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Last night made a few people think,! if or when Frampton V Quigg face each other Frampton would
be a sure winner, it seems to me this is a 50/50 fight Quigg looked really good last night, were as
Frampton looked a bit vulnerable,! this is a excellent fight and I am a big fan of both.
There maybe a stumbling block is Frampton struggling at the weight.!:)
Can we also discuss the ring canvas excuse?
I thought the flooring on every boxing ring was the same..can someone confirm the difference.
One thing did me laugh last night. British TV in General, (David Haye in particular) manged to airbrush out Rigondeaux's existence on this planet.
All the talk of unifying all the belts,etc. etc.
No doubt Frampton is most people's favourite, but first McGuigan talks about A-side , B-side, now there's a weight issue. Let's be honest, Frampton is a very good fighter, but a step up in weight will not be easy. He's short enough for Super Bantam, but if he steps up, he's gonna be dwarfed!
I think he needs to stay where he is.
The majority of boxing fans/pundits/comms/journos are so arrogant it's ridiculous. If you've not heard of someone it means they're shit. Five minutes of research would reveal Frampton's opponent looked a good, solid fighter that could punch.
After the early rounds, when Frampton realised the funker was there to rip his head off, he boxed brilliant on the front and back foot.
I was confident Quigg, who is probably my favourite UK fighter (I don't really have favourite fighters but Quigg gets way to much shit for being a nice fella/exciting fighter) would KO Kiko. However, i've always slightly favoured Frampton against Quigg - and, unlike the majority, that was reinforced by what I saw last night.
I thought Rigo was going to 126 for Loma?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Quigg V Frampton makes really good sense, a big money fight for both a very big domestic dust up,
and they would make more money than facing Rigo or Cruz for both party's.
I am pretty sure that either fighter would be up for it tomorrow but Barry would need to swallow his pride, and now Haymon would probably insist it is held in America, with all the plastic Paddies whose great uncles dog once lapped up some spilt Guinness, getting behind Frampton, depsite him being from Belfast.
It's a pity because I have always thought that Quigg would stop Frampton, because he is more methodical, patient and accurate. His balance is better also and that makes a huge difference when two fighters are so evenly matched. Close fight but Quigg has the edge imo.
Beanz plastic paddies;D you have done it now I can see them frothing at the mouth LOL.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Hate did talk a lot of rubbish last night about waiting and the fight could be worth more like Manny v Floyd when everyone knows the fight was way past its sell by date.
After Rigo expressed interest Lomas manager has backtracked about their interest. Fingers crossed. But Rigo can still make 118 no problem, if he goes up to 126 for Loma he can come back to 122 easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnI thought Rigo was going to 126 for Loma?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
We do not know who Rigo is and nor do we want to as it spoils our Quigg v Frampton fight proving who is the best fighter in the world story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonAfter Rigo expressed interest Lomas manager has backtracked about their interest. Fingers crossed. But Rigo can still make 118 no problem, if he goes up to 126 for Loma he can come back to 122 easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnI thought Rigo was going to 126 for Loma?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I really hope it happens. Even though they are on different levels Loma/Rigo and Frampton /Quigg are both close fights on paper, in which it is hard to foretell exactly what will transpire, and who will win. Those are the type of fights that make me want to stay up and watch, they are fascinating propositions and would reflect well on all the fighters even those on the end of a loss. The Loma/Rigo styles are a bit more polar but Frampton/Quigg are also very different and the styles I think would make a fascinating matchup that at some point could not help but end in fireworks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonAfter Rigo expressed interest Lomas manager has backtracked about their interest. Fingers crossed. But Rigo can still make 118 no problem, if he goes up to 126 for Loma he can come back to 122 easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnI thought Rigo was going to 126 for Loma?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Well after last night , Frampton might be going up to 126 as well apparently. So Frampton can avoid Rigo at the next weight up as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnI thought Rigo was going to 126 for Loma?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
THe fights over the weekend havent changed my opinion of how this fight would go. Still think Frampton wins easily. He is a far superior boxer. Only think that has changed in my view is Quigg can hit harder then I thought. Id still be decent odds on Frampton and would back Frampton anywhere close to 50/50
Frampton is not a far superior boxer whichever way you look at it. They are close but Frampton makes a lot of mistakes that Quigg is more than capable of punishing. Either digs enough to win by KO or TKO but Frampton thinks his own farts smell like roses and that will be his downfall. Quigg will never take an opponent for granted. Better schooled, crisper technique, great feet. Carl will probably be denied that big payday by Bary anyway, who too, is deluded enough to think that Carl is the A side and that Quiggs belt means nothing and should be happy with 25%. :-\ What an eejitQuote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Pretty sure Quigg took Salinas for granted. Same with Jamie Arthur. I cant see Quigg causing Frampton any problems. He could win by KO but in terms of boxing its hard to see him winning any rounds. If Frampton boxes smart he wins easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzFrampton is not a far superior boxer whichever way you look at it. They are close but Frampton makes a lot of mistakes that Quigg is more than capable of punishing. Either digs enough to win by KO or TKO but Frampton thinks his own farts smell like roses and that will be his downfall. Quigg will never take an opponent for granted. Better schooled, crisper technique, great feet. Carl will probably be denied that big payday by Bary anyway, who too, is deluded enough to think that Carl is the A side and that Quiggs belt means nothing and should be happy with 25%. :-\ What an eejitQuote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Both lose easily to Rigondeaux.
I now think the fight is more interesting, Quigg looked good he done a better job on Kiko than
Frampton, and Carl looked very much off his game and with him talking about going up in weight
the fight may or may not come off.
A lot of people were making Frampton a favorite, but I have felt it's a 50/50 fight myself.
It's one of those fights that needs to happen for the good of boxing after the bullshit hype job that was Floyd v Pac.
Two really good fighters at the top of their game in an intriguing fight that's difficult to predict. I favour Frampton, but I can't say that with any kind of real certainty. He seems to have a bit more to him and I think he's a tough little fighter who is better equipped to handle pressure and punishment than Quigg.
I dont understand his talk of moving up and it sounds like a knee jerk reaction to not having a spectacular showing. I dont recall ever seeing Alejandro Gonzalez before but damn that kid is a world class fighter and could hang with anyone in the division. Its not like Frampton had issues with some can.