brought in to be nothing more than a body, to give James Braddock rounds.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Joe Louis
1937 Sparring Partners
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* Roy Lazer ~ {Age; 25} ~ 6' 1" ~ 190 lbs. ~ {Paterson, New Jersey}
* Record > 45-7-3 {19 KO's}
Strictly a boxer/mover, and also a good counter-puncher. Brought in to help with
Joe's footwork.
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George Williams ~ {Age; 22} ~ 6' 5" ~ 220 lbs. ~ {Chicago, Illinois}
* Record > 5-0-0 {3 KO's}
Called 'The Giant Negro'. A big, young and strapping prospect. Strictly used as a mauler,
to help Joe with stamina and endurance.
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Tiger Hairston ~ {Age; 24} ~ 6' 1" ~ 180 lbs. ~ {Wheeling, West Virginia}
Record > 22-4-2 {12 KO's}
A good boxer/puncher, who had quick hands and slick footwork. He was used to help
Joe in 'Cutting-off-the-Ring', and setting traps.
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Salvatore Ruggirello ~ {Age; 31} ~ 6' 1" ~ 200 lbs. ~ {Tunis, Tunisia}
Record > 29-52-0 {23 KO's}
Called, the Italian 'Bocce Ball'. A durable punching-bag. Used to give Joe 'Rounds in the Ring'.
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George Higgs ~ {Age; 22} ~ 6' 2 1/2"" ~ 170 lbs. ~ {Florida, by way of New York City}
Record > 3-5-1 {2 KO's}
Nothing more than a body, to help with Joe's timing and left-jab. Was tall enough to present
someone like Braddock's height.
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George 'Nickels' Nicholson ~ {Age; 24} ~ 6' 1" ~ 192 lbs. ~ {Yonkers, New York}
Record > 6-4-0 {5 KO's}
Another young 'body' to take punishment.
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Leonard 'Tree' Dixon ~ {Age; 29} ~ 6' 7" ~ 215 lbs. ~ {Philadelphia, Pennsylvania}
Record > 14-14-1 {8 KO's}
A tall fighter, who had long arms. Another fighter to imitate the tall stance of James Braddock,
to help Joe Louis with his left-jab.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
Braddock had a deal where he took a percentage of Joe's title defences, which was a good move if what unethical.
What the fuck? No wonder Joe Louis went bankrupt so quick. He possibly had the worst management in boxing history.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
I'm surprised Mayweather hasn't put a clause like that into his contracts.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
Braddock had a deal where he took a percentage of Joe's title defences, which was a good move if what unethical.
What the fuck? No wonder Joe Louis went bankrupt so quick. He possibly had the worst management in boxing history.
Joe Louis with Manager > Julian Black
Julian Black a former 'Numbers Runner' and 'Card Shark' from Chicago, signed Joe Louis
to a 10-Year Contract in 1934.
Julian Black received 25% of everything that Joe Louis 'made'.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
I like James Braddock, but he did lose 24 times in his career. Louis did say that Braddock was the gamest fighter he ever fought.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Quote:
Originally Posted by
mrbig1
I like James Braddock, but he did lose 24 times in his career. Louis did say that Braddock was the gamest fighter he ever fought.
In late-1933,
James Braddock was considered 'washed up' at {Age; 28} with a record > 39-23-4.
His Manager {Joe Gould} couldn't even get him fights anymore, even while 'begging'
for scraps {$250 to $300} per bout.
Braddock had a 'problematic' right-hand that he fractured several times. And his left-arm
had developed the early stages of 'arthritis', preventing Braddock from fully extending his arm.
He was a true Second-Rate 'Ham-N-Egger'.
The only thing he had going, was that he was 'tough' and could take a good beating.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
That photo of Joe Louis looks cool playing cards.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
That photo of Joe Louis looks cool playing cards.
That was in March 1937 {Joe Louis and Manager; Julian Black}.
Julian Black had set Joe up with a 'Barnstorming Boxing Exhibition' for Colorado, Utah
and Southern California.
They were expecting Joe Louis to reel in $20,000 for a 4-Week Tour.
It started off well, as they pulled in {6000 spectators} in Denver.
But in San Diego, they were expecting {6000 spectators} but only {3000}
turned out to see Joe box with '3' Sparring-Partners.
In another Southern California Exhibition, only {1000} turned out to watch Joe
perform in a 3850-seat Arena.
It was a costly tour, as the 'Railway' travel bill alone was $5500 for the entourage,
plus $2000 for Sparring-Partners, and another $1000 for 'lavish living'.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
~ Pre-Fight Reporting ~
James Braddock
The Heavyweight Champion was taking this fight with intense seriousness. Despite being
idle for 2-years, Braddock {Age; 32} was in the finest physical condition he had ever been
in.
What his Trainer- Doc Robb did, was feed Braddock heavily, to get him up to 215 lbs. during
February and March. Then they brought Braddock up to Stone Lake, Wisconsin - before
opening up his 'regular' Training Camp.
Braddock then spent 3-Weeks chopping logs with an Axe for 2-Hour intervals, 3-times a day.
