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With the rest of 122 hiding under rocks Rigo is looking up to get a fight.
Loma has looked like a fighter that wants the best but they recently said Walters offers them nothing without his belt then they said they would try to get Selby or Vetyeka who lost his belt to Donaire.(not sure how he offers something but Walters doesn't)So that reeks a bit, their response to Rigo will show a lot about if they really want the tough fights.
I would be shocked if he fought rigo. No way that arum wants Loma to be embarrassed that bad at this point of his career.
Loma is bigger though, that should make it interesting. And younger, 34 is rather old for such a small man as Rigo.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I think you are wrong, Arum has loads of confidence in Loma and has from the very beginning.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I'd love to see this fight.
Its being noted at several places including Ring that Rigo may be going to Haymon which would kill that fight because of the suit. Be a great fight though. I think its going to be Frampton/Rigo if that happens or maybe the winner of Mares/Santa Cruz but I doubt either would sack up.
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The Al Haymon talent collection effort continues, as it looks like he will maybe have the mega-talented Cuban Guillermo Rigondeaux under his umbrella.
Rigo is one of the top handful of pure pugilists on the planet, and his record stands at 15-0. THE RING’s 122-pound champ is in a non-sexy weight class, though, so he hasn’t attracted the attention of networks like his talent might suggest he would. He last gloved up in December, scoring a stoppage win over Hisahi Amagasa in Japan.
Rigo is promoted by Caribe, and managed by Gary Hyde, currently. His contract with Hyde runs through February, the Irishman tells me. He believes that Rigo could hop aboard the Haymon train but said that no one from that squad has reached out top him. Hyde admits he’s frustrated that Rigo is 34, his window is not infinite and hasn’t been aggressive in agreeing to deals he has brought to the table, promotional as well as for compelling fights, the last few years.
I feel that Loma has a bright future but is obviously still a bit green. I don't think that Loma does well at all against rigo. He may win a few rounds but I can't see him winning.
Rigo taking on the best challenges available, how very refreshing.
But wouldn't that be after February though? That doesn't effect a fight now. I also don't agree with the assessment by the writer 122 isn't a sexy division. It's damn sexy if they would just be willing to fight Rigo.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
And to be clear it was Lomachenkos manager who started this talk by saying THEY WANTED this fight but the already small for 122 Rigo would have to come to 126. Rigo simply said he is eager to comply. Is he calling a bluff or will Lomas team follow up on their talk?
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Originally Posted by Ron SwansonBut wouldn't that be after February though? That doesn't effect a fight now. I also don't agree with the assessment by the writer 122 isn't a sexy division. It's damn sexy if they would just be willing to fight Rigo.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
It would be nice if they could get it done while Rigo is not with Haymon but lets not forget that there was a ton of bad blood between Top Rank and Rigo prior to his departure.
I think Rigo is the most talented fighter on the planet but his problem seems to be that he has his head to far up his own ass. He's kind of like Ward in that respect. Thinks that boxing should revolve around him. He has said that he would move up to 26 for the right cash so I guess we will see. Its frustrating these days because even in a division area as rich as 22/26, people seem to find ways not to fight rather then fight.
One other factor needs to be brought up regarding your initial post. Walters wanted Loma before he moved. Top Rank showed no interest in the fight and for good reason. The moment Nic blew weight and looked to be moving up then Arums group said there was nothing in it for him because he never had a belt. I mean it really is laughable.
I support Rigo because it is sport, what matters is how good you are. I know everyone wants "entertainment" but that cuts away at the essence. I want this fight bad, not for Rigo to win but simply for the good of the sport as a whole. Frankly I think it is better for the younger Loma to win. But then part of me thinks a competitive loss for Loma would be good if he continued to match hard and became a star anyway. For people to see wins and losses don't hurt your marketability. And for fans to wake the fuck up and realize hard fights are what they should be calling for. I spend half my time on messageboards reading why this guy or that guy shouldn't take a hard fight. It blows my mind.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Ron SwansonBut wouldn't that be after February though? That doesn't effect a fight now. I also don't agree with the assessment by the writer 122 isn't a sexy division. It's damn sexy if they would just be willing to fight Rigo.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
It would be nice if they could get it done while Rigo is not with Haymon but lets not forget that there was a ton of bad blood between Top Rank and Rigo prior to his departure.
I think Rigo is the most talented fighter on the planet but his problem seems to be that he has his head to far up his own ass. He's kind of like Ward in that respect. Thinks that boxing should revolve around him. He has said that he would move up to 26 for the right cash so I guess we will see. Its frustrating these days because even in a division area as rich as 22/26, people seem to find ways not to fight rather then fight.
One other factor needs to be brought up regarding your initial post. Walters wanted Loma before he moved. Top Rank showed no interest in the fight and for good reason. The moment Nic blew weight and looked to be moving up then Arums group said there was nothing in it for him because he never had a belt. I mean it really is laughable.
And I want Loma to be the guy he appears to be willing to take on all. But them saying Vetyeka is a fight they want after saying Walters offers nothing calls them hard into question. Because that premise is laughable.
There's that too. Would PPV to see the fight all by itself!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Two of the best taking on each other is hard to resist, for me.
One last comment, this wouldn't be a typical Rigo or Loma fight, these two are both good enough to make the other fight. IMO
I just don't get it...I saw an HBO show where they have Lomachenko rated p4p already...wtf. he's got like 5 fights and he already lost to Salido. There's gotta be a shit load of Cuban ams that fucking hate this guy right now.
That's boxing these days, nothing is earned. Loma definitely looks the part but many guys have looked the part until they met equal talent. I think only 2 guys at or around 126 have a chance against him.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
All this talk from fighters about fighting this guy or that is a real drag. Once they get in the ring is what matters.
It looks like Rigo is trying to wait out his contract and move to Haymon. The good in that is a Frampton fight becomes a possibility the bad is that Rigondeaux may be inactive until then.
I don't see the Lomachenko fight happening, it would be a fantastic clash of skill.
Both are excellent fighters and I like both,! I just favor Loma not by much CAN'T WAIT.:)
Rigondeaux is unable to fight until at least February and maybe a long time after that if his current manager goes to court to try and exten his contract. He could be 35 the next time we see him fight and he got put on his arse (twice?) by a Japanese journeyman six months ago.
I don't think people will be queuing up to fight him but I don't think a guy with Lomachenko's pedigree is going to be worried about getting in the ring with him. Although if he does sign with Haymon it's not going to happen.
I've just read that Rigo requires a rehydration clause of 135 pounds and a catch weight of 124 pounds. I'm not sure how I feel about those demands. In a way, to make a good fight happen, it might be worth it, but if it depletes Loma, it clearly isn't worth it. It's not like Loma is a big puncher at 126. Finally, someone is agreeing in principle to face Rigo, and he's making demands that could derail the fight.
Also, I understand why Loma doesn't want to face Walters if Walters can't make 126 after Loma had problems with Salido when Salido weighed 130. He clearly feels better fighting as a featherweight. By the way, he could have backed out of the fight with Salido after Salido failed to make weight, but he went through with it, and lost a decision. It's tough to blame him for not wanting to go up in weight for Walters after having that experience with Salido -- at least he tried it out against a heavier guy.
As it turns out, Loma said that he'd agree to the rehydration clause of 134 to make the fight if Rigo will agree to the fight at 126. It might actually happen.
Honestly Rigo is damn near my favorite boxer but right now he needs to be humble and take what he gets!!! His people have turned down many offers and Rigo has been inactive so long. If he was to fight Loma I dont know who to pick because Loma is good and we dont know how Rigo would hold up to the Power of Loma, either way i like this i just dont know who to pick.