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Damn, the US supreme court just legalized marriage in all fifty states. I'm disappointed in the ruling. Don't get me wrong, although I find homosexuality itself repulsive and unnatural I would never dislike someone solely on the basis they are gay. It is the act of homosexuality I disagree with, not the human, if you follow me. Realizing homosexuals are, no matter how I feel about them I always thought civil unions were the appropriate way to go. I don't agree with the court changing the definition of marriage which for over two thousand years has been betwixt a man and a women, under God.WTF, very disappointed in the US supreme court.
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When I read the thread title I was saying it in my head to the tune - born in the USA for some reason.
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I wonder what the liberals will come up with to complain about next?
For such a horrible, evil, vile, hateful country we're pretty accepting of huge changes like this.
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El Kabong
I wonder what the liberals will come up with to complain about next?
For such a horrible, evil, vile, hateful country we're pretty accepting of huge changes like this.
The US being evil and can do no good is first year undergrad politics. Still prevails but is ill informed. Not to say that mistakes aren't made and parts of the US system I don't like but it's a lot more nuanced than many claim.
Out of interest, if you care to say, do you agree or diasgree with the change?
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It's a great ruling IMO.
Time for people to accept the fact that homosexual couples are just as legitimate as heterosexual couples. There's no real good argument against gay marriage.
People think it ruins the sanctity of marriage? Haven't shotgun weddings and the overwhelming divorce rate done that already? People think it's all about procreation? Well what about heterosexual couples that are infertile or choose not to have kids? Are they also ruining the sanctity of marriage?
I never got the hate against gays or gay marriage. It's such a fascist attitude. As a heterosexual man, the thought of having sex with another man is disgusting to me. But there's plenty of heterosexual fetishes I find unappealing, and types of women I find unappealing that others may like. Who cares? I don't have to have sex with another man, or suck on a woman's toes because some men have foot fetishes. People should stop trying to fuck with the happiness and freedom of others.
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Beanflicker
It's a great ruling IMO.
Time for people to accept the fact that homosexual couples are just as legitimate as heterosexual couples. There's no real good argument against gay marriage.
People think it ruins the sanctity of marriage? Haven't shotgun weddings and the overwhelming divorce rate done that already? People think it's all about procreation? Well what about heterosexual couples that are infertile or choose not to have kids? Are they also ruining the sanctity of marriage?
I never got the hate against gays or gay marriage. It's such a fascist attitude. As a heterosexual man, the thought of having sex with another man is disgusting to me. But there's plenty of heterosexual fetishes I find unappealing, and types of women I find unappealing that others may like. Who cares? I don't have to have sex with another man, or suck on a woman's toes because some men have foot fetishes. People should stop trying to fuck with the happiness and freedom of others.
Understand where you are coming from but is it up to the judicial branch to define marriage. The judiciary should not make laws, it should interrupt them and or rule them constitutional or unconstitutional. The legislature, if need be, should define marriage then the courts should define if said definition is constitutional. This is just another example of the courts having too much power, which was actually in one of the justices dissenting opinions, he asked if you really want to give the courts power to change the definition of something that has existed for thousands of years.
Imo, civil unions were an appropriate way to go for gays.
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Its about time that the gays had the right to be as bitter and miserable as millions of straight married people.
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Beanflicker
It's a great ruling IMO.
Time for people to accept the fact that homosexual couples are just as legitimate as heterosexual couples. There's no real good argument against gay marriage.
People think it ruins the sanctity of marriage? Haven't shotgun weddings and the overwhelming divorce rate done that already? People think it's all about procreation? Well what about heterosexual couples that are infertile or choose not to have kids? Are they also ruining the sanctity of marriage?
I never got the hate against gays or gay marriage. It's such a fascist attitude. As a heterosexual man, the thought of having sex with another man is disgusting to me. But there's plenty of heterosexual fetishes I find unappealing, and types of women I find unappealing that others may like. Who cares? I don't have to have sex with another man, or suck on a woman's toes because some men have foot fetishes. People should stop trying to fuck with the happiness and freedom of others.
Well, if the definition of marriage is subjective what about bigamy. What's the problem there, if they all love each other, why not. What if a guy loves his dog and wants to marry it. Who are we to impede his happiness. Screw it, I want to marry a love doll. I'm tired of these fascist telling me I can't smoke crack, it makes me happy, I'm not hurting anyone else, what business is it of theirs. Commie bastards
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walrus
Well, if the definition of marriage is subjective what about bigamy. What's the problem there, if they all love each other, why not. What if a guy loves his dog and wants to marry it. Who are we to impede his happiness. Screw it, I want to marry a love doll. I'm tired of these fascist telling me I can't smoke crack, it makes me happy, I'm not hurting anyone else, what business is it of theirs. Commie bastards
For the record I have no issue with bigamy, I think it should be legal as well.
We can get into all the same tired slippery slopes that come up whenever people try to justify their opposition to gay marriage, but I think it's a bit silly to compare gay marriage to beastiality, use of illegal narcotics, or a relationship with an inanimate object or some other (non)life form that can't consent.
The fact is, homosexuality occurs in nature and it occurs in our society. We're talking about a lot of people. We can spend our time hating and resenting them because they don't like to put their dicks in same things we do (or the "typical" things in their vaginas), or we can accept that some people are gay, and those people want the same kind of privileges that heterosexuals enjoy. They want to fall in love, have a partner and have their relationship acknowledged, and not have it looked at as some novelty.
And to me, saying "IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S NOT HOW IT HAS BEEN DONE" is probably the weakest argument you can have against ANYTHING. As humans we evolve: attitudes and perceptions change, we look at old ways and we come up with better ways, and we look back on past mistakes and try to atone for them. People are accepting of gays and want them to have the same rights and heterosexuals, that's the way our world is heading and I think it's a great thing. I want to progress, I don't want to live in a world like the middle east where they're doing the same thing they've always done and following the words of a book that's thousands of years old.
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The problem is NOW whether or not Churches HAVE to allow for gay weddings. Will Christian bakers HAVE to make cakes for these wedding? What about Muslim bakeries?
There's going to be confrontation between churches and the LGBT movement but we'll see what happens.....personally I really don't care. I mean I think there's more to this than JUST Gay marriage...perhaps it is to change what marriage is.
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walrus
Well, if the definition of marriage is subjective what about bigamy. What's the problem there, if they all love each other, why not. What if a guy loves his dog and wants to marry it. Who are we to impede his happiness. Screw it, I want to marry a love doll. I'm tired of these fascist telling me I can't smoke crack, it makes me happy, I'm not hurting anyone else, what business is it of theirs. Commie bastards
For the record I have no issue with bigamy, I think it should be legal as well.
We can get into all the same tired slippery slopes that come up whenever people try to justify their opposition to gay marriage, but I think it's a bit silly to compare gay marriage to beastiality, use of illegal narcotics, or a relationship with an inanimate object or some other (non)life form that can't consent.
The fact is, homosexuality occurs in nature and it occurs in our society. We're talking about a lot of people. We can spend our time hating and resenting them because they don't like to put their dicks in same things we do (or the "typical" things in their vaginas), or we can accept that some people are gay, and those people want the same kind of privileges that heterosexuals enjoy. They want to fall in love, have a partner and have their relationship acknowledged, and not have it looked at as some novelty.
And to me, saying "IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S NOT HOW IT HAS BEEN DONE" is probably the weakest argument you can have against ANYTHING. As humans we evolve: attitudes and perceptions change, we look at old ways and we come up with better ways, and we look back on past mistakes and try to atone for them. People are accepting of gays and want them to have the same rights and heterosexuals, that's the way our world is heading and I think it's a great thing. I want to progress, I don't want to live in a world like the middle east where they're doing the same thing they've always done and following the words of a book that's thousands of years old.
No, my main argument at this point is the Supreme court making the ruling, it should not be within there power to do so.
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Anyone looked at the National divorce rate lately. Do you know how many idiots we all watch stumble into marriage for all the wrong reasons fully knowing it was a ship leaving with anchor down. Honestly, who cares. Its time the self righteous and Nanny state to get over themselves, release the death grip on man made laws clinged to in the name of organized, often hypocritical, religions. We gotta be bigger than this. Congrats Mrs. and Mrs. Jones...ya made the team.
