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I feel like he gets bashed a lot because of his arrogance and constant comparison to Floyd. But if we pretend we never heard him talk, he's not all that bad a fighter. His only two losses came against great fighters in close fights. That being said, what do you think happens to him from this point on?
Porter is not great...yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
Maidana is always an issue for any fighter(unless your first name is devon)
Broner is a good fighter but there is s major blueprint to beat him..apply pressure.
He can market himself very well but he needs to try changing trainer to improve on his flaws.
Broner will capture this next belt and make alot of money fighting and beating the throwaways at 140.
Expect him to back at 147 early 2017.
Beaten by great fighters? That is funny, neither Porter or Maidens are great.
Put Broner in with Brooks, Thurman or Khan and he will beat by more greats.
Its not arrogance that has me bashing him. That's just icing. The fact that hes young, undisciplined and unwilling to get better has me bashing him. He cant keep the weight off in between fights, he has speed and athleticism and still he insists on hiding behind that silly shoulder and waiting for someone to giftwrap a counter opportunity rather than moving his F'n feet. He has enough speed athleticism and reflexes to be more creative and avoid more punches in the ring, but like his idol, tries to get away with doing the bare minimum.
*also the 2 losses dont include the people who think he lost to malignaggi.
He doesn't want to be bothered with basics and fundamentals, and overrates his own speed, power, athleticism, etc. The press is probably as much to blame, since they're quick to anoint the "next great one", and can easily inflate the ego of someone with the fragile psyche of Broner.
You are right, Broner is his own worst enemy! He deserves it! How can you defend a guy who can't keep his mouth closed and much that comes out of it is arrogant hogwash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
I had him losing to Ponce De Leon and Fernando Quintero as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
It's good it doesn't include the people that think he lost to Malignaggi because those people are dilusional. But a real good argument can be made that he lost to Ponce.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
As for him wasting his gifts, i agree entirely.
Talking obvious bullshat and not being heard is the same thing ;D I honestly never saw Broner good enough to get the "you just don't like him because he has a big mouth" pass. Its become its own punchline and came off empty act. You have to at least win one of your major showcase fights and back up the gimmick and hype..then you get the haters.
Devon held on for his life against maidana, almost as much as the big klitQuote:
Originally Posted by impPorter is not great...yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
Maidana is always an issue for any fighter(unless your first name is devon)
Broner is a good fighter but there is s major blueprint to beat him..apply pressure.
He can market himself very well but he needs to try changing trainer to improve on his flaws.
Should have been dq'd
So true.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
He is not even at the level of many of Mayweather's opponents. In fact you could make the case that he would be beaten by people not considered worthy to be in the ring with Floyd.
I see floyds setup a fight with broner vs theopane band camp vs tmt lol
I like Adrien Broner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
Look - He'll always be economical with his punches and inactivity will always be his downfall.
And the reason he'll never change that is because he has a subconscious fear of getting hit flush. It's like he is so concentrated on avoiding that one shot, that it affects his fluidity. You can see how awkwardly he reacts when those shots sneak in.
He tries too hard to live up to that Mayweather type defense, and it shadows the rest of his arsenal. He needs to fight with more confidence and embrace the rest of his capabilities as a fighter.
Playing the villain only works if you keep doleing out ass whoopings on the good guys, so people keep paying to see you lose. Once you get clearly beaten twice, there's not much more interest. Sure, he can have a Ricardo Mayorga/Zab Judah career, where he'll keep getting fights because he can sell a fight and it's always pleasing to see them get beat.
However, that can only get you so far and soon the promoters start using you as a gatekeeper for other rising fighters to build their name, in other words you'll get fed to the wolves for a pretty penny every fight.
His flashy attitude and flashiness is a mirror image of a lot of the music he listens to. So a lot of the hate that he gets on Saddo, I feel has a tinge of racism
He's an elite fighter and he has accomplished more as a professional fighter than 95% of fighters.
It's just that he's not better than all the other elite fighters. They babied him too much then put him against a lion like Maidana but having watched it back on YouTube. I really don't believe that was beat-down people say it was.
Golovkin loves The White Stripes and Wlad the RHCP, so a lot of the hate they get on Saddo's, I feel has a tinge of racism against rock bands.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
Broner has issues with pressure and until he can deal with that with some kind of controlled offense he will continue to loose.Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
The 'hate' as you call it is not really anything to do with Saddos, or him being black though. Check any boxing forum and I am pretty sure the antipathy will be quite universal. It's his attitude without the ability to back it up that makes him an object of ridicule. A lot of people have got a bit sick of Cotto's attitude towards the middleweight division but it has nothing to do with his nationality. There are enough high profile, high and under achieving black boxers for people to ridicule if it was just racism and that just doesn't generally happen here.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200I like Adrien Broner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
Look - He'll always be economical with his punches and inactivity will always be his downfall.
And the reason he'll never change that is because he has a subconscious fear of getting hit flush. It's like he is so concentrated on avoiding that one shot, that it affects his fluidity. You can see how awkwardly he reacts when those shots sneak in.
He tries too hard to live up to that Mayweather type defense, and it shadows the rest of his arsenal. He needs to fight with more confidence and embrace the rest of his capabilities as a fighter.
Playing the villain only works if you keep doleing out ass whoopings on the good guys, so people keep paying to see you lose. Once you get clearly beaten twice, there's not much more interest. Sure, he can have a Ricardo Mayorga/Zab Judah career, where he'll keep getting fights because he can sell a fight and it's always pleasing to see them get beat.
However, that can only get you so far and soon the promoters start using you as a gatekeeper for other rising fighters to build their name, in other words you'll get fed to the wolves for a pretty penny every fight.
His flashy attitude and flashiness is a mirror image of a lot of the music he listens to. So a lot of the hate that he gets on Saddo, I feel has a tinge of racism
He's an elite fighter and he has accomplished more as a professional fighter than 95% of fighters.
It's just that he's not better than all the other elite fighters. They babied him too much then put him against a lion like Maidana but having watched it back on YouTube. I really don't believe that was beat-down people say it was.
Broner may not match up well with Mayweather in the skill department..... but he more than makes up for it in the jerk department.
Typical gifted athlete who feels he can get by on athletic ability without putting in the work and going beyond what is expected of you.