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GGG is a massive gaping pussy!
So GGG by UD.
120-107
120-107
120-107
What weight ??
didnt say, just said it was close to being madeQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Lets not write the old old dog off just yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
I suspect this will be at a catch weight of some sort that really favors Bernard.
Winky Wright and Kelly Pavlik took the bait and it did not end well for them.
Love Hopkins and like GGG a lot as well so this one would be very interesting.
Hopkins would get stopped. No doubt in my mind he think he has the plan to beat GGG but at the same time, he must be high off the smell of his own arse if he thinks he can execute it.
I have to say I really hope this fight doesn't happen! it doesn't matter that Hopkins is a great fighter and is a lot heavier, all this does is give GGG haters a massive reason to slate him even more. And to a degree, you can't blame them, after all , last time he fought he started to look like the 50 year old he is.
GGG has nothing to gain from this except marking time and making money. All I would say, is that if this fight happened, you have to give Hopkins massive respect for taking the fight , just like when he took the Kovalev fight.
Either that, or he's just plain fucking crazy! :)
Sir, you are talking like you think Hopkins is being forced into the fight. I do not believe Hopkins would take the fight if he didn't think he could win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I'm not saying Hopkins is going to win. I'm saying GGG should be as well prepared as possible because Hopkins is a very serious dude and very smart about boxing.
I don't know why people are writing Hopkins off in this one.
Are we forgetting that he has a LONG history of making big punchers look bad?
Are we forgetting that he is a 175lber, and GGG is 160?
Hopkins EXECUTES GGG in Round 8.
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Originally Posted by erics44
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The weight advantage for Hopkins nullifies some of the power of Golovkin and the angles and shoulders should take the edge off some of the rest. The issue is whether or not Hopkins can really wear him down. Kopkins level of activity has dropped over the years and he will have to hold and smother Golovkin a lot and lean on him. Even then You have to wonder if GGG finishes the fight swinging and on his feet, if they will let him lose barring any knockdowns of KO's. Boxing stands to gain more from an attraction like Golovkin who would beat a guy bigger and with a records like Hopkins that it would from a fading legend in his last fight with a much smaller opponent. The idea that theres no shame in GGG losing to a bigger legend like Hopkins does little to reverse the trend (in my mind anyway) of all these primadonnas nursing their "0" in the losses column to being overpaid and underworked in the ring now.
Sir, I am not saying that Hopkins is forced into the fight, nor am I saying that he necessarily gets hammered or even beat. My point was that it's a Lose-lose for GGG.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedSir, you are talking like you think Hopkins is being forced into the fight. I do not believe Hopkins would take the fight if he didn't think he could win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I'm not saying Hopkins is going to win. I'm saying GGG should be as well prepared as possible because Hopkins is a very serious dude and very smart about boxing.
it's not a fight I would like to see , because it has a touch of the Circus show about it , with the age, weight and height differences.
And finally, although I'm not saying Hopkins is forced into the fight, if he genuinely is to fight again, Who would he fight that generates this kind of interest or money? At 50, he quite rightly would only fight if it was worth his while . The only other option would've been Froch, who wasn't interested and retired. Oddly enough, I think Hopkins would've beaten Froch, but we'll never know.
Hopkins is as dangerous as a back alley Tunisian knife fighter.
Good fight. What's the weight?
I'll save my comments on this until I see some kind of conformation.
Wow.
If I were GGG I'd stay the hell away from this fight. It's a LOSE-LOSE all the way. What does he have to gain? Absolutely nothing. He wins... he beat a 50-year old fighter. He loses... he'll have ridicule piled on his head. It's not like he needs any more detractors than he already has. There's plenty of fights to be made out there. BHop should fight his one last fight and retire. I'm sure there's a nice TV commentator job lined up somewhere for him.
No one is slating Kovalev for fighting Hopkins and he was arguably the bigger man.
I think skillwise GGG wouls win anyways, but with the power he'll beat him quite a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkLets not write the old old dog off just yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
I suspect this will be at a catch weight of some sort that really favors Bernard.
Winky Wright and Kelly Pavlik took the bait and it did not end well for them.
Love Hopkins and like GGG a lot as well so this one would be very interesting.
If he can carry it up that is. This has to be made as a super MW fight imo.
GGG is stupid to take this fight. He can not win, even if he wins and it will not further his claim to superstardom that he relishes. Not a smart move if the fights happen.
I like that they're both willing to take a challenge but I'm not sure what winning the fight does for either fighter. GGG wins he beat up a 49 year old man. If Hopkins wins he outclassed a much smaller guy. Hopkins Super-Middleweight Title idea was better for his final fight because he's actually adding to his legacy if he wins it. He wanted Froch but it aint gunna happen now. If Degale is available I think it's a better choice of opponent. I bet Oscar has put this dumbass idea in his head.
So ggg will do what sergey couldnt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
Lmao
ggg needs to fight ward. I see ward winning.
Yeah I'm sure you are :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878So ggg will do what sergey couldnt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
Lmao
GGG has far better ring generalship than Kovalev. Takes up better positions and has better timing and patience. Hopkins will try to smother and holds but at his age, his physicality is diminished and so his efforts will fail.
If this fight took place prior to Kovalev it would garner some excitement. Hopkins still has gas in the tank but not for someone like GGG. Still, I'd watch it.
Ward could fight Hopkins.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
Ward still wants another tune up, he is still not sure what weight he will continue at. I'd like to see the fight but I don't see it happening next.
I also believe Golovkin could be the first to stop Hopkins. But I'll be supporting B-Hop as I quit picking against him a long time ago.
I really don't see a problem with it should it materialize, though I did have to think twice. Fair play to Golovkin as it will be a sizable jump in weight..something all of his detractors have been screaming for... a big step up in comp and a smart play for high profile exposure with a legend. Also if anyone was a blueprint for a spoiler with every trick in the book and a few the ref does not like similar to Ward in the future..its Hopkins! We cannot expect Golovkin to sit around beating up inferior middles and champions who will not fight as a legitimate middleweight forever. Lets see what happens and if it comes to form and what weight we're talking, but its not atrocious.
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
First you have to applaud Bernard Hopkins cojones for even thinking about fighting GGG
Thats the two most dangerous punchers & most feared fighters active today. Just imagine if Mayweather had cojones one quarter the size of Bernards he just might make ATG status
I hope in my heart this fight does not materialize. Don't forget B Hop would be FIFTY years old fighting the worlds most feared fighter. Nard has the skills but he cannot go on for ever. He has nothing left to prove he could retire today with the fantastic ATG legacy Mayweather only wishes he could have. Please do not do it Bernard
I don't want to see a death in the ring.
GGG is milking every drop.
Hagler would have called out ward ages ago.
Did Hagler ever call out Spinks?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Respectively, this is 100% incorrect. Hagler is the prime example for GGG remaining at 160. Hagler stayed at 160 for his entire career. He literally never moved up in weight and was content to remain at 160 until the junior middleweights and welterweights moved up to face him (Duran, Hearns, Leonard). He's renown for the length of his reign and his wins over Duran and Hearns. Just check his boxrec. I would argue that GGG is taking a page out of the Hopkins/Hagler book of boxing in staying at 160.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Hagler never moved up in wieght because he was scared of fucking Spinks and with good reason would got fucked up if he moved up. He did the smart thing and feasted on guys moving up in weight till he fucking lost to Ray Leonard.