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Anyone looked at the National divorce rate lately. Do you know how many idiots we all watch stumble into marriage for all the wrong reasons fully knowing it was a ship leaving with anchor down. Honestly, who cares. Its time the self righteous and Nanny state to get over themselves, release the death grip on man made laws clinged to in the name of organized, often hypocritical, religions. We gotta be bigger than this. Congrats Mrs. and Mrs. Jones...ya made the team.
Bang on,anyone stupid enough to join up... join up, congrats and see most of you in court.
Lawyers must love this.
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El Kabong
The problem is NOW whether or not Churches HAVE to allow for gay weddings. Will Christian bakers HAVE to make cakes for these wedding? What about Muslim bakeries?
There's going to be confrontation between churches and the LGBT movement but we'll see what happens.....personally I really don't care. I mean I think there's more to this than JUST Gay marriage...perhaps it is to change what marriage is.
IMO, they can make laws legalizing anything they want, including gay marriage. But churches cannot be forced to accept, condone, or even participate in gay marriages. For the record, I agree with Walrus on this, as is my God-given right. Anyone can feel however they like... and I resent the fact that straight people have to tiptoe around issues like this. If you agree... fine. If you disagree... it should be fine also.
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I don't have a problem with gay marriage. It is a good thing and shows a dedication towards one another in a life long journey.
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Hahaha, I see I started a thread on this ages back. What are the odds I said quite the opposite or something like that? I don't lie, I just change my mind a lot....or forget! :cool:
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live and let live. Who cares ? No gay person ever did anything to upset me - in fact on the whole I find them far more pleasant.
I've had gay friends now 20+ years and though it was a bit weird at first (it was back then - for me anyway) after a few weeks I didn't even think about it. I always take the piss out of them of course and call them 'dirty bastards' and warn them not to try bum me if i get too drunk but its all tongue in cheek and a good laugh. I remember a couple of gay work colleagues taking a few of us on a tour of the gay bars a few years back. Will never forget the dance floor being suddenly packed when a Steps song came on - watching that was a comedy gold moment for me.
What's far more worrying is whats going on in the world with these crazy IS murdering mofos. Unfortunately I fear this Tunisia incident isn't the worst thing thats going to happen this summer :-\
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walrus
Damn, the US supreme court just legalized marriage in all fifty states. I'm disappointed in the ruling. Don't get me wrong, although I find homosexuality itself repulsive and unnatural I would never dislike someone solely on the basis they are gay. It is the act of homosexuality I disagree with, not the human, if you follow me. Realizing homosexuals are, no matter how I feel about them I always thought civil unions were the appropriate way to go. I don't agree with the court changing the definition of marriage which for over two thousand years has been betwixt a man and a women, under God.WTF, very disappointed in the US supreme court.
Where would be the wrong in it, if two people of the same sex who never have sex at all fell in love and wanted to be married? They exist too btw.
Just wondering from that point of view if their love and wish to share a life would be ok where as the ones with a sex life wouldnt be?
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Beanflicker
It's a great ruling IMO.
Time for people to accept the fact that homosexual couples are just as legitimate as heterosexual couples. There's no real good argument against gay marriage.
People think it ruins the sanctity of marriage? Haven't shotgun weddings and the overwhelming divorce rate done that already? People think it's all about procreation? Well what about heterosexual couples that are infertile or choose not to have kids? Are they also ruining the sanctity of marriage?
I never got the hate against gays or gay marriage. It's such a fascist attitude. As a heterosexual man, the thought of having sex with another man is disgusting to me. But there's plenty of heterosexual fetishes I find unappealing, and types of women I find unappealing that others may like. Who cares? I don't have to have sex with another man, or suck on a woman's toes because some men have foot fetishes. People should stop trying to fuck with the happiness and freedom of others.
Also with over crowding and the end of the world due to it: Gays to the rescue. ;)
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Some interesting points all round on this,as usual Saddos rule compared to the bullshit people go on about on most other threads out there.
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walrus
Damn, the US supreme court just legalized marriage in all fifty states. I'm disappointed in the ruling. Don't get me wrong, although I find homosexuality itself repulsive and unnatural I would never dislike someone solely on the basis they are gay. It is the act of homosexuality I disagree with, not the human, if you follow me. Realizing homosexuals are, no matter how I feel about them I always thought civil unions were the appropriate way to go. I don't agree with the court changing the definition of marriage which for over two thousand years has been betwixt a man and a women, under God.WTF, very disappointed in the US supreme court.
Where would be the wrong in it, if two people of the same sex who never have sex at all fell in love and wanted to be married? They exist too btw.
Just wondering from that point of view if their love and wish to share a life would be ok where as the ones with a sex life wouldnt be?
Well, once again Andre, I think if gays want to be together in such a fashion the legal unions they had were appropriate. As I've said, I don't agree with the court changing the definition of marriage. Gays do and will exists. I work with a couple of pillow bitters and I don't look down on them for being gay. The problem is not being attacked to men, the problem is the act of homosexual sex. Yes I'll say it, I think gays are called to abstain from sex. I have urges and desires I don't give into as I know they are wrong and I look at gay sex as one of those. I like you Andre, I have no desire to cornhole you, sorry to say, but if I did, I wouldn't. That may sound like a strange belief and it is not something I preach to gays, unless they ask my opinion which they don't. Anyway, just my feelings and thoughts on the matter. Has anyone ever wondered if Miles is gay, we know Kirkland is.
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I don't really care what they doing to each other, i don't mind lesbians but when two guys kicking it next to me at a train station i once was at, they basically made out licked each others face off and i had to tell them to take it easy, or til they get a room, i didn't mean to hurt them or anything just cut it down in public.
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walrus
The problem is not being attacked to men, the problem is the act of homosexual sex. Yes I'll say it, I think gays are called to abstain from sex. I have urges and desires I don't give into as I know they are wrong and I look at gay sex as one of those.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion, I wouldn't try to take the right from anyone. But everyone has to right to have an opinion on the opinion's and views of others, and all I can say is it makes me very happy to know that this stance against homosexuals is no longer the majority and no longer has any power. Equality is here, it's not going away and those opposed to it have lost decisively.
On the subject of religious freedom and whether or not stores should have the right to refuse service to gays on the grounds of religious freedom... freedom of religion gives you the right to practice whatever religion you want, it doesn't give you the right to arbitrarily deny the rights of others because it's not in line with your beliefs. Discrimination is not tolerated, society has determined that homosexual couples have the same rights to marriage as heterosexuals, so if that doesn't work for the churches then maybe they should start paying taxes because clearly they are inclusive and not doing a service to society as a whole.
I got a good laugh at all the homophobic Americans on twitter saying they're going to move up here to Canada because of the verdict. Gay marriage has been legal country wide up here for 10 years.
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I couldnt give a rat's fucking ass if a man wants to fuck another man in the ass while singing "twinkle twinkle little star" and then get married to him, likewise, i could not give two shits if 3 women dressed as brock lesnar wanted to eat each others' vaginas out to the tune of "freebird" and then do a group marriage of 3.
Who cares even if a man wants to fuck the shit out of a horse or sheep, then marry that sheep, then divorce that sheep, then hire 3 more men to gang-bang that sheep and they all get married?
I could not give a fucking shit.
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Mark TKO
live and let live. Who cares ? No gay person ever did anything to upset me - in fact on the whole I find them far more pleasant.
I've had gay friends now 20+ years and though it was a bit weird at first (it was back then - for me anyway) after a few weeks I didn't even think about it. I always take the piss out of them of course and call them 'dirty bastards' and warn them not to try bum me if i get too drunk but its all tongue in cheek and a good laugh. I remember a couple of gay work colleagues taking a few of us on a tour of the gay bars a few years back. Will never forget the dance floor being suddenly packed when a Steps song came on - watching that was a comedy gold moment for me.
What's far more worrying is whats going on in the world with these crazy IS murdering mofos. Unfortunately I fear this Tunisia incident isn't the worst thing thats going to happen this summer :-\
Say no more Mark. I can read between the lines....
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walrus
The problem is not being attacked to men, the problem is the act of homosexual sex. Yes I'll say it, I think gays are called to abstain from sex. I have urges and desires I don't give into as I know they are wrong and I look at gay sex as one of those.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion, I wouldn't try to take the right from anyone. But everyone has to right to have an opinion on the opinion's and views of others, and all I can say is it makes me very happy to know that this stance against homosexuals is no longer the majority and no longer has any power. Equality is here, it's not going away and those opposed to it have lost decisively.
On the subject of religious freedom and whether or not stores should have the right to refuse service to gays on the grounds of religious freedom... freedom of religion gives you the right to practice whatever religion you want, it doesn't give you the right to arbitrarily deny the rights of others because it's not in line with your beliefs. Discrimination is not tolerated, society has determined that homosexual couples have the same rights to marriage as heterosexuals, so if that doesn't work for the churches then maybe they should start paying taxes because clearly they are inclusive and not doing a service to society as a whole.
I got a good laugh at all the homophobic Americans on twitter saying they're going to move up here to Canada because of the verdict. Gay marriage has been legal country wide up here for 10 years.
Yes, I'm not sure about a bakery denying a cake to a gay marriage. But aren't the Bakery owners entitled to deny service to customers. We had a couple cases in the US that ended up in court but I forgot the rulings. The courts can't demand churches that don't believe in gay marriage perform ceremonies but I can see some radical couples trying to push that issue as well. The only thing that could change gay marriage, which is now the law of the land, is a constitutional amendment which would probably fail. I would like to see it go back to the states to make the decision, still posses at the supreme court.
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NVSemin
that's terrible news
worry Semin all the Catholic priests can stop molesting kids and now marry another man.
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I couldnt give a rat's fucking ass if a man wants to fuck another man in the ass while singing "twinkle twinkle little star" and then get married to him, likewise, i could not give two shits if 3 women dressed as brock lesnar wanted to eat each others' vaginas out to the tune of "freebird" and then do a group marriage of 3.
Who cares even if a man wants to fuck the shit out of a horse or sheep, then marry that sheep, then divorce that sheep, then hire 3 more men to gang-bang that sheep and they all get married?
I could not give a fucking shit.
Well, if you really don't care about getting cornholed could you stop by my house tomorrow, believe me, you will care by the time you leave my boudoir @brocktonblockbust
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brocktonblockbust
I couldnt give a rat's fucking ass if a man wants to fuck another man in the ass while singing "twinkle twinkle little star" and then get married to him, likewise, i could not give two shits if 3 women dressed as brock lesnar wanted to eat each others' vaginas out to the tune of "freebird" and then do a group marriage of 3.
Who cares even if a man wants to fuck the shit out of a horse or sheep, then marry that sheep, then divorce that sheep, then hire 3 more men to gang-bang that sheep and they all get married?
I could not give a fucking shit.
Well, if you really don't care about getting cornholed could you stop by my house tomorrow, believe me, you will care by the time you leave my boudoir @
brocktonblockbust
@walrus We were sayng @TitoFan was hung like a stallion, but now you come out with this news...
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brocktonblockbust
I couldnt give a rat's fucking ass if a man wants to fuck another man in the ass while singing "twinkle twinkle little star" and then get married to him, likewise, i could not give two shits if 3 women dressed as brock lesnar wanted to eat each others' vaginas out to the tune of "freebird" and then do a group marriage of 3.
Who cares even if a man wants to fuck the shit out of a horse or sheep, then marry that sheep, then divorce that sheep, then hire 3 more men to gang-bang that sheep and they all get married?
I could not give a fucking shit.
Well, if you really don't care about getting cornholed could you stop by my house tomorrow, believe me, you will care by the time you leave my boudoir @
brocktonblockbust
@
walrus We were sayng @
TitoFan was hung like a stallion, but now you come out with this news...
See Brock? Seems @walrus may have been hiding his own "little" secret.
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brocktonblockbust
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walrus
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brocktonblockbust
I couldnt give a rat's fucking ass if a man wants to fuck another man in the ass while singing "twinkle twinkle little star" and then get married to him, likewise, i could not give two shits if 3 women dressed as brock lesnar wanted to eat each others' vaginas out to the tune of "freebird" and then do a group marriage of 3.
Who cares even if a man wants to fuck the shit out of a horse or sheep, then marry that sheep, then divorce that sheep, then hire 3 more men to gang-bang that sheep and they all get married?
I could not give a fucking shit.
Well, if you really don't care about getting cornholed could you stop by my house tomorrow, believe me, you will care by the time you leave my boudoir @
brocktonblockbust
@
walrus We were sayng @
TitoFan was hung like a stallion, but now you come out with this news...
See Brock? Seems @
walrus may have been hiding his own "little" secret.
Yes, I. Of Irish heritage so the key word is little
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walrus
Yes, I'm not sure about a bakery denying a cake to a gay marriage. But aren't the Bakery owners entitled to deny service to customers. We had a couple cases in the US that ended up in court but I forgot the rulings. The courts can't demand churches that don't believe in gay marriage perform ceremonies but I can see some radical couples trying to push that issue as well. The only thing that could change gay marriage, which is now the law of the land, is a constitutional amendment which would probably fail. I would like to see it go back to the states to make the decision, still posses at the supreme court.
The bakery thing is a complicated issue for me.
On one hand, no, you're not allowed to deny service to an individual based on their colour/gender/creed/sexuality/ect. Nobody should have the right to deny service to anyone. A pizza place can't say "we don't serve gays", a grocery store can't say "we don't serve blacks", ect.
However, I don't think the government has any right to dictate what kinds of services and products and establishment offers. I don't think a bakery should be forced to carry gay-friendly products. I don't think it should be a crime for a bakery to not carry the supplies to create a gay-friendly cake (two grooms/brides figure, whatever). I don't think people should be forced to carry "gay" products.
But if you have a service where you make cakes and will put a message on it, you better be ready to write some gay shit on that cake.
To deny services to gays is just such a cunty thing to do. What does it accomplish? Pray to your god and tell him "listen, I know there's a lot of fag shit going on right now but I want you to know I don't like and have nothing to do with it" and you should be good, right?
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walrus
Yes, I'm not sure about a bakery denying a cake to a gay marriage. But aren't the Bakery owners entitled to deny service to customers. We had a couple cases in the US that ended up in court but I forgot the rulings. The courts can't demand churches that don't believe in gay marriage perform ceremonies but I can see some radical couples trying to push that issue as well. The only thing that could change gay marriage, which is now the law of the land, is a constitutional amendment which would probably fail. I would like to see it go back to the states to make the decision, still posses at the supreme court.
The bakery thing is a complicated issue for me.
On one hand, no, you're not allowed to deny service to an individual based on their colour/gender/creed/sexuality/ect. Nobody should have the right to deny service to anyone. A pizza place can't say "we don't serve gays", a grocery store can't say "we don't serve blacks", ect.
However, I don't think the government has any right to dictate what kinds of services and products and establishment offers. I don't think a bakery should be forced to carry gay-friendly products. I don't think it should be a crime for a bakery to not carry the supplies to create a gay-friendly cake (two grooms/brides figure, whatever). I don't think people should be forced to carry "gay" products.
But if you have a service where you make cakes and will put a message on it, you better be ready to write some gay shit on that cake.
To deny services to gays is just such a cunty thing to do. What does it accomplish? Pray to your god and tell him "listen, I know there's a lot of fag shit going on right now but I want you to know I don't like and have nothing to do with it" and you should be good, right?
understood, but doesn't a private establishment have the right to refuse service to a potential customer period.
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Finally gay people in America have equal rights over marriage. Well done gay people, you made this happen.
It was a hell of a bad week for conservatives in America. The Supreme Court made gay marriage legal in every state and upheld Obamacare. The Confederate flag was taken down from government buildings all over the south. Just wait till this week when Obama declares his Caliphate.
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I do not want my son to grow and f..k other man's shit, does it make sense?
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NVSemin
that's terrible news
worry Semin all the Catholic priests can stop molesting kids and now marry another man.
Ironically, even though there is nothing funny, there will be more pedifiles after this law adopted.
In fact, it will be harder to prosecute them legally and they will fight for their "rights " the same way gays did it.
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A great victory for the Libertarian party. Marriage equality has been part of the party platform since 1976. Oddly, from what I have read, gay people that are openly Libertarian are regularly barred from gay pride events. Don't ask, don't tell, I guess.
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Originally Posted by
greynotsoold
A great victory for the Libertarian party. Marriage equality has been part of the party platform since 1976. Oddly, from what I have read, gay people that are openly Libertarian are regularly barred from gay pride events. Don't ask, don't tell, I guess.
It has nothing to do with equality.
Gay did not win the battle for THEIR rights, no, the force the RIGHT and STANDARD for the rest of people, which is in fact majority, to be LOWER, i.e. at level of GAYS. Their ultimate goal is to make everybody like GAYS, and make the rest of the world pay for it.
