Luigi Musina
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Bill's Back!!!!!! Welcome my friend, I speak on behalf of the many that have missed you. 😀
Hey Bill, welcome back. How was your exile. You have a lot of knowledge for us younger guys. Just forget about that particular fighter who's name begins with an A. Use caution as I've seen some get a temp ban only to come back and get a permo ban but enough with the lecture, welcome back. If you need to get something off your chest use the other boards.
Do not speak for me. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Luigi Musina
Hometown > Gorizia, Ialy
A superbly conditioned boxer-puncher, who had a good set of {Canoli's} biceps.
A 6' 0" Light-Heavyweight, who occasionally jumped up to Heavyweight.
By November 21, 1945 >
The 5 1/2 year Professional {Age; 30 years, 11 months} had compiled a fine record of
28-5-4 with {14 KO's}.
Luigi was a 'rock', as he had never been dropped or stopped in his 37-Bout career.
Included was winning the Italian Light-Heavyweight Championship on June 27, 1941 > a title
he still held after 4 1/2 years.
Also, Luigi had won the European Light-Heavyweight Championship {April 5, 1942}, but he
vacated the Title in February 1943 to enter into an Eliminator for the European Heavyweight
Championship.
Now was the 'big one', a bout with former Heavyweight Champion and 'come-backing'
Primo Carnera.
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Welcome back, Mr. Paxtom, as you can see you were missed!
The Big Fight
Wednesday ~ November 21, 1945
Sports Palace {Pallazo dello Sport} ~ Milan, Italy
Attendance ......... 7000
Luigi Musina ~ 28-5-4 {14 KO's} ~ 6' 0" ~ 184 lbs. ~ {Age; 30 years, 11 months}
vs.
Primo Carnera ~ 88-11-0 {71 KO's} ~ 6' 6" ~ 266 lbs. ~ {Age; 39 years, 1 month}
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Primo Carnera was coming back after retiring from Professional Boxing on November 18, 1937.
After 7 1/2 years in the {Military} Italian Army and then the Professional Wrestling ranks, Primo
had decided on a comeback in July 1945, and the former Heavyweight Champion had won '2-Straight'.
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'The Italian Skinny'
Luigi Musina >
"I am no pushover for Primo. He made a huge mistake in signing to fight me. I can box circles around
him. He's too old and too slow now. I don't care what kind of shape that he's in, there is in no way in
Hell that he can beat me."
"I'll end Primo's comeback. I'll beat him up, and then put him away late."
Primo Carnera >
"I may be old, but I still can fight. I'm stronger than ever, and now I'm a much smarter fighter. I'm smart,
like an old Italian Bear looking for honey."
"I don't see much of a problem with Luigi. I'll take a few Rounds to wear him down, and then unload
'Da Preem' in Round 5. I'll end it with a left-right to the chin."
So Bill, this Ali fella, can you share your thoughts and opinions about him?
Wednesday ~ November 21, 1945
Palazzo Dello Sport ~ Milan, Italy
Attendance ............. 7000
Gate Receipts ......... $26,500 {U.S. Dollars}
~ Primo Carnera Loses In Comeback Bid ~
~ Luigi Musina Flattens Carnera In Seventh ~
Luigi Musina completely out-classed former Heavyweight Champion - Primo Carnera
and stopped the lumbering 39 year-old in Round 7.
Musina, out-weighed by 80 lbs. drove the former Champion to the canvas 'twice' in the
opening Round, by slamming hard right-hands into Carnera's chin.
Musina then proceeded to box the lumbering Giant's ears off in every Round, and had Carnera
'wobbling' after every solid punch.
In Round 7, Musina drove Carnera backwards with a series of hard-punches, that had the
come-backing fighter in deep trouble while backed up along the Ropes.
The former Champion tried to fight his way out of danger, and moved away from the Ropes.
But Musina caught Carnera with a 'jolting' left-hook, sending the 'Ambling Alp' stumbling backwards
and into the Ropes, where he went down to avoid getting hit.
Carnera got up at the '6-Count', but the Referee called a halt to the bout as Carnera wanted to quit
and made no effort to continue.
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Promoter > Aldo Viasco
"Primo Carnera is no longer a good fighter. He is totally inept, and has a 'glass jaw'. He was wobbled by
every punch he took. He is not even a good draw anymore. We were expecting 12,000 spectators tonight,
and only drew 7000."
"We lost {$7000 in U.S. Dollars} tonight. We had to give Primo Carnera {$12,000}, and that left us very
little for our costs to stage this bout. I will not offer Primo a rematch-bout. He is a complete inferior fighter."
Now, now, oh great Master, stop trying to coax Billy Boy into a permanent ban. Give him some time! 😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Whoa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNow, now, oh great Master, stop trying to coax Billy Boy into a permanent ban. Give him some time! 😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
> Who is the Ali fella, and what did he do for a living ?
> Was he a Professional Wrestler in Japan ?
I don't think Bill is a human. I think he is a spam message.
nice witty comeback their Bill you have put all the trouble makers in their place with one graceful left jabQuote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomWhoa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNow, now, oh great Master, stop trying to coax Billy Boy into a permanent ban. Give him some time! 😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
> Who is the Ali fella, and what did he do for a living ?
> Was he a Professional Wrestler in Japan ?
Graceful like an Ali jab,Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustnice witty comeback their bill you have put all the trouble makers in their place with one graceful left jabQuote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomWhoa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNow, now, oh great Master, stop trying to coax Billy Boy into a permanent ban. Give him some time! 😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
> Who is the Ali fella, and what did he do for a living ?
> Was he a Professional Wrestler in Japan ?
sting like a butterfly and float like a bee.
There is only one that is the greatest
and his name is Ali.
Thursday ~ November 22, 1945
Milan, Italy
Associated Press
~ Primo Carnera Says He Was Forced To Quit By A Spectator With A Gun ~
Former Heavywoeght Champion - Primo Carnera who was stopped last night by Luigi Musina
in the 7th Round in his come-back bid, claimed he was forced to quit by gun-point.
Primo Carrnera
"In the dressing room before the bout, we were told that the bout was cancelled, due to
unruly fans. I was told to get dressed, and to forget about the fight. Then 15-Minutes later,
we were told that the bout was back on, so I took off my clothes and put back on my boxing
gear."
"Then the Promoter told us that he didn't have my final purse payment, and that I had to
wait another 30-Minutes for him to get the money from a local banker. While I was waiting,
it got real cold in the Dressing Room, so I had a large glass of Cognac to warm me up. Then
I had '2' cigarettes."
"Then we were told that the bout was on, as the Promoter {Aldo Viasco} had gotten the rest
of my fight purse. When I walked out of the Dressing Room, the Arena {Sports Palace} was
real cold, almost freezing. All the spectators had their coats on. As I was walking down the aisle
and got near Ring, a 'drunk spectator' opened up his coat, and pulled out a pistol, and pointed
it at me."
He said > "You better not win Primo, or you'll never get out of the Ring alive."
"I was un-nerved, and got real upset. I was really nervous when I got up in the Ring. When the
fight started, I was not worried about my opponent, as I was looking at the people at Ringside,
trying to see if anyone was aiming a pistol at me."
"Next thing I know, I was on the canvas. Then again a 2nd-time in the 1st Round. I didn't even
try to fight, as I was worried about getting shot in the Ring."
"At the end of the 6th Round, I didn't want to go on anymore, but my cornermen pushed me
out to fight at the start of the 7th Round. I let Luigi hit me at will, and finally I went down. I
told the Referee that I didn't want to fight anymore."
"I want a rematch. This time with protection, and under proper circumstances. I want a return
bout. I was in good shape last night, but the conditions were not proper."
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Welcome back. Try to keep it together this time. Hahahaha!
True Story as reported by the Associated Press
November 21, 1945
Primo Carnera Was Threatened At Pistol Point By An Unruly Spectator.
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A rematch was set up 4-Months {March 19, 1946}
Tuesday ~ March 19, 1946
Trieste, Italy
Luigi Musina ~ 31-6-4 {17 KO's} ~ 182 lbs. ~ 6' 0" ~ {Age; 31 years, 4 months}
vs.
Primo Carnera ~ 88-12-0 {71 KO's} ~ 267 lbs. ~ 6' 6" ~ {Age; 39 years, 5 months}
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~ Luigi Musina Repeats Win Over Primo Carnera ~
Italian Light-Heavyweight Champion - Luigi Musina scored a repeat win over come-backing
Heavyweight Champion - Primo Carnera.
The physically-fit Musina, out-weighed by 85 lbs. used repeated left-jabs and left-hooks to
completely out-box the lumbering ex-Champion over the first-half of the bout.
With the bout well in hand, Musina started to unload heavy looping right-hands on the
plodding Giant's chin in Rounds 5 and 6, staggering Carnera in each of the Rounds.
But the 39 year-old Carnera showed courage, and managed to land a few heavy left-jabs
to the head of his smaller opponent in Rounds 7 and 8 to take the last 2-Rounds. But it
was not enough to overcome his early Rounds point loss to the better-boxing Musina.
This was Carnera's 2nd-straight loss to Luigi Musina, who had stopped Primo 4-Months earlier
on November 21, 1945.
The Associated Press scored the bout 5 Rounds {Musina}, 1 Round {Even} and 2 Rounds for
Carnera.
Primo Carnera >
"I think that I will give it one more try. I fought better tonight than I did in our previous bout.
Luigi is fast, and I just couldn't land the big punch that would have turned the bout in my favor."
Luigi Musina >
"Primo fought better tonight than he did in our last bout, but he's still very slow, and a sucker
for looping right-hands. If he wants to fight me again, I will oblige him."