Rocky Marciano
Jack Dempsey
Joe Louis
Jack Johnson
Muhammad Ali
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Rocky Marciano
Jack Dempsey
Joe Louis
Jack Johnson
Muhammad Ali
In no particular order , and I'm sure many will disagree:
Ali - Say no more.
Louis - Dominated for so long.
Holmes - Again, was no.1 for a long time.
Tyson - At his peak and at a very young age, not only did he dominate , but he had grown men beat before they even stepped in the ring.
Marciano - as they say nowadays, nobody had the Blueprint! People can say what they like about size or quality, but as he never lost, we don't know what his limits would be.
I wouldn't put Muhammad Ali in the Top 5, or over Larry Holmes.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Ali, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis, Louis.
1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Holyfield
4. Holmes
5. Lewis
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
Larry Holmes would have beaten Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali anytime they fought,
while in the Prime phase of their careers.
In no particular order:-
Ali
Tyson
Holyfield
Marciano
Louis
No order.
Tyson Fury.
Kevin Johnson.
Hughie Fury.
Steve Cunningham.
Derrick Chisora.
How do you expect people to take you seriously when you haven't got Audley Harrison in there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
You know nothing!:cool:
This is my list also, Bill what is yours I could do with a laugh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I think that you are being disrespectful by not using full names.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThis is my list also, Bill what is yours I could do with a laugh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Are we going by the 'Best by Era' or 'Best by Skills' or 'Dominance'.
Go see .......... Rudi Lubbers before you put Muhammad Ali at #1.
Sorry Mr Bill Paxtom, I thought we were friends now. What is your top 5?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomI think that you are being disrespectful by not using full names.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThis is my list also, Bill what is yours I could do with a laugh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Are we going by the 'Best by Era' or 'Best by Skills' or 'Dominance'.
Go see .......... Rudi Lubbers before you put Muhammad Ali at #1.
Commander Master
My list goes by >
* Historical Impact
* Public Recognition {While holding the Crown}
* Talent
* Time Period {Era}
* Competition
* Rating of the Reign
* Controversy
* Record
* Avoiding Challengers
* Activity
* Overall Record
* Public Recognition {Before capturing the Crown}
* Public Recognition {Immediately after losing or vacating the Crown}
* Public Recognition {After career is over}
Ali
Ali
Ali
Ali
Cassius
'Rocco Sucks Clay's Cocko'Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
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Bill is so far up his own are he can't see how stupid he appears.
Thru 1985
#1 ........ Jack Dempsey
#2 ........ Joe Louis
#3 ........ Larry Holmes
#4 ........ James J. Jeffries
#5 ........ Rocky Marciano
Back-in-the-Day,
Everybody wanted to be Jack Dempsey.
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What day 1930's? After all we taught you about Jack not fighting the best fighters out there, pimping girls and draft doding you have him up there on you list. Any credibility you had, which was not a lot, is down the toilet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom
Now, that's what I'm talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom
Dempsey sucks. I watched his fight with Williard and it looked like a goddamn toughman competition.
Did you ever see Muhammad Ali fight Rudi Lubbers...........:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
He's too busy day dreaming of being up Beiber's to care what you think of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ali
Louis
Foreman
Tyson
Lewis
You seem to mention Justin Beiber a lot lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoHe's too busy day dreaming of being up Beiber's to care what you think of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Either you are Canadian or a 'catcher' who likes to get pounded.
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"Hey Rocco. I think I left my 'cum' in your ass again my Boy Toy."
"Don't forget to call me. Love Justin."
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomYou seem to mention Justin Beiber a lot lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoHe's too busy day dreaming of being up Beiber's to care what you think of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Either you are Canadian or a 'catcher' who likes to get pounded.
It's the latter. Ruthie has a crush on Beiber.
I don't necessarily disagree with you on your point, but I think it's two separate conversations/discussions. There is a difference between greatness and who would win a fight, in my opinion. Ali beat the best available competition and transcended the sport like no other fighter in history. Holmes was a great champ, but he never really transcended, never unified and never really beat that signature threat (Think Ali vs Liston, Frazier and Foreman). I personally think Larry had all the tools to beat any heavyweight (Riddick Bowe did also in my opinion) on his best night, but I can't place him higher than the others in terms of greatness based on his accomplishments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomQuote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
Larry Holmes would have beaten Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali anytime they fought,
while in the Prime phase of their careers.
In chronologic order:
Jack Johnson
Joe Louis
Rocco Marchegiano
Muhammad Ali
Larry Holmes
There are three that are no-brainers and two that are personal choice. I can see adding any of the following (I'm probably missing a few) as the other two: Jim Jeffries, Gene Tunney, Jack Dempsey, Sonny Liston, George Foreman, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis.
Rocky Marciano (49-0) is clearly #1.
I have Joe Louis at #2.
Muhammed Ali is overrated by many, they don't take his numerous gift decisions into consideration and overrate the era he fought in. But he's still in the top 5. I'd place him at #3.
Wladimir Klitschko (underrated by many) is #4, while Lennox Lewis rounds out my top 5.
I'd have Larry Holmes in the top ten at about #6. Jack Johnson is somewhere closer to #10. Dempsey is overrated and not in my top ten.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom
Damn Bill, forget the whole thing! You're giving me a headache and winning by intimidation.
Holmes
Ali
Louis
Foreman
Lewis
in no order.
Marciano , Tyson , Liston, Holyfield, Wlad would come next
I reckon Vitali had the skill to beat many of these guys
Vitality couldn't land 10 punches on Foreman. If he opened up and tried a 3 punch combination, George would put his lights out.
Vitality couldn't touch Ali. Period.
Marciano at 5 foot 10, 184 pounds.....the size difference would be unfair.