Also, Braddock was doing 5-Mile Runs each day.
At the end of 3-Weeks, no longer was Braddock a 'thin-legged' gangling-boxer at 185 lbs. Now
he was 195+ lbs. and finely chiseled.
Only 3-years earlier {June 1934}, Braddock {Age; 29} was a near-starving 180 lb. spindly-legged
former washed-up Light-Heavyweight.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
June 10, 1937
James Braddock
The World Champion went 5-Rounds with '5' different sparring partners today. The Champion
was working on left-hands to the body, and 'lumped-up' each of his over-matched gym mates.
Braddook looked sharp, and his footwork was excellent. Afterwards, Braddock took a brisk
5-Mile run, and then was back in the Gym doing some light calisthenics.
Doc Robb {Trainer} >
"We know that the only way Jim can win, is to be in the finest physical condition. We are
working on body-punching, as we believe we can wear Joe Louis down some."
"If we get by the 9th Round, the fight will be ours. I don't think that Joe Louis is built
for the long-haul. He's not an endurance Horse, he's a 'sprinter' who is dangerous over
the first half."
"We just have to be patient and cautious. We can do that be keeping a left-hand in Louis'
face, and keep him off-balance."
~ The James Braddock Team ~
Jack McCarthy ~ Charley Massera ~ Doc Robb ~ James Braddock ~ Joe Gould ~ Bill Irby ~ Max Roesch
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Tale of the Tape
.....................James Braddock ............ Joe Louis
Age ................... 32 years, 0 months ..... 23 years, 1 month
Height ............... 6' 2 1/2" .................... 6' 2"
Weight .............. 197 lbs. ..................... 197 1/2 lbs.
Reach ................ 75 1/2" ...................... 76"
Chest {Norm} ..... 41" ........................... 41"
Chest {Exp} ........ 44" ........................... 44"
Biceps ................ 13" ........................... 14"
Forearm ............. 12 1/2" ..................... 12 1/2"
Waist ................. 34 1/2" ..................... 34"
Neck .................. 17" ........................... 16 1/2'
Thigh ................. 22 3/4" ..................... 21"
Ankle ................. 10" ........................... 10"
Calf ................... 16" ........................... 15"
Wrist ................... 8" ............................ 8"
Fist .................... 11 1/2" .................... 11"
Record .............. 45-23-4 .................... 33-1-0
Knockouts ......... {26} ......................... {26}
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Observers noted in Pre-Fight Training Camp
Joe Louis
* Was slow of foot.
* Had fast-hands, and could unleash a '2-Punch' combination with precision.
* Somewhat 'lackadaisical' in sparring sessions.
* Losing interest, as he appeared over-confident.
* Regarded the Champion {James Braddock} as a below average fighter.
* Joe Louis has gotten used to the good living, and he has lost the 'zest' for fighting.
* Appeared lazy in many of the Training sessions.
* Was 'late' in firing off his counter-punches.
* Missed with many of his punches.
* Looked 'stale' and sluggish.
* Some Boxing Pundits were already labeling Joe Louis as the World's Greatest Heavyweight.
* He being compared to James J. Jeffries, who many considered the Greatest Heavyweight.
* Joe Louis stated that after he won the Title, he had plans of retiring by the end of 1938.
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Sunday ~ June 13, 1937
Municipal Stadium ~ Kenosha, Wisconsin
~ Joe Louis Still Has Punch, As 1800 Turn Out For Sparring Exhibition ~
Joe Louis went 8-Rounds with '4' different sparring partners today. The Heavyweight Challenger
has now put in '91-Rounds' in 15-Days of sparring.
Today, Louis sparred with;
* George Williams
* Tiger Hairston
* George Nicholson
* Leonard 'Tree' Dixon - {6' 7"}
In his session with the 'long and tall' Dixon, Joe Louis 'floored' his sparring-mate with a 'dynamite'
right-hand to the chin.
This was Joe Louis' {21st-Knockdown} that he has registered in sparring.
The Challenger plans to go 8-Rounds on {Tuesday ~ Thursday ~ Saturday ~ Sunday}. That will
give the eager fighter '123-Rounds' of sparring in preparation of his Title Challenge for the World
Championship set for June 22nd.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
The Boxing Pundits
Despite the acceptance that Joe Louis was the 'Greatest Heavyweight in the World' at the time,
he was 'not' the outright choice by the Sportswriters.
And despite the 'knock' on the Champion - James Braddock > that he was 'not really that good',
'The Cinderella man' had many supporters.
~ Poll of '55' Sportswriters ~
Joe Louis .............. '33' picked the Challenger to win. With '22' by way of Knockout
James Braddock .... '22' picked the Champion to win. With '5' by way of Knockout.
Damon Runyon
Joe Louis is too much of a 'punching machine'. And though the Champion is a real
battle-tested' veteran, he has no chance.
Joe Louis by Knockout in 7.
Harry McLemore
James Braddock is way too smart for the Challenger. He's in fine physical condition, and that
will be the difference.
James Braddock by 15-Round Decision.
Nat Fleischer
Joe Louis is an easy pick here. He'll do it in the 6th Round. Braddock comes straight in, and
is willing to trade. That will be his downfall..
Bill Corum
The Challenger has the left-hook, and the straight right. Louis is too young, too strong
and punches too hard.
Joe Louis in less than 5 Rounds.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Anyone know the truth behind how Braddock got a piece of a lot of Joe Louis fights. They made mention of it in the movie Cinderella man. I think I could look it up but @Bill Paxtom will probably have a better answer
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bill Paxtom
~ More Skinny ~
Part I
On February 4, 1937
Joe Gould {Manager for James Braddock} nearly signed a deal for his fighter
to defend against Max Schmeling on June 3, 1937 at Madison Square Garden.
But the concern was, that the early Gate Receipt 'estimates' were only around
$250,000.
Also, the Joe Louis Camp was worried that 'if' Max Schmeling won, he would
take the World Championship back to Germany, and hold it in 'protective custody'
for 2-Years {until 1939}.
There was also concern, that the World Championship would be used as 'a vehicle'
for Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Propaganda Machine.
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Part II
The Joe Louis Camp was willing to 'play-ball' to get 'The Brown Bomber' a Title
chance first, and before Max Schmeling could steal it away from James Braddock
and bring it back to Germany.
On February 19, 1937 >
Chicago Fight Promoter - Joe Folley put together an incredible deal for the World
Champion - James Braddock.
First > The bout would be held at Comiskey Park in Chicago on June 22, 1937.
Second > The estimated Gate Receipts would be close to $1,000,000.
Third > James Braddock was to receive {67 1/2 %} of the Gate Receipts, and
with a 'minimum guarantee' of $500,000.
Fourth > James Braddock would receive 50% of the Motion Picture rights, and
Broadcasting rights.
Fifth > James Braddock would receive 10% of Joe Louis' future purses for the
next 10-Years. {Capped at $15,000 per Year}.
~ The Contract ~
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bill Paxtom
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bill Paxtom
~ More Skinny ~
Part I
On February 4, 1937
Joe Gould {Manager for James Braddock} nearly signed a deal for his fighter
to defend against Max Schmeling on June 3, 1937 at Madison Square Garden.
But the concern was, that the early Gate Receipt 'estimates' were only around
$250,000.
Also, the Joe Louis Camp was worried that 'if' Max Schmeling won, he would
take the World Championship back to Germany, and hold it in 'protective custody'
for 2-Years {until 1939}.
There was also concern, that the World Championship would be used as 'a vehicle'
for Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Propaganda Machine.
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Part II
The Joe Louis Camp was willing to 'play-ball' to get 'The Brown Bomber' a Title
chance first, and before Max Schmeling could steal it away from James Braddock
and bring it back to Germany.
On February 19, 1937 >
Chicago Fight Promoter - Joe Folley put together an incredible deal for the World
Champion - James Braddock.
First > The bout would be held at Comiskey Park in Chicago on June 22, 1937.
Second > The estimated Gate Receipts would be close to $1,000,000.
Third > James Braddock was to receive {67 1/2 %} of the Gate Receipts, and
with a 'minimum guarantee' of $500,000.
Fourth > James Braddock would receive 50% of the Motion Picture rights, and
Broadcasting rights.
Fifth > James Braddock would receive 10% of Joe Louis' future purses for the
next 10-Years. {Capped at $15,000 per Year}.
~ The Contract ~
sounds like Joe was taken advantage of in many ways. I like Braddock but reaching into another man's purse to such an extent don't sound right to me.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Well to be fair Louis was lucky to get the shot after getting his ass fucking kicked in by Max i mean come on now he was owned and got the shot. I say take advantage and there nothing unethical about it Louis lost so he had to make some sacrifices to get the hw belt and he did.
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mr140
Well to be fair Louis was lucky to get the shot after getting his ass fucking kicked in by Max i mean come on now he was owned and got the shot. I say take advantage and there nothing unethical about it Louis lost so he had to make some sacrifices to get the hw belt and he did.
This Is True
Madison Square Garden was in the middle of putting together a James Braddock vs. Max Schmeling
bout.
Then the Chicago Connection slipped in, and offered Joe Gould {Manager for James Braddock}
'a sweetheart deal' to by-pass the Title Fight with Max Schmeling.
It was all about .......'The Money'
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
~ Gate Receipts ~
Attendance ............. 41,684
Gross Receipts ........ $715,420
Net Receipts ........... $593,380 {After State and Federal Taxes}
Fight Purses
James Braddock ...... $296,960 {After Taxes}
Joe Louis ................ $115,125 {After Taxes}
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
Joe never paid his taxes. ;)
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Re: James Braddock vs. Joe Louis ~ June 22, 1937 ~ 'The Skinny'
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Originally Posted by
Master
Joe never paid his taxes. ;)
You may have pulled 'a full boner' here Master.
Joe Louis' taxes were automatically taken out in his bout with James Braddock.
That is how the Fight Contract was written.
Joe was 'safe' on this one.
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