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... doesn't even mention Tim Bradley... willing to forget Danny Garcia even exists... has not brought the name Kell Brook into any conversation, even when speaking about Amir Khan... doesn't think Keith Thurman should fight anyone above novices like Errol Spence... and does not want to go anywhere near Golovkin...
He is entitled to a gimme for his last fight. It would be cool if he had a strong undercard though.
Why? Of his 48 fights how many werent gimmes? Maybe 4 or 5Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09
Bradley's with top rank that won't happen pacman fight only happened for the crazy amount of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Garcia really you would want to see that ? I think I would be honestly shocked if Garcia won one single round.
Brook why would he pick him when the Khan fight would make so much more money. If he's fighting a Brit it's only ever going to be Khan.
Thurman I kind of agree with you it's an insult to thruman to suggest he fights spence. Ggg behave floyds got no business fighting at that weight and everyone who's not a floyd hater knows this.
Id love to see Thurman spank Spence. Reduce Floyds future earning potential from himQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3Bradley's with top rank that won't happen pacman fight only happened for the crazy amount of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Garcia really you would want to see that ? I think I would be honestly shocked if Garcia won one single round.
Brook why would he pick him when the Khan fight would make so much more money. If he's fighting a Brit it's only ever going to be Khan.
Thurman I kind of agree with you it's an insult to thruman to suggest he fights spence. Ggg behave floyds got no business fighting at that weight and everyone who's not a floyd hater knows this.
Yea I was surprised floyd wants them to fight, spence does look like a very talented fighter but at this stage you would have to think Thurman would just eat him up.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeId love to see Thurman spank Spence. Reduce Floyds future earning potential from himQuote:
Originally Posted by g3org3Bradley's with top rank that won't happen pacman fight only happened for the crazy amount of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Garcia really you would want to see that ? I think I would be honestly shocked if Garcia won one single round.
Brook why would he pick him when the Khan fight would make so much more money. If he's fighting a Brit it's only ever going to be Khan.
Thurman I kind of agree with you it's an insult to thruman to suggest he fights spence. Ggg behave floyds got no business fighting at that weight and everyone who's not a floyd hater knows this.
Keith Thurman is the most overrated fighter on planet earth right now. The guy has done dick.
You dont have to do dick to see someones good plus he beat Guerrero easier than Floyd beat him so he must be better than Floyd :lickish:Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
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Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeYou dont have to do dick to see someones good plus he beat Guerrero easier than Floyd beat him so he must be better than Floyd :lickish:Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
I think I have a pretty good eye for the sport and Thurman is pretty pedestrian. He's also been hand fed and continues to be. Chaves was a nice win but that's been it. A few nice highlight reels against no hopers and that's the body of his work thus far in a division full of talent. Lol @ the Floyd comparison with Guerrero. Pender beat Robinson twice and then got stopped by Terry Downes so Downes is better then Robinson:lickish:
I was taking the piss with the Guerrero comparison. Im not fully sold on him but I do think only 2 or 3 fighters in the div beat him. Floyd, Brook and Bradley and not sure on BradleyQuote:
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Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeYou dont have to do dick to see someones good plus he beat Guerrero easier than Floyd beat him so he must be better than Floyd :lickish:Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
I think I have a pretty good eye for the sport and Thurman is pretty pedestrian. He's also been hand fed and continues to be. Chaves was a nice win but that's been it. A few nice highlight reels against no hopers and that's the body of his work thus far in a division full of talent. Lol @ the Floyd comparison with Guerrero. Pender beat Robinson twice and then got stopped by Terry Downes so Downes is better then Robinson:lickish:
I agree. He is in no place to suggest people have to earn fights with him because he hasn't earned anything. The whole meme that people need to earn.... has gotten out of control. Good fighters just need to fight some good fighters finally FFSQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Tbe
The guy has fought everyone and set all kinds of records. Yes the last fight can be against a cab driver if he wants and people will tune into see it. Besides Casamayor, Tszyu and Margarito he has fought everyone. His record over 19 years is pretty damn impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeWhy? Of his 48 fights how many werent gimmes? Maybe 4 or 5Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09
I think Mayweather's camp was banking on a great performance by Khan against Algieri to confirm Khan as an opponent.. Since Amir stunk it up, they were forced to rethink their options....
The best ever
Floyd Mayweather
Great boxer, but only an above-average fighter.
Not exciting.
Much like watching a Meryl Streep movie.
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Floyd should not have a easy fight, he is massively overpaid and should earn it by fighting the best fighters out there.
Floyd MayweatherQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
"Boxing is great work, when I can get it. It's easy being me."
Overpaid?? Do you know how much money he generates?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I have to agree with the 'Bean-Man'.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerOverpaid?? Do you know how much money he generates?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He is 100% correct on this one.
Who cares how much he generates? He is not worth the vast sums he gets for the performance he produces. They overpaid on his contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomI have to agree with the 'Bean-Man'.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerOverpaid?? Do you know how much money he generates?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He is 100% correct on this one.
So less should go to Floyd and more should go to the old rich dudes who promote the fights and work behind the scenes?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWho cares how much he generates? He is not worth the vast sums he gets for the performance he produces. They overpaid on his contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomI have to agree with the 'Bean-Man'.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerOverpaid?? Do you know how much money he generates?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He is 100% correct on this one.
If anything I want the guys who risk their health and well being to make bigger %'s of the gross.
He fought and whipped the guy that everyone said he was afraid to fight. People said Pac was gonna knock him out and Floyd made him look pedestrian. Let the man get paid!
He got over paid for a fight 5 years past its sell by date. The fight was pure hype and was rubbish to watch. Biggest fight in history my ass.
Not his fault everyone got sucked into thinking Pac was on his level hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Let brother Floyd get his cash!
Floyd is laughing all the way to the bank but the only 2 big fights in terms of challenge were Canelo and Manny (past its sell by date). He is vastly overpaid compared to the entertainment he provides.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerNot his fault everyone got sucked into thinking Pac was on his level hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Let brother Floyd get his cash!
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Originally Posted by Master
Your first point contradicts your 3rd point. He makes the best fighters easy fights. You don't get easier than Pac was.
The funny thing is people shit on him for choosing to fight Maidana... but who would have known Maidana would give Floyd a harder fight than Manny??Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
~ The Bean-Counters ~
They know how much he is worth, and then they figure out the pay-outs.
Much like that low-talent 'buffoon' David Letterman.
Everybody knew he was over-paid, and Letterman knew he was over-paid for all these years.
It wasn't his fault that they dumping all that money on him.
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"Yes, I think I understand it all now. I guess I was over-paid as well."
Yes you were Donna.
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People expose themselves with that shit. Now everyone is saying what a great fight Porter/Maidana will be, it can't be that he is a great opponent for one top guy but a terrible opponent for another. That's just transparent hypocrisy.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerThe funny thing is people shit on him for choosing to fight Maidana... but who would have known Maidana would give Floyd a harder fight than Manny??Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Floyd has been fighting at championship level for 18 years, anyone that suggests his resume isn't superb isn't worth talking boxing with. He hasn't fought every guy but in 18 years you will miss a few.
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Does it really matter at this time who Floyd fights?!?! Geez... He is bullshitting his own self. He should allow the sanctioning orgs to pick. No doubt he will win against the possible contenders anyways.
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Originally Posted by MasterFloyd is laughing all the way to the bank but the only 2 big fights in terms of challenge were Canelo and Manny (past its sell by date). He is vastly overpaid compared to the entertainment he provides.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerNot his fault everyone got sucked into thinking Pac was on his level hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Let brother Floyd get his cash!
Damn bro.
I was following you till now. Canelo and Manny?? Those have been two of Floyd's most boring fights in recent times. Both failed miserably to live up to expectations. Canelo because he never should have been there in the first place.... and Manny because of whatever reason. Five years too late.... bum shoulder.... not in Floyd's class... whatever. Both fights sucked.... and in both cases fans should've gotten their money back.
Biggest fights in terms of challenge were Cotto and Maidana.
Perceived big fights then before they actually happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFloyd is laughing all the way to the bank but the only 2 big fights in terms of challenge were Canelo and Manny (past its sell by date). He is vastly overpaid compared to the entertainment he provides.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerNot his fault everyone got sucked into thinking Pac was on his level hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Let brother Floyd get his cash!
Damn bro.
I was following you till now. Canelo and Manny?? Those have been two of Floyd's most boring fights in recent times. Both failed miserably to live up to expectations. Canelo because he never should have been there in the first place.... and Manny because of whatever reason. Five years too late.... bum shoulder.... not in Floyd's class... whatever. Both fights sucked.... and in both cases fans should've gotten their money back.
Biggest fights in terms of challenge were Cotto and Maidana.
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Originally Posted by MasterPerceived big fights then before they actually happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFloyd is laughing all the way to the bank but the only 2 big fights in terms of challenge were Canelo and Manny (past its sell by date). He is vastly overpaid compared to the entertainment he provides.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerNot his fault everyone got sucked into thinking Pac was on his level hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Let brother Floyd get his cash!
Damn bro.
I was following you till now. Canelo and Manny?? Those have been two of Floyd's most boring fights in recent times. Both failed miserably to live up to expectations. Canelo because he never should have been there in the first place.... and Manny because of whatever reason. Five years too late.... bum shoulder.... not in Floyd's class... whatever. Both fights sucked.... and in both cases fans should've gotten their money back.
Biggest fights in terms of challenge were Cotto and Maidana.
Exactly.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
Meh a win is a win. Boxing's about winning and not getting hit. Guys who are exciting and get hit don't last long and sound funny when they talk.
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Originally Posted by BeanflickerQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Meh a win is a win. Boxing's about winning and not getting hit. Guys who are exciting and get hit don't last long and sound funny when they talk.
Wins and losses against common opponents can be compared.
Nothing wrong with that.
If we're gonna say a win's a win... then we're equating the guy who got knocked in the 1st round or embarrassed through a full 12 rounds, with the guy who gave as well as he took and still lost a hard-fought decision. Not so.
Well allow me to retort!Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
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A dominant win is a dominant win.
Some guys were blessed with one-punch KO power in each hand, and they can get guys out of there early and consistently (Mike Tyson, Foreman, ect).
Some guys also have a very aggressive style that lends itself more towards exciting fights and KOs.
My point is I don't see why having big KO power and knocking guys out necessarily makes you better than a guy with not much power.
Floyd's not knocking guys out or really beating the shit out of them, but he is always winning in dominant fashion. So in that case, how does it make Floyd any better if he was more exciting against Canelo?
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Originally Posted by BeanflickerWell allow me to retort!Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
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A dominant win is a dominant win.
Some guys were blessed with one-punch KO power in each hand, and they can get guys out of there early and consistently (Mike Tyson, Foreman, ect).
Some guys also have a very aggressive style that lends itself more towards exciting fights and KOs.
My point is I don't see why having big KO power and knocking guys out necessarily makes you better than a guy with not much power.
Floyd's not knocking guys out or really beating the shit out of them, but he is always winning in dominant fashion. So in that case, how does it make Floyd any better if he was more exciting against Canelo?
I think we're on different wavelengths here, Bean.
You're taking my argument as criticism against Floyd. Whereas I was just responding to Master who mentioned Floyd's fights vs. Canelo and Pac saying they were "the only 2 big fights in terms of challenge". I was merely pointing out that on the contrary... Cotto and Maidana both presented vastly more challenge to Floyd than Canelo and Pac ever did. Master then clarified he had meant "perceived" challenge before the fight. Point clarified. Not criticizing Floyd here.
...most certainly and undeniably TBE!