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Now again this is apparently being tweeted so I have no idea how serious it is being discussed but Oscar is in discussion. Perhaps those savvy twits of the twitter world lol could dig up the detail. I've wanted this fight for a year now so I hope it bares fruit.
It would be a very entertaining fight.
I hope it can be made.
Best 2 fighters in the division imo. Bring it on.
Golovkin is busy fighting Ward, Froch, and Lee how is he going to fit this in?
Two a day is what I figure.😇Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Time for David to prove that it is he, not GGG, who is the big puncher in the MW division.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai4MOeu2oDc
Now this would be a fun fight
I got a smile on my face when I read the title of this thread. Hope it comes to pass
Yes a bit like Benn vs. Barkley with GGG playing the part of the dark destroyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Exciting as hell while it lasts.
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Must have come from this interview with Tom Loeffler yesterday (GGG's manager).
Says Golovkin will fight just once more this year. Wants to unify the middleweight belts. Everyone will be pleased with his next fight.
Terrific punch up that wont last 9 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY86FOlmxBM
Lemiuex is a modern day Julian Jackson.
It seems that Oscar has been in talks with Loeffler according to ESPN and the Lemieux fight might well be the one to take place in Autumn rather than next year as hinted at above and in the OP
GGG-Lemieux unification fight in discussions - Dan Rafael Blog - ESPN
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"Right after Montreal slugger David Lemieux dropped Hassan N'Dam four times in a unanimous decision victory to win a vacant middleweight world title on June 20, Lemieux's promoters, Oscar De La Hoya of Golden Boy and Camille Estephan of Eye of the Tiger, said they were interested in a unification fight with fearsome Gennady Golovkin -- but not until next year.
De La Hoya said Lemieux (34-2, 31 KOs) would fight again in the fall but in his mandatory defense -- even though the identity of his mandatory challenger had not even been set yet.
Of course, being that Lemieux has the IBF title, he could bypass the mandatory in favor of Golovkin because the IBF clearly states in its rules that it will allow a unification fight to go before a mandatory defense.
But it seemed as though Golovkin (33-0, 30 KOs), who none of the big names are rushing to fight, was going to have to look for another opponent. He would like any unification fight or even super middleweight champion Andre Ward, although that is a very hard deal to make and seems unlikely for the fall.
Now it seems, however, that the prospect of a Golovkin-Lemieux unification fight -- a very fan-friendly fight and one HBO would love to put on (and one that will cost the network a pretty penny) -- has a chance of happening. Both sides acknowledge that they are at least talking about a deal.
Hey, if you don't talk nothing will get done, so at least having dialogue is a great start.
"We're exploring options for David Lemieux and discussing things with Tom Loeffler [Golovkin's promoter from K2 Promotions]," De La Hoya told ESPN.com this week. "We'll see if we can make it. I'll sit down with [Golden Boy vice president] Eric Gomez and see if it's even possible. But my mind is always open to giving fans the best fights and this is one of the best fights."
Estephan has also heard the fan demand for the GGG-Lemieux fight and is interested in making it but with the age-old caveat: As long as the money is right.
"Everyone is asking when are we going to see David versus Golovkin? Well when the financials are right we will do it," he said. "No doubt in my mind it would be one crazy fight. Obviously, fans want to see. We would not go in there if we didn't believe that David could hurt Golovkin. David is that throwback fighter that people love and in his last performances he showed that he could box, showed an excellent jab, showed that he has the endurance to be firing bombs from round 1 through 12, and those bombs hurt people.
"We can literally say that David is in the hurt business. Believe me, we think David will hurt Golovkin. Golovkin is certainly a great fighter, but without wanting to divulge our strategy we feel very good about our chances. People want to see Golovkin tested and we are willing if it makes business sense. We are talking and the door is open. Having said that, we are well aware that David is only 26 and is getting better day by day where Golovkin is now 33. So time is on our side. We're not in a rush.
As for Golovkin camp, GGG, Loeffler, trainer Abel Sanchez and the rest of the team have wanted nothing more than to fight big fights and unification fights. Golovkin has said it time and again. He was willing to move up to super middleweight last summer to fight Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., who declined a huge offer. Golovkin was also willing to go to England to face Carl Froch, who never took it very seriously and retired.
"It has always been GGG's priority to unify all the titles in the middleweight division," Loeffler said. "If we can make a fight with Lemieux, he would be one step closer to his goal."
And, if they can make that fight, we're all in for a treat."
Love that this fight happens... lots of suspense...
Does Lemmy drop GGG?
Does GGG Drop Lemmy?
Does GGG decide after catching a hard shot, that its wiser to box more?
Does Lemmy do something to try and Bait GGG into a slugfest?
Does this become a matthysse/ Provo kind of fight?
The pure suspense of finding the who? what? when? and how? during a fight instead of Knowing who's already going to win because one of the fighters has no hope, will get potshotted, held, walked over, weigh drained, headbutted, rehydrates 25lbs or robbed by a home town decision....
;D In other words; a proper fight.
I think the difference is Golovkins chin Is solid where lemieux chin isn't
I like Lemieux but this would be a suicide fight for him. He can punch but Golovkin has a solid chin and cuts the ring off a lot better than Lemieux. If he can't hurt Golovkin he'll have to go in reverse and if that happens there'll only be one winner.
Buildings are solid too... until they get hit with a wrecking ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012
Although I agree that David does not win the chin-off, the biggest puncher the Kaz has faced thus far was Stevens and I dont recall how good or even if he landed flush. David hits harder then Curtis. That's the mystery for me because Davids going to land and one punch can change a fight. Davids a fast starter and loves to work inside and the Kaz is a slow starter that likes to break people down. Distance will be key with T-Rex's sawed off reach. Davids got to get in range and be first. There are no better matchups in this division regardless of the celebrity of others. This is a fight between the two best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012
Really hope this comes off but I think Lemiuex is being overrated by some here.
He's been matched very carefully to regain his confidence n look sensational since Rubio stopped him years ago.
It'll be exciting but he won't beat GGG.
If Cotto is considered this lineal champion and Ring ranks him at #1 then I'm not over the top at all. I sincerely believe that he's the second best in the division at this level right now Julian Jackson chin or not. Oh there are some up and comers in fact several but I'm talking at the precipice right now. I think Charlo is a few fights away and he will be dominant and that Chudinov kat is pretty good but of all the "prize" fighters right now I think its 1 and 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
The Chudinov you're referring to (Fedor) is a Super-Middle. His brother Dmitry is a middle and was well beaten and stopped by Eubank Jr. I agree this is the most exciting fight to be made and I want good things for David but my opinion is that it is too early to make this fight. I think he needs 1 or 2 defences before going in there with Golovkin. Id say the same thing about Danny Jacobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitIf Cotto is considered this lineal champion and Ring ranks him at #1 then I'm not over the top at all. I sincerely believe that he's the second best in the division at this level right now Julian Jackson chin or not. Oh there are some up and comers in fact several but I'm talking at the precipice right now. I think Charlo is a few fights away and he will be dominant and that Chudinov kat is pretty good but of all the "prize" fighters right now I think its 1 and 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Yeah it was Dmitry and I know about Jr. I still think he's a good one and David lost to a shot Alcine. Shit happens. The time is now for David. He's close to 27 which is old for those who fight like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnThe Chudinov you're referring to (Fedor) is a Super-Middle. His brother Dmitry is a middle and was well beaten and stopped by Eubank Jr. I agree this is the most exciting fight to be made and I want good things for David but my opinion is that it is too early to make this fight. I think he needs 1 or 2 defences before going in there with Golovkin. Id say the same thing about Danny Jacobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitIf Cotto is considered this lineal champion and Ring ranks him at #1 then I'm not over the top at all. I sincerely believe that he's the second best in the division at this level right now Julian Jackson chin or not. Oh there are some up and comers in fact several but I'm talking at the precipice right now. I think Charlo is a few fights away and he will be dominant and that Chudinov kat is pretty good but of all the "prize" fighters right now I think its 1 and 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
He's looking for cash and even if he gets beat it does not hurt him financially. Nobody else can beat the guy either and they wont even fight him. Shit he might get a Cotto fight or be a great gate keep. He's in his prime and the Kaz is coming 34.
Quick question because i do not remember but has GGG ever been hurt just asking because his fights end in brutal ko a lot of the time. Has he ever been rocked bad or deck or anything great fight so we can unify the belt since Cotto wont fight GGG. I am looking forward to this fight should be a good one with a better level fighter. GGG has pretty much fought everyone in the division after this so it is cleared out if he wins i wonder if he going to move up or try to get a money fight with Cotto or Ginger. I would still like to see the Ward and GGG fight as well though.
GGG has taken some big punches, but he just brushes them off and keeps walking after you. Some people would say he's been hit too easily for a fighter as highly regarded as he is, and that's probably a fair comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
But because he's such a ferocious puncher , his rock hard chin hardly gets noticed. this is why I think at MW he is nigh on unbeatable. First you have to avoid his power for 12 rounds , then you have to try to hurt the guy!
Agreed for the most part. I don't think he gets hit to much. I think thats a bit of an urban legend. He's willing to take one to get one on occasion because of that chin. I think one of the most overlooked aspects of the guy is his boxing savvy. Its going to be hard for T-rex to get in there without getting plugged with those stubs he has for arms but he has to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraGGG has taken some big punches, but he just brushes them off and keeps walking after you. Some people would say he's been hit too easily for a fighter as highly regarded as he is, and that's probably a fair comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
But because he's such a ferocious puncher , his rock hard chin hardly gets noticed. this is why I think at MW he is nigh on unbeatable. First you have to avoid his power for 12 rounds , then you have to try to hurt the guy!
Golovkins never been dropped in he's career professional or amature. Lemieux has been stopped before. He even got rocked by Rosado. It's really a no Brainer I mean yeah great match up two power punchers but it'll only last as long as Lemieux chin holds up.
It's not going to be like being clocked by Geale and still having no problem landing the finishing punch. I think Golovkin and his team though, will be more than aware of Lemieux's power and they will make sure that it's David pulling the Curtis Stevens face early before GGG ends it. Lemieux for all his power is nowhere near someone like Murray, either defensively or in his ability to take punishment and so without the feet to get away, he will find himself stuck in the corner and Gennady will deploy that swingball like metronomic hooking barrage, like a hyperactive Newton's cradle from hell, and the Canadian monster will fall, along with a nations hopes and dreams. Either that or GGG gets complacent and walks into one of the handsome Godzillas bombs and gets sparked tfo.
Handsome Godzilla lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
I'll go ahead and say this fight won't be competitive if it happens, don't see why it won't look like the Curtis Stevens fight again. Lemiuex probably has a good bit more power, but he'd be looking to do the same thing and would be on the receiving end of the same thing.
I wouldn't be surprised if Golovkin throws caution to the wind and realizes the PR opportunities of making this a Matthysse/Provo affair to scoop up the loose fans still disappointed with may/pac, klitch/jennings, and other fights that didnt live up to the hype. If he decided to freight train monroe for the fans enjoyment... he's got a golden opportunity here for a barn burner. Lemmy's no monroe though when it comes to trading...
That decision could turn out to be a blessing or a curse.
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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
So your prediction is that either GGG will win, or Lemieux will win.
That's assuming Lemieux even has enough skill to time Golvokin that well, himself. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
It's pretty clear in my post what I am saying. Unless he gets complacent GGG will overwhelm and stop Lemieux. He is so much better that he would need to carelessly walk onto something huge for the Canadian to win. It's highly unlikely but this is boxing and anything can happen. That is not the same as sitting on the fence.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
So your prediction is that either GGG will win, or Lemieux will win.
Always good to hedge your bets ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanSo your prediction is that either GGG will win, or Lemieux will win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
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Originally Posted by BeanflickerAlways good to hedge your bets ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanSo your prediction is that either GGG will win, or Lemieux will win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
First rule of fence-sitting.
That IF is what makes boxing irresistible to most of us. We want to know/see all about that IF.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
That IF is what fuels boxing, in my opinion.
Even when you are positive about who the winner will be, you still have to watch to see IF you are right.
Everyone's talking about GGG's chin, but I think you're gonna see Lemieux also go hard to the body and break GGG down.
And what, slip all of Golovkins punches at the same time? Outlast him? Lemiuex can't take a fraction of what he dishes out and he isn't nearly defensively sound enough to have anything but a punchers chance here. THe N'dam fight was awesome of course, but what does it say that Lemieux couldn't finish a guy he could hurt that easily, and actually looked the worse for wear in the 12th round? N'dam has no chin and no punch either, just good skills and a ton of heart. GGG has all of those things to spare.