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I think Eddie has struggled big time to get an opponent over here for lesser money and who will agree to a rematch clause so this is what they end up with. Chaves is tough, but it'll look bad on Kell if he struggles with him considering Thurman stopped him and Bradley was robbed in a draw with him.
Chavez is tough, but Kell Brook is a World Champion and nothing less than a convincing victory will do. His standard of opponents is getting slowly better, but not quick enough so that people will gradually start to forget how good his victory over Porter in his own country was. He can't live on that forever.
If Brook gets through this, his next fight MUST be Thurman, Bradley or Pacquiao. If it's Khan, so be it, but I'm fucking bored with all that rubbish already.
It's not just Brook I'm getting at here, it's all the top WW's. When Floyd retires, these guys all have to step up to the plate and start fighting
each other.
They all seem scared to lose in fear of dropping down the pecking order and missing an opportunity to cash in on a Mayweather or Pacquiao fight.
Well said Primo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Im sick of all this bollocks as well.
Fight each other and stop waiting on floyd.
Force floyd through your work by beating everyone.
Lets get a super 6 for the 147 division..
Khan
Garcia
Bradley
Thurman
Brook
Porter
(Pac or broner)
If Eddie can't afford to get Rios over here - when they have PPV lined up - then Brook might need to go back across the pond before getting a major fight. Unless Khan stops swerving him of course.
This is a good fight but he won't get the credit he should if he wins.
Agree totally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I'm hearing Khan/Thurman is now getting heated up. One last ditch effort to get number 50 I suppose in his mind even though imo the Mayweathers didn't and don't want anything to do with him. At least now he can claim to save face that while he was jawing with Thurman, Brook was fighting his leftovers.
Agreed. Better still, Involve Pac and Broner and make it a straight knockout, quarter finals, semis and Final!Quote:
Originally Posted by impWell said Primo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Im sick of all this bollocks as well.
Fight each other and stop waiting on floyd.
Force floyd through your work by beating everyone.
Lets get a super 6 for the 147 division..
Khan
Garcia
Bradley
Thurman
Brook
Porter
(Pac or broner)
Khan - Brook will happen if they keep on winning but it won't happen until next summer. Between now and then expect more of the same in terms of level of competition.
Brook-Chaves is a good fight. It's not as good as the Porter fight though, especially after seeing Porter thrash Broner. Brook needs a fight with Bradley or Thurman. He beats both.
It really is interesting. Some of the deepest talent in a few years and everyone is finding ways not to fight each other. I can see Brook and Khan actually waiting out the need to fight or the public's interest in seeing it.
We get
Thurman/Paulie
Brook/Chaves
Bradley/Rios
Khan/who knows
Floyd/Berto
Its pathetic when one really thinks about it.
Realistically the Khan fight isn't going to happen until next summer now anyway if they want it to be a stadium fight so i'm happy with this match up. It's a harder fight than Rios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
The point is - the big names wont come over here for Brook because they're all currently on 7-figure purses for "doddles" in the States.
Brook's only realistic current big fight is Khan.
So why on earth does Brook not just get over to America and fight some names? Go for the money, the glory, and come back home when all is conquered. Name fighters are simply not going to want to come to the UK. The UK has bad weather, early stoppages, and infamous fights like Khan/Barrera. Fighters only get tempted when their careers are slipping (Toney) or they think the British fighter is shot (Calzaghe/Lacy). Might as well just get out there to the states and beat them all up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I thought Alexander had lined up a fight with Chaves?
Not the top shelf sort of opponent for Brook but a solid opponent none the less.
I think it is a bit of a risky fight for Brook, chaves is fairly good but not really that famous and only has 1 win out of his last 4, I don't think he'd win but I think theres a good chance he could make Brook look bad especially if he uses his dirty tactics :S.
Not sure where all of this Chaves fights dirty comes from. He just fought two of the dirtiest fighters in the sport and merely got in the gutter with them. The guys got a set and he may not be a world beater but I wish some of these other posers would step up like he has and fight anybody anywhere. Brook has got the toughest fight out of the lot that occupy the top of the food chain. He best be on his A-GAME because Chaves is a real legit gate-keeper
Funk that! Contrary to what many fans like you believe boxing is not an American sport. The onus should be on the challenger to travel not the champion. Barring Floyd/Pac every other welter should be expected to come to the UK. Brook is not just the IBF champion but he's top rated by every reputable publication.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSo why on earth does Brook not just get over to America and fight some names? Go for the money, the glory, and come back home when all is conquered. Name fighters are simply not going to want to come to the UK. The UK has bad weather, early stoppages, and infamous fights like Khan/Barrera. Fighters only get tempted when their careers are slipping (Toney) or they think the British fighter is shot (Calzaghe/Lacy). Might as well just get out there to the states and beat them all up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Big names can earn the money in this country with Brook. However, why would you fight Brook for a million quid when you can earn a million quid fighting a much lesser foe?
Brook fighting someone who has just lost to Rios and Bradley?
Chaves loss to Rios shouldn't really count. He was winning when he got chucked out. Bit harsh too, Rios and Garcia did a number on the ref with the constant bitching
People just need to be more patient. Everyone knows that the "Fight Floyd Sweepstakes" had put a lot of these potential fights at a standstill. When Floyd retires and the smoke clears, they'll start to fight one another more frequently...
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Originally Posted by Master
He drew with Bradley , he didn't lose.
I think most observers thought he did lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
He drew with Bradley , he didn't lose.
Most observers but not the judges , you don't lose rating points from the opinion of fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think most observers thought he did lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
He drew with Bradley , he didn't lose.
Apparently this will be made official today along with the Fury-Klit PPV.
Chaves has done some serious homework on Brook --- Kell Brook to fight Diego Chaves in Sheffield on Oct. 24 - Ring TV
Have sky done their quota 3 ppv fights this year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
December 12th will be their 4th of the year.
Unfortunately however much you cry and scream about it, PPV clearly works otherwise they wouldn't be increasing them.
The only reason they are pushing it because they have to make back the money they overpaid for the football contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
After the Haye fiasco and Klit fight I believe they were not going to make as much ppv fights.
That was four years ago before SKY signed an exclusive deal with Matchroom and Eddie Hearn took over British boxing.
PPV is a dodo bird looking for that last female to bang or in this case the last sucker to blood-let. Most of the people that buy them don't even follow the sport. Oh it will hold out on some national levels. I mean look how long that circus fake WWF lasted. Hell it out sold boxing ppv's. They will figure out some way to hose us in the future but PPV as we have known it wont exist in a decade.
Back to the fight.
Brook is a by far the most talented of the bunch but a thought process has returned that I had dismissed after his last two fights. I am back to questioning his self confidence. I'm not sure why the Rios fight would get dumped on a rematch clause. Why did he feel he needed a rematch clause fighting at home against Rios? Its a voluntary defense so the Ibf would have most likely ordered one anyway. I'm sure the other top dogs never even considered a fight in London since they are making 7 figures fighting softies on Haymon tv.
Chaves most likely jumped at it like a life raft after all they called him the jewel early on and he has failed to deliver while expected to rise along with his amateur buddies Maidana and Mathysse. He also I am sure must consider the mandatory rematch clause as a sign of weakness. Are they expecting another Carson Jones moment? Don't get me wrong, I think Brook should beat Chaves but the demand for a rematch clause is troublesome. Skills may pay the bills but the brain is the conductor.
Surely they can't justify this being PPV now.
Eubank jr's opponent is Tony Jeter (yeah, exactly). Three round job, max.
Ricky Burns-TBA
McDonnell-Parodi for Euro title.
That's it. Two and half weeks out.
I don't know. It would not be the first time Eddie has sold horse shit pretending it's already roses. In fact Bellew / Cleverly was barely a bunch of daffs. Dandelions maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Even the Bellew-Clev PPV had two "world" title fights - Quigg, McDonnell, DeGale, Groves, AJ and C. Smith.
They've removed Burns now.
No way they PPV this with the Klit-Fury/AJ-Whyte PPV's coming up.
It probably won't be ppv now, but whether it is or not, Hearn and Sky are gonna come in for loads of stick and rightly so. With shit like Bellew/Clev, they've milked the fuck out of it, regardless of the undercard. It's the main event that counts.
I tried to explain that in Britain we get ripped off, and loads of people disagreed.
In the U.S., they pay more for a ppv event, but there are very few ppv fighters, only the absolute elite.
If Hearn/Sky put together ppv packages based on quantity rather than quality, there's always a risk that this happens.
The main event is what counts to the casual fan (that's why the sell is aimed at them), not to people like me though.
I don't mind paying £20 for a night of even matched fights between top fighters, like the O2 card earlier in the year headlined by Brook-Gavin. I knew Brook-Gavin was a borderline mismatch but I bought it for Linares-Mitchell, Selby-Grad, AJ-Kingpin, Blackwell-Ryder and Ryan-Hibbert.
If Wlad-Fury doesn't have a proper undercard I won't buy it. I'll just ponce a stream. I didn't buy Floyd-Pac. Single events mean nothing to me when i'm forced to buy it.
The AJ-Whyte PPV currently has Eubank jr-Spike O' Sullivan (probable), Mitchell, Campbell and Bellew scheduled for the card. I'll buy it.
Confirmed for Sky Sports 1
Fury-Wlad is the PPV (obviously)
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Nathan Cleverly travels to the States for his crunch clash with American-based Pole Andrzej Fonfara in Chicago, while Sam Eggington tops a huge bill in Birmingham - both live on Sky Sports 1
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November 28 - Klitschko v Fury, DeGale v Bute
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