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I'm so sick of seeing good worthy fighters get robbed. this judging was a disgrace to the sport and those judges should be fired. Yunie was new, an underdog, and he fought great and had great heart, and took some huge shots and came back even harder. NO WAY did pascal deserve that decision. its one of the worst decisions in last few years.
... a robbery that robbed boxing. Apparently Pascal was being promoted by Krusher Pomotions, Sergey's promotion company. Sooooo...Quote:
Originally Posted by #1FightFan
Furthermore, a Kovalev fight with Gonzalez is MUCH more appealing, to me at least, than a rematch with Pascal when we know Pascal will be beaten again by Kovalev.
Gonzalez is a guy to watch.
Puzzling decision for sure. Some of us were saying it was close but most of us were saying a definite win for Gonzalez. So what do we get, a unanimous decision for Pascal.
Not the worst decision I've seen but definitely a bad one. It smells like corruption.
They way Gonzalez cried after the fight just tore me up... just tore me up... damnit, these crooked judges have no fucking heart. No fucking shame!!!!
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Although not on the scale of Oscar vs. Trinidad, or Roy Jones at the 88 Olympics, in terms of how high profile it was/is, it is just as much of a naked shame of a robbery it was.
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The only other non-title fight I can think of that came close to this was Emanuel Augustus vs. Courtney Burton 1. Augustus came back to stop Burton in their second match.
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I had Gonzales up by one point. 96/95. 5-4-1.
im right there with you. i felt REALLY bad for the guy. all he went through just to get that shot, and that happens? total bullshit. i love boxing but the corruption is out of control in usa boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Because it is only USA boxing that has bad decisions ^ (pffft)
I wanted to agree with Twilight for once but he had to make it silly
I thought he won, but I'm not sure it was a robbery. There's a difference.
Yeah I agree, I watched it again and I had it 6-4 Gonzalez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
The wrong guy got the nod IMO, but technically too close to be a full blown "robbery".
In watching again, I have no idea how anyone could have Pascal winning 6 of those 10 rounds though.
Not a robbery but Gonzalez did deserve a close victory, in my opinion.
Bad decision in my opinion Gonzalez won the fight. Pascal got the decision to set up a rematch with Krusher
I had Gonzalez ahead, I thought they would call it a draw. Didn't think Pascal did enough to get the win. I'd like to see a rematch it was a nice fight
I had it 8-2 Gonzalez. Pascal was outworked, outlanded, getting the worse of the exchanges, forced to retreat the entire fight etc. Gonzalez won that fight easy and thus a robbery. Nobody has Pascal winning which means it must be a robbery. The best I've seen argued is that there were some close rounds, so Pascal gets all of those AND some gifts? A horrible thing to do to an undefeated fighter like that. Not even close.
I just don't get who the fuck wants to see a Jean Pascal/Kovalev rematch, even if Pascal knocked Gonzalez out in 30 seconds.
Am I fucking crazy, or did Jean Pascal take the worst beating of his career and get BRUTALLY stopped in 8 rounds vs Kovalev?
He had some good moments against Kovalev but there were two things that were CONCLUSIVELY proved in that fight...
a) Jean Pascal, although he's very strong and explosive, is not a big puncher and doesn't have the power to bother Kovalev.
b) Jean Pascal has a great chin and is tough as nails, but he cannot handle Kovalev's power.
Am I crazy? Am I misremembering the fight??
Gonzalez landed just 9 more punches according to CompuBox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I thought Pascal got the better of most exchanges.
Going backwards doesn't mean you're losing.
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Originally Posted by FensterGonzalez landed just 9 more punches according to CompuBox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I thought Pascal got the better of most exchanges.
Going backwards doesn't mean you're losing.
Not if youre Floyd Mayweather that's for sure. LOL He was afraid to engage a seriously injured opponent yet still won
I completely agree about the going backwards part-it's called BOXING.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterGonzalez landed just 9 more punches according to CompuBox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I thought Pascal got the better of most exchanges.
Going backwards doesn't mean you're losing.
However, Pascal lost this fight 6-4 and possibly 7-3. He was out worked and hit clean far too often to win. I was rooting for him though. He just couldn't hurt or discourage Gonzalez.
It is called boxing, but when your opponent is landing the more telling blows, landing more and throwing more, then you typically lose rounds. Fact.
Precisely what I said old top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
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Originally Posted by C.J.Rock
Seems like the rematch will have to wait as it's Beterbiev-Krusher lining up next.
I thought Pascal landed the more significant blows.
I wouldn't call landing nine more punches over the course of 10 rounds that significant either. That's less than one more punch per round landed.
However, Gonzalez did throw significantly more punches, which means he missed significantly more than Pascal did.
Not making a case for Pascal winning, I thought a draw was fair, and have no problem with Gonzalez being the winner. It wasn't a robbery though.
If a fighter wins 2 rounds out of 10 and most of the people watching the fight have the guy who won most of the rounds winning the fight, then you have to call it a robbery. It simply was not a close fight. I don't think I have seen anyone except the judges say that Pascal won the fight. It was a complete City of London.
You are the only person i've seen score just two rounds for Pascal. The majority have scored rounds for Pascal that you didn't.
Which means...
Either you were biased against Pascal?
Your judgement is suspect?
Pascal's body language at the end of the rounds and the end of the fight said it all.
It's not as if he started crying or anything 😀 Pascal from midway was landing the more solid shots for sure.
It was a close fight and in no way the landslide win/robbery people are saying.
Who are the majority? I was supporting Pascal early on, but changed my mind when I saw that he wasn't even trying. My judgement is impeccable and in tune with the masses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster