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Amazing to think Mancini only had a 6 year career and was retired at 24 (not counting the two comeback fights years later).
Rocky Marciano had an eight year career. 1947-1955, a different era and another mindset.
Rocky didn't have the nutrition and... umm... special "vitamins" that athletes had decades later, otherwise he'd have had a much longer career.
Marciano would whip any heavyweight in any era up to 30 pounds heavier than himself, i.e. up to 214
Richard Steele stop that a bit prematurely?
Were these guys the equivalent to Gatti v Ward, not world class but provided entertainment and heart?
Mancini vs Frias was one of the best world title matches ever, over in one round!
That was the fight I thought I was going to see, so Mancini must have been in a lot of wars?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Yeah he was a true action fighter, good pressure guy too. He had a lot of wars. The Arguello fight was brutal, as was the Duk Kim fight obviously. The two Bramble fights were good. He had a lot of wars, it's good he retired so young because he's still very articulate now.
I think he was a lot like Vinny Paz in his prime, just less of the flashiness. A great action fighter for sure.
grazianoQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
la motta
Marciano
PEP
Paz
mancini
gatti
ITALIAN FIGHTERS FUCKING ROCK
Chacon was former world champ at 126 and 130. He fought Olivares two or three times, Bazooka Limon 4 times, Boza-Edwards, Arguello, and Little Red Lopez. He started at 122 and was past his best by the time off this fight, while Mancini was young and a very strong 135. My friend sparred with Chacon for this fight. Sometime coming up soon, if it hasn't already happened, there is a fundraising benefit being held for him in So. California, at a golf course, I hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I prefer to say when(boxers) use to fight.
Salvador Sanchez boxed with an up in coming Azumah Nelson -who became the professor.
Fought with Danny Lopez brutal wars..
He fought guys in their prime and up in comers.
Boxed, then beat the hell out of Wilfredo Gomez who was young prime and undefeated.
Even though i am not a big Ray Leonard fan, he boxed and could fight when he needed.
Evander was an underrated boxer imo because he ended up fighting instead of sticking and moving.
And the gatekeepers back then could box well and bang like Bobby czyz. Not a great fighter, but when pressed he never backed down.
Elite fighters were more than just boxers. They were fighters when pressed.
Mancini was made of what fighters wanted to be made of but it wasn't the brawl with Bramble the made him slide in the end although he fought really hard, it was the death of Kim just like the death of Paret changed Emile Griffith's style permanently. Conscience slows fighters down as far as ring deaths are concerned.
You forgot a great one.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustgrazianoQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
la motta
Marciano
PEP
Paz
mancini
gatti
ITALIAN FIGHTERS FUCKING ROCK
Brockano
All great, but Pazienza, Mancini and Gatti are the HOLY FUCKING TRINITY of Italian warriors!Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustgrazianoQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
la motta
Marciano
PEP
Paz
mancini
gatti
ITALIAN FIGHTERS FUCKING ROCK
I thought Mancini got robbed in Camacho "fight". Hector did his best impersonation of a pacifist ballerina. Mancini's comeback v Haugen was a sad affair. All I remember is him constantly wiping his hair away as he was being busted up by the Mutt.
He took a brutal beating. All the Italian greats end up taking a brutal beating, usually at the hands of a black guy.
Pazienza vs Uncle Roger and Roy Jones.... ouch!
Gatti vs Floyd..... yikes!
Pep vs Saddler.... kaboom!
Lamotta vs SRR....... gahhh!
Saddler had that effect on people but both deserved to lose in 4th ;D Have you seen Paz v Davis, that was just an absolute gore fest. Under appreciated Davis looked like he was jabbing a huge bag of steak Tartare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
There's still plenty of fights like that nowadays it's just that you down see those type of fights usually when it comes to world class level. Skills pay the bills and idiots get beat the shit out of.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Fighters still fight have seen some of the brutal knock out we have had over the past years. Just because some one does not run his face into a punch does not mean we do not have a fight on our hands. The old days were great but the game has evolved since the 70's come join us here.
Yep the game has evolved some Jack Ass, fighter being a so called great and defending there titleQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
one in a blue moon, and the fan's pay through the nose for the privilege to see him.!
Boxing in general is controlled by PPV and TV networks today, they seem to call the shots and us
fans just have to go along with.!:(
yeah a lot of cherry picking today caused a lot of fights to fall through. Cherry picking has always existed, just not as frequent, so we miss potential great fights.
One of the best one-punch KO's ever... by the Paz man!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvcSMzsTKOM