Floyd Mayweather -- OFFICIALLY FIGHTING ANDRE BERTO | TMZ.com
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The only bright side of this piece of scrap fight is Her to, who I like, getting a nice payday. His scrap with the ghost was a good fight. I just can't believe Floyd is now fighting guys he's already defeated opponents at this stage.
I hope all the Mayweather supporters are very proud of their hero.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
Now whoever Khan picks you can tell him what a cherrypicking chickenshit he is because Floyd picked such a dangerous dude.
If it's free on CBS then it's not a huge deal. He had a six fight deal and maybe his determination after the Pac fight has totally diminished. He may just be honoring his last fight on his contract and taking an easy fight. At this point, after beating Pac, he has nothing left to prove and won't further his legacy unless it was against someone like ggg which would obviously not happen at this point of his career.
This is just to much.
This fighter fought his last fight against a 58 and 10 Landberg
This fighter fought his last fight against a 62 and 3 spent Comacho and lost
This fighter fought his last fight against a 73 and 4 more spent Hector and lost
This fighter fought his last fight against 2 and 2 Ignacio Madrid and lost
This fighter fought his last fight against the 58 and 10 Octavio Gomez
This fighter fought his last fight against a 60 and 5 Valdes
This fighter fought his last fight against the 32 and 8 Tom Heeny
I guess thats ok though because all of these guys lost at least once prior to that. Floyd does not get the same pass because he's been undefeated for 17/18 years. But another fought the 17 and 2 Zolino Petelo for his 51st win w/o a loss and that's ok
Makes total sense.
Look the guy has given his entire life to the sport. He was probably on a mini bag before he could walk. Whether one likes him or think he's a scum bag is not even relevant The only difference between him and those other Atg's is that he's hated more. He's earned the right to fight whoever the fuck he wants on his way out the door. And once again if people are going to scrutinize him then lets do the same to all the other fighters of modern times that to this day get nothing but praise with their retirement fight or fights rarely if ever mentioned. If they are mentioned, there is always some attachment to it. Not for Floyd though cause even that has a different bar.
This is a pile of used Walmart furniture sitting by the wood chipper type of fight. If Mayweather comes like the Ndou, Corrales or Ortiz fook you boxer I think he keeps Berto on the stool for "shocker" tko. Really do. This is aimed at the clods who were calling Mayweather v Manny "the fight of the century" and will do awesome views and news, frankly put the sport on the ticker but its attraction event only. When is the last time Floyd was matched with TBA a month + out??? It may very well be Curtis Mayfield or whatever the Mayfields kids name is? Imamu?
Actually more interested in Errol Spence jr on undercard..all the talk of him getting title shot. I honestly thought he would get Berto for interim trinket.
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Originally Posted by IamInuit
This!
First, TMZ has scooped Floyd's opponents wrong more times than Floyd has fought.
Second, if true the guy simply has nothing left to give. There's really no other reason. It does nothing for him. It's a sad ending but most endings in boxing are sad.
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Fuck that.
Motherfucker is tryin for 49-0 and doing it against Berto??
That tells me a couple things.
1. He thinks he can lose, so picked Berto.
2. He doesn't care one little bit about what fans want.
I dont want any one of you pricks on this website to ever again say Khan doesn't deserve a Mayweather fight...... If Berto does then, pretty much every other fighter in the division does.
t.b.e.
He should have at least fought someone top 10.
How many times have you heard Floyd crow about he's the best and no fighter out there can beat him? Plenty is the only answer you can truthfully give, so why doesn't Floyd pick a decent opponent? He won't because he's cherrypicking and has been for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
The truth is I don't care who Floyd fights. The truth is I want Floyd to win. The truth is I'd hate to see Floyd come this close and fail!
The thing that I can't understand is why the fighter so many fans claim is the 'best fighter ever' can choose who he wants to fight, but all those hard working less talented fighters out there have to pick the toughest opponent available or be accused of ducking and/or running. I'm not an idiot, so explain to me how that's right or good for boxing.
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Originally Posted by IamInuit
Fuck that.
Motherfucker is tryin for 49-0 and doing it against Berto??
That tells me a couple things.
1. He thinks he can lose, so picked Berto.
2. He doesn't care one little bit about what fans want.
I dont want any one of you pricks on this website to ever again say Khan doesn't deserve a Mayweather fight...... If Berto does then, pretty much every other fighter in the division does.
And who did Calzaghe finish with? Joes one of my faves but whats the difference and who did Marciano set that record with. Quality of name does not mean quality of fighter. Roy Jones was long gone as was Moore. And just who was Don Cockell?
Mayweather has said multiple times that he has lost his love for the sport. It's all business now. As I said before, the Pac fight was the huge fight everybody was waiting for. Now that it's over, I'm sure that he doesn't have the motivation to fight another tough fighter which is alright. I guess the argument is really should he just retire or fight someone like berto. If he wants to honor his six fight contract then who cares. Let him fight whoever.
Berto is ranked #1 right behind the regular err interim champion of the oldest Org. Rankings are only as good as the crippled organization they represent. Or should I say only matter in the organization you pay pimp fees to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Shows you can be a huge fan... and objective enough to second-guess their decisions at the same time.
Its odd that the same people who were saying Floyd was on a wind up saying he was fighting Berto or Mayfield are now defending his choice of opponent. Whats the opposite of haters gonna hate???
Floyd is joke, sooner he retires the better. Remember he fought Zab Judah after he had lost this is just as bad. Pathetic.
I'm not one for comparisons with other fighters or fight counts, records etc. And i'm not targeting any posts in this thread, mind you but i think a lot less people would have an issue with berto as an opponent if mayweather stepped up and annihilated pacquiao in the last fight in accordance with the amount of garbage he talked. Truth be told, this dislike is a microcosm of the past few years of his career and and a look at his legacy for decades to come. The stat fans/historians will always be able to tout punchstat numbers and etc to speak about his accuracy and how little he was hit cleanly, but many fans will just remember how up till the very end, he talked more about beating people and slapping exercise dummies on twitter and then crippled his opponents with prefight demands on weights, gloves, location (justifiable-- his home town fights that pay more than anywhere else in the US), and other demands and then outpointed opponents with reflex pot shots and counters from behind his shoulder rather than actually asserting himself in the ring and using his speed, footwork, power to walk them down and take advantage of their mistakes...
Even now when searching for a point of enjoyable fights, people are still having to dig all the way back to corrales, gatti, maybe judah or mosely... He's a fighter claiming on camera, the mic, the internet that he can do anything he wants with his opponents and thats why he deserves to get paid what he demands. In the ring he's not reflective of a fighter that believes that. Instead, he does just enough to win a decision in his home town, with his prefight demands met before talking more harsh words to set up another timid performance. The lamenting of these fights is not a condemnation of floyd as much as it is fight fans tired of listening to him talk with conviction and then having to witness him fight to squeak by instead of making a statement because fighting that way would put his "0" at risk.
I don't know any of them I just look at RING and Boxrec.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitBerto is ranked #1 right behind the regular err interim champion of the oldest Org. Rankings are only as good as the crippled organization they represent. Or should I say only matter in the organization you pay pimp fees to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Boxrec has his ass ranked at #20 hahaha.
To me it's just disappointing because in all probably he has 2 fights left in his career. He's the greatest talent to come along in a long time, maybe ever, so of course I want to see him go out against two big challengers.
It'd be different if he was washed up and had lost and dropped off already, but he's still the #1 WW and the #1 p4p in the world. He should be fighting two guys close to his ranking IMO.
I'd say this is even worse than the Judah fight. At least Judah was still a top 5 guy at the weight class when he fought him, even with the upset loss.Quote:
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Is it ppv or free?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI'd say this is even worse than the Judah fight. At least Judah was still a top 5 guy at the weight class when he fought him, even with the upset loss.Quote:
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Free is the only saving grace hahahaQuote:
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I thought he had a contract to fight ppv?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerFree is the only saving grace hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
What is the bet he will claim it will be uhis last fight and no one believes him.
This will be free on CBS and apparently his next fight might be on NBC.
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Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
What you said is true. The thing is, Floyd was constructed. Both his father and his uncle tried and failed to develop a style their own that was based on George Benton. They had limited success. Gretzky dad had limited success as a hockey player but his kid was pushing a chair around the ice before he could walk. They shattered the 10,000 hour rule. So did Floyd. Statistics only prove there are other statistics. Coffee either tastes good or it doesn't.
Floyd is a product of his environment and its never really been about legacy for him. If it was he would have at least unified one of the divisions he fought in. His legacy is money.
My point for bringing up others is to put things into perspective not excuse Floyd for playing safe.
I also wish he fought the same way he did at 130/35 but things change.The fighters get bigger and lets not forget that the object is to hit and not get hit and the use of the ring or ring generalship gets confused these days with running. I swear to the big guy that half of today's fans would prefer phone booths and 3 rd knockout or bust fights.
I dont think Floyd really gives a shit whether or not it would be better for him to some that he have pugilistic dementia. And ftr that kind of brush used against him at times irregardless of the facts is broad and ever present like no other fighter that I have witnessed in my time. Much of it is deserving and much of it not.
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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
I thought for sure it would be one of those two if not Garcia and then after Porter bounced his little brother I thought for sure it would be him. I never expected anything special for 49. I just dont think its his last fight
Btw Floyd still gets his 32 million base pay.
The person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
I'd say that'll end up being more than lucrative for them. The ad revenue they're going to generate for Mayweather's first free fight in 10 years will be off the charts.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThe person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Not $32 million worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI'd say that'll end up being more than lucrative for them. The ad revenue they're going to generate for Mayweather's first free fight in 10 years will be off the charts.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThe person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Cry babies
I said he wouldn't fight them and i said this choice is "sad". Who is defending Floyd other than Iaminuit? And all he is doing is pointing out historical precedent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
They've already turned a HUGE profit on that contract. It worked out better for them than they could have imagined. On PPVs alone they turned a profit but PPV weren't the point from Showtimes perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNot $32 million worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI'd say that'll end up being more than lucrative for them. The ad revenue they're going to generate for Mayweather's first free fight in 10 years will be off the charts.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThe person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
@Ron Swanson did you find the numbers involved with what they made on the contract. I'm just curious. It is very interesting that a Floyd fight will be on network. Funny, his last fight was the highest asked for ppv and now we go for a free view. It will be interesting to see market shares for the fight. I think CBS is reporting they are pleased with the market shares they are getting with boxing events but when I talk sports at work or in public the majority of people I talk to still have no idea of the boxing world. I still pay for both HBO and Showtime primarily for boxing. Especially in Showtimes case, they very rarely have anything that piques my interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonThey've already turned a HUGE profit on that contract. It worked out better for them than they could have imagined. On PPVs alone they turned a profit but PPV weren't the point from Showtimes perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNot $32 million worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI'd say that'll end up being more than lucrative for them. The ad revenue they're going to generate for Mayweather's first free fight in 10 years will be off the charts.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThe person that negotiated the contract for the TV company needs shooting. What a waste on one fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Not a good fight at all but I'm ok with it on free T.V. Dumb move for the network to pay that price, but it's not as insulting to fans on free t.v. While there r better fights for him out there, I'm not sure any fight with Floyd excites me at this point, if I'm being honest. I think Khan vs Brook, Porter vs Thurman, and Bradley vs Garcia r all more interesting at this point (or any match ups of those names). Floyd is brilliant but is too safety conscious these days to provide real excitement.
Calzage ended with B-Hop and RJJ, two greats of the sport!Quote:
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Originally Posted by IamInuit
Fuck that.
Motherfucker is tryin for 49-0 and doing it against Berto??
That tells me a couple things.
1. He thinks he can lose, so picked Berto.
2. He doesn't care one little bit about what fans want.
I dont want any one of you pricks on this website to ever again say Khan doesn't deserve a Mayweather fight...... If Berto does then, pretty much every other fighter in the division does.
And who did Calzaghe finish with? Joes one of my faves but whats the difference and who did Marciano set that record with. Quality of name does not mean quality of fighter. Roy Jones was long gone as was Moore. And just who was Don Cockell?
Hardly the same as Berto is it?
Let me guess B-hop was past it? Despite fighting the best fighters a decade on an winning the world title a couple times?
Sorry Fella but it aint the same thing you're chattin about right now.
Floyd is not TBE! Why? He simply had too much control over his own career and never fought who people wanted.
Everytime Floyd is setting up an opponent there is a preferred few fighters and recently he almost never picks any of them. (Pacquiao saga aside).
We all though It was a joke when he said Berto.... Which means he may have been serious about Mayfield.... Who the fuck is Mayfield??
who gives a fuck about floyd
Yeah... Fighters shouldn't have control over their careers... Who the fuck do they think they are!??
They shouldnt. They should fight who they are told to fight. Boxing needs to be taken away from the "business" bullshit and it could return to being a great sport.Quote:
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