that psychotic white racist piece of human garbage is no less a hateful destructive homicidal maniac then one of those idiots who straps a bomb vest on and blows up 10 people in a cafe.
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that psychotic white racist piece of human garbage is no less a hateful destructive homicidal maniac then one of those idiots who straps a bomb vest on and blows up 10 people in a cafe.
Agreed....and?
America never seizes to baffle me with its refusal to ban guns.
On one hand they are among one of the most civilised countries on the planet....
On the other hand simply thick as shit as a country....
I actually wonder if they even realise how the rest of the world view them 😉
It's Dylann Roof, please be respectful to Mr. Roof.
When he is sentenced will he get protection from the white supremacist neo nazi prisoners?
He'll probably get binned off to a nut house with a 5 star cell living it up with all the nonces
Despite the feelings of the community I would be surprised if the feds don't go after the death penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I'm really amazed at the level of spoken "forgiveness" by some of the relatives.
Not sure I could ever get to that.
You know when you have 300 million people and a half a billion guns because everyone is born with some cartoon like right to own one and given the complexity of the species and its fragility conjoined with the last 200 years of history, this craziness almost does not even surprise me anymore. Its almost become routine or expected. And the semantics my lord the semantics.
now the Muslim governments can point and say 'Look you fucking bastards have the same problem in your country!'Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Muslims are still the reigning, defending, undisputed heavyweight champions of terrorism. They have the market pretty much cornered.
I've been getting a little steamed, a little hot under the collar about all the liberal, "white guilt" driven nonsense I've been reading since this attack about how us white folk are so quick to label Muslims as terrorists, while being apprehensive to put the label on a white guy. It's nonsense! The fact is, Islamic terrorists go out of their way to label themselves as terrorists! Yeah we can label this guy and Timothy McVeigh as terrorists, but let's not forget who the true enemy is.
Muslims are to terrorism what black people are to basketball... and it's not racist, it's the truth!
But the funny thing is look who is buying most of the bullets or selling all the gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
dylan storm roof
what a fucking loser
Yes he is one terrorist to the Millions of Muslim terrorists -
Al shabaab
Al queda
Isis
All are scum.
We really don't care how your country or any others view us. We've fought for and EARNED our right to govern as WE see fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
You lot banned guns but still had the Cumbria shootings, France banned guns they had Charlie Hebdo, Norway had their nutjob gunman. Tragedies happen but they are happening less often.
Cartoon like? Are you signed up for a draft? I am and it is the LAW...sorry if the government holds that power the least I should be able to do is own firearms to protect myself, my family, and my property not to mention hunting or recreation.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Yeah, I keep seeing people say what the OP did as if they are making some kind of profound statement. Baffling.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
It enrages me that journalists and politicians will bend over backwards to say "not all Muslims" after terrorist attacks but this sort of tragedy occurs and it's "ALL" gun owners, "ALL" white people, "ALL" Southerners....no Dylann Roof is scum and he doesn't speak for gun owners, white people, or Southerners. He was twisted by the media, bravo to them for constantly stirring up crap for ratings.
Dylann Roof deserves death, he has earned no forgiveness but God bless those with souls strong enough to freely give that.
Hmmmm that's a good point!Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Blanket statements are bad... unless of course they're aimed at whitey. :rolleyes:
Listen world... it ain't whitey... it ain't whitey.
Fact is... 9 black people got shot by a white guy. It sucks, it's sad, it's a tragedy, and I think they should kill Dylann Roof because he's a piece of shit no good motherfucker.
But how many black people will get gunned down by other blacks this weekend? And next weekend? How about tomorrow?
It ain't whitey... nah, it ain't whitey...
You 2 need counselling.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerHmmmm that's a good point!Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Blanket statements are bad... unless of course they're aimed at whitey. :rolleyes:
Listen world... it ain't whitey... it ain't whitey.
Fact is... 9 black people got shot by a white guy. It sucks, it's sad, it's a tragedy, and I think they should kill Dylann Roof because he's a piece of shit no good motherfucker.
But how many black people will get gunned down by other blacks this weekend? And next weekend? How about tomorrow?
It ain't whitey... nah, it ain't whitey...
They have a point , Islam is committing terrorism in a number of places in the name of religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou 2 need counselling.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerHmmmm that's a good point!Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Blanket statements are bad... unless of course they're aimed at whitey. :rolleyes:
Listen world... it ain't whitey... it ain't whitey.
Fact is... 9 black people got shot by a white guy. It sucks, it's sad, it's a tragedy, and I think they should kill Dylann Roof because he's a piece of shit no good motherfucker.
But how many black people will get gunned down by other blacks this weekend? And next weekend? How about tomorrow?
It ain't whitey... nah, it ain't whitey...
I don't see many people condoning the shootings in the black church , howeVer we have people like chowdry on the streets of Britain preaching hate. I am sick and tired of Islam in the civilised world , if you done like the western world then fuck off to Saudi Arabia.
Good point and very reasonable request. I don't want to live in Saudi because I have certain innate beliefs and feelings about the way people should be treated and life should be lived, and the Muslims don't share my beliefs. Which is fine, but I'm not going to go over there and tell them how they should do things. They wouldn't listen to me, so why should these fucks come over and try to spread their shit here? Islam and the west are like oil and water. They don't believe in our conventions and our way of life so how about they stay where their views and ideas are celebrated?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
There's a lot of double standards, bro!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Yes cartoon like. Might as well have a law based on cave drawings. This is not some made up left or right issue. This is a common sense issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongCartoon like? Are you signed up for a draft? I am and it is the LAW...sorry if the government holds that power the least I should be able to do is own firearms to protect myself, my family, and my property not to mention hunting or recreation.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
You have serious issues if all you see is white people getting bashed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerThere's a lot of double standards, bro!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I never said that's all I see or that's all there is, I'm just saying there's a lot of double standards and hidden agendas out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou have serious issues if all you see is white people getting bashed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerThere's a lot of double standards, bro!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
White cop shoots a black man, it's the top news story for months. Black cop shoots a white man and you don't hear about it. White guy goes into a church and guns down 9 black people, and we'll be hearing about this for the rest of the year. 50 black people get gunned down in a Chicago weekend, and it's a 30 second blurb on the news.
A muslim commits a massacre and we're tripping over our own feet to tell everyone how Islam is the religion of peace and perpetrator is in no way an indication of a growing problem of Islamic extremist violence. A white guy commits a massacre, and like Kabong said it's presented like every gun owner is a potential mass murderer, or if it's race-related that racism is a widespread problem among whitey and we all have a bit of it in us.
Personally I don't hate anyone, I just think it's a shame white people are so scared to speak open and honestly about issues involving race, immigration, ect. The black community has a lot of problems. The Islamic community has a lot of problems. Doesn't make me a racist or crazy person to point it out IMO.
@El Kabong<br />
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Do you think your country should ban guns like we have in the UK?<br />
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Do you think it would reduce the amount of gun crime in the USA?
Americans, I think---me being one of them---think it is a no-brainer @El Kabong @Beanflicker
No matter how much 'safer' America might be (and there is no proof of it) if guns were restricted or banned, the larger issue here for Americans is that we are guaranteed the right in our constitution, and no amount of safety measures is going to trump our constitutional right.
Because ONCE YOU CURTAIL a constitutional right, then where does it stop after that????
It would be a precedent, and then the flood gates are opened, and ANY constitutional right could be taken away JUST THE SAME under the justification that it is "for the public safety" or for "the greater good", etc.
You just talk in generalisations ' I am sick and tired of Islam in the civilised world , if you done like the western world then fuck off to Saudi Arabia'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlThey have a point , Islam is committing terrorism in a number of places in the name of religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou 2 need counselling.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerHmmmm that's a good point!Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Blanket statements are bad... unless of course they're aimed at whitey. :rolleyes:
Listen world... it ain't whitey... it ain't whitey.
Fact is... 9 black people got shot by a white guy. It sucks, it's sad, it's a tragedy, and I think they should kill Dylann Roof because he's a piece of shit no good motherfucker.
But how many black people will get gunned down by other blacks this weekend? And next weekend? How about tomorrow?
It ain't whitey... nah, it ain't whitey...
I don't see many people condoning the shootings in the black church , howeVer we have people like chowdry on the streets of Britain preaching hate. I am sick and tired of Islam in the civilised world , if you done like the western world then fuck off to Saudi Arabia.
Plenty of Muslims live peacefully and happily in the west. Yet you don't say 'I am sick and tired of those that preach hate/hate the west' or something similar. You say 'sick and tired of Islam' as if they are all the same. Typical ignorance and fully expected.
You hate all Muslims as you have said before.
Is there anyone, or anything in this world that you have a good word to say about?
Muslim extremist, white extremists, Irish extremist is just that, the extreme in a group so stop generalising to suit your hidden agenda.
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Originally Posted by ryanmanYou just talk in generalisations ' I am sick and tired of Islam in the civilised world , if you done like the western world then fuck off to Saudi Arabia'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlThey have a point , Islam is committing terrorism in a number of places in the name of religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou 2 need counselling.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerHmmmm that's a good point!Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Blanket statements are bad... unless of course they're aimed at whitey. :rolleyes:
Listen world... it ain't whitey... it ain't whitey.
Fact is... 9 black people got shot by a white guy. It sucks, it's sad, it's a tragedy, and I think they should kill Dylann Roof because he's a piece of shit no good motherfucker.
But how many black people will get gunned down by other blacks this weekend? And next weekend? How about tomorrow?
It ain't whitey... nah, it ain't whitey...
I don't see many people condoning the shootings in the black church , howeVer we have people like chowdry on the streets of Britain preaching hate. I am sick and tired of Islam in the civilised world , if you done like the western world then fuck off to Saudi Arabia.
Plenty of Muslims live peacefully and happily in the west. Yet you don't say 'I am sick and tired of those that preach hate/hate the west' or something similar. You say 'sick and tired of Islam' as if they are all the same. Typical ignorance and fully expected.
You hate all Muslims as you have said before.
Is there anyone, or anything in this world that you have a good word to say about?
Yes fine food and wine.
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Originally Posted by BeanflickerI never said that's all I see or that's all there is, I'm just saying there's a lot of double standards and hidden agendas out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou have serious issues if all you see is white people getting bashed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerThere's a lot of double standards, bro!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
White cop shoots a black man, it's the top news story for months. Black cop shoots a white man and you don't hear about it. White guy goes into a church and guns down 9 black people, and we'll be hearing about this for the rest of the year. 50 black people get gunned down in a Chicago weekend, and it's a 30 second blurb on the news.
A muslim commits a massacre and we're tripping over our own feet to tell everyone how Islam is the religion of peace and perpetrator is in no way an indication of a growing problem of Islamic extremist violence. A white guy commits a massacre, and like Kabong said it's presented like every gun owner is a potential mass murderer, or if it's race-related that racism is a widespread problem among whitey and we all have a bit of it in us.
Personally I don't hate anyone, I just think it's a shame white people are so scared to speak open and honestly about issues involving race, immigration, ect. The black community has a lot of problems. The Islamic community has a lot of problems. Doesn't make me a racist or crazy person to point it out IMO.
No of course not. You usually give a reasoned and balanced view. Of course there are issues in Islam and in black communities. Nobody sane would deny that.
Most people, like you, can also tell the difference between an understanding of the facts and the reasons behind them and just outright hate due to bigotry.
Some idiots even think that arguing against bigotry is the same as agreeing with extremists. Some people are thick.
This is true, but they also have views and values that don't fit in with our society. It's not just about terrorism, it's also the oppressive, sexist, homophobic, ect views that are innate in Islam.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
We've had issues here in Canada where a lot of them just can't function within our society. We've had issues with them demanding to wear niqab's on passports and government IDs, demanding that women be segregated from them in certain formal settings (university classes, ect), demanding dedicated prayer centres in schools, even though all religion has been taken out of public schools. This is a belief system that promotes apostasy as well as the execution of homosexuals. These ideas have no place in our Western world.
It's not strictly against Muslims: as an agnostic, I'm not for any religion getting special privileges and rules based on what imaginary man in the sky they choose to believe in. Freedom of religion and the promotion of multiculturalism shouldn't mean that a certain religion gets to call their own shots and disrespect the law and culture of the land. In these cases, I think it's best for both parties that they keep their asses over in the middle east.
Militant Muslims demand a lot but get nothing or very little they are no different to homophobic person, bigot or sexist. Most live and assimilate into society fine.
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Originally Posted by Master
Isn't it worrying that Isis even kill even fellow Muslims who don't agree with them.
That is seriously fucked up.
Totally sick and the same lot killed a whole school of kids in a military base in pakistan. Then this Bradford lot take their kids as young as 3 in a war zone. Totally messed up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Isn't it worrying that Isis even kill even fellow Muslims who don't agree with them.
That is seriously fucked up.
Judging from past and current gun control laws, quite simply NO. Matter of fact I do believe it would increase substantially as victims (being law abiding citizens) would be unarmed...unlike the criminals.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I DESPISE Westboro Baptist and their views but as horrible as THEY are they fully understand the freedom of speech...unlike a lot of our immigrants or militant Muslim converts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
That said I personally only know good peaceful Muslims. And I am very thankful for their friendship. This isn't an all or nothing issue in my mind.
And I am sure the Muslim world is sick of war in the name of British multinational resource extraction agencies. Why don't they fuck off back to the North Sea?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlThey have a point , Islam is committing terrorism in a number of places in the name of religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou 2 need counselling.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerHmmmm that's a good point!Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Blanket statements are bad... unless of course they're aimed at whitey. :rolleyes:
Listen world... it ain't whitey... it ain't whitey.
Fact is... 9 black people got shot by a white guy. It sucks, it's sad, it's a tragedy, and I think they should kill Dylann Roof because he's a piece of shit no good motherfucker.
But how many black people will get gunned down by other blacks this weekend? And next weekend? How about tomorrow?
It ain't whitey... nah, it ain't whitey...
I don't see many people condoning the shootings in the black church , howeVer we have people like chowdry on the streets of Britain preaching hate. I am sick and tired of Islam in the civilised world , if you done like the western world then fuck off to Saudi Arabia.
We probably agree that it's a shame that inadequate twisted misfit loners can get hold of guns quite as easily as they do. That's the case in lots of countries, not just America.
I was quite humbled by how the victims families carried themselves, refusing to turn this into a wider racial argument and even forgiving their killers. Most Christians and Muslims should look at that as an example of spiritual purity.
Incidentally, I'm surprised at the angst about those two pond life women who took their nine kids to Syria ...... good riddance to the lot of them, think about the benefits we are saving now they've gone. With a bit of luck they will all be killed at something. Nice.:cool: