I think Joshua would easily win by stoppage, now or in the future.
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I think Joshua would easily win by stoppage, now or in the future.
Deontay by KO
No idea, almost impossible to call based on the opponents Joshua has faced combined with the fact that he clearly could spark Wilder out. One of them is flattened pretty early though, would be my guess.
Joshua would KO him inside 3 rounds (if Joshua has a decent chin)
AJ def has more power and a better Arsenal of punches up close.
Molina came to fight, did not quit at the first possible opportunity, was not overawed by the guy he was in the ring with and actually exchanged meaningful punches with Wilder. Joshua hasn't fought anybody like that yet.
Having said that I think Joshua would have had Molina out of there in a couple of rounds.
I think when they eventually fight Joshua sparks Wilder. If Molina can wobble him, Joshua has the height, reach and definitely the power to spark him and I'm going to go out on a very big limb and say he can take a punch too.
Gun to my head Id pick Joshua, but I don't see how anyone could be confident in that, we have no idea what he can take. Wilder has holes, but he's still a beast and would be an enormous step up. I don't think comparing any respective performances even means much here, it's a kill or be killed fight. I would say that if the fight went past 3 or 4 rounds Joshua should clearly have it though.
I know he's untested but I agree, AJ seems a nice guy but has got a nasty streak in him and he admits it, he's fucking solid too and will look a total cunt if he's chinny and the next David Price. 😊
You just the feeling now he's the real deal and I think he can unify and keep it that way for a goo few years afterwards.
On the basis that he has comparable power, and he pretty much does everything else better, i'd say AJ. The only thing Wilder has is experience. And even that has only really come in his last two fights.
Providing AJ is fit enough to last the distance and is able to take a half decent shot, he walks through anyone other than Wlad in my opinion.
This should be a blow out one way or another. Both are huge punchers and both know how to finish off an opponent.
This isn't a case of whoever lands first wins ..... It's a case of the least tentative guy winning!!
I do think Joshua is more technically accomplished of the two, but Brits shouldn't kid themselves into thinking that Joshua has fought anyone remotely as good as Molina (and he wasn't great was he)
If you asked me right now, I'd have to go with AJ just because he looks like the complete package. As has been said though, Joshua hasn't fought anyone who is going to hit him back so I really don't know. I like Deontay Wilder, I really want him to succeed as the world needs America to be interested in the Heavyweight division again. But he has to fix his defence backing up or he'll get sparked sooner rather than later.
I think Joshua would beat him. David Price could beat him too I think. Joshua would have got rid of Molina in 2 or 3 yesterday
Can't really write off Wilder for 1 bad performance, I am sure Joshua will have his bad nights in the future as well. Price has had his bad nights already, to the point where some are ready to write him off.
Deontay Wilder IS letting fans (and opponents) see more of him, he's fought as many rounds in his last 2 fights (21) as he has in the 10 fights prior to those (21). Wilder has stepped up competition but also competition has stepped up to Wilder. Molina apparently gave a good account of himself and he as well as Stiverne may have laid the foundation for beating Wilder in the future.
If Wilder is to stay champ he will have to learn from experiences like this. If Povetkin can slip and counter (which he'll have to be in range to do) then that will be a VERY interesting fight.
See this is what I'm worried about. Povetkin has power and will hit Wilder. He needs to tighten up that defence soon before that fight so I would be getting him another outing before then.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
The question is who would win between Wilder & Joshua now. I don't think you can write Wilder off, but you can say he'd lose if he showed up like that for AJ. I have no doubt he'll be better than that by the time AJ reaches that level.
Wilder knocks him out. Joshua ain't even fought anyone ass good as Molina or Stiverne
I don't think AJ can last 3 rounds, tell that kid that he better stay home.
Joshua in a year or two but right now i would have to pick wilder if I was putting money on it.
What makes Molina better than Johnson? The only other rated fighter he fought demolished him. His last fight before Wilder he beat Raphael Zumbano Love in eight rounds, the same bloke Joshua ironed out last month inside 4 minutes.
Molina wouldn't last two rounds with Joshua even fighting to survive like he did against Wilder.
In fact Joshua is a decent win away from having comparable form to Wilder.
Depends on Joshua's chin, if it's decent then I pick him to stop Wilder and if it's shit then it's a pick 'em with either guy able to knock the other out. Depends who lands the big shot first.
Taking shit chins out of the equation then I pick Joshua because he just seems like the better fighter with better fundamentals.
Too much unknown at the moment. The dynamic is great though, one likes to box/punch from range and the other likes it a bit closer, so would be the stalker - a lot depends on Wilder's ability dissuade Joshua, which of course depends solely on Joshua's chin, I'm sure Wilder will find it. If we assume he has a reliable chin and the ability to fight effectively past 6 rounds then I think he beats Wilder to a standstill.
If not then he gets dropped and stopped.
Don't agree with all this "Joshua's beard has to past the test" stuff. It'll be his ability to avoid getting chinned which will determine his level of success.
Giant hitters like Wilder and Price and Wlad could iron out anyone. It doesn't mean you have a china chin.
We always tend to ask for too much, always after the perfect package. It's heavyweight boxing and all it takes is one decent clump on the chin. Our current proper World heavyweight champion and one of the most dominant figures in the sport over the last decade has been knocked senseless plenty enough to endorse that.
Well, I am thinking that stylistically, Joshua has a chance of getting tagged first and/ or if not more often (I don't see him as elusive), hence why I figure the chin thing is a major factor, especially against a long rangy banger like Wilder.
Wilder would beat AJ by taking him past 4 rounds and stopping him. Too quick too soon for AJ.
It's impossible to say. Joshua hasn't been tested at all and hasn't faced a puncher. So far Joshua has been able to walk straight through everyone he's fought. Until we see him fight someone with power who he needs to be wary of, we've no idea how savvy he is or how he would approach a dangerous opponent.
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Yes I agree with that 100%
Both at this point. But I'll tell you one thing...Joshua has the set and future between the two :-X Far better self awareness and skill
There is no hurry AJ has time on his side, Wilder on the other hand would surprise he was still
Champ this time next year.