Let's say a dead trainer were still alive in the present. Who would they train?
For example, say Eddie Futch were still alive. Who do you think would be a good fit for him?
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Let's say a dead trainer were still alive in the present. Who would they train?
For example, say Eddie Futch were still alive. Who do you think would be a good fit for him?
I'd put Eddie Futch on Porter to see if he can make him into a little frazier with speed. Make him into a smarter fighter with the same energy just more patience and timing.
Maybe also GGG and Kovalev and he has a really knack to teaching power punchers to deal with cuties and dancers. So fine tuning them and their ability to cut off the ring, set up their shots and work the body with that freakish power.
Possibly thurman- but im not sure. You kind of have to give him fighters that understand accept and put his instructions into practice or whats the point?
Interesting question and of course one bound to bring about loads of different viewpoints.
Of course Manny Steward would still be working with Wlad, Andy Lee, Jonathan Banks, et al. but if he wasn't then Deontay Wilder would certainly fit his style.
Angelo Dundee - Angie always had fighters in good shape, he let them figure their own style out and would help motivate them between rounds. I think he did his best work with Carmen Basilio, Ali, Ray Leonard, and George Foreman and he did not give them much advice, he just kept them motivated and focused. I think the best bets for him would be: GGG, Sergey Kovalev, Andre Ward, and Tim Bradley.
Eddie Futch
Cus D'Mato
Ray Arcel
Gil Clancy
Fritz Sdunek
Dick Sadler
I'll get back to the others in due time. Good thread
Gil Clancy hmm because he did a gr8 job with Emile Griffith I'd lean toward WW-MW fighters, maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I'm surprised he didn't have many star pupils as I've always enjoyed his commentating- he'd say something about what one of the fighter(s) should do--and then someone would actually do it!!
Emanuel Steward would work wonders on Amir Khan
Eddie Futch on Antony Joshua
Deontay Wilder would be dangerous with him. Height & Reach ? Man that was Manny's specialty. May I brag a bit? ;D Sure was good to talk with him at the IBHOF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I've got some photos of him I took but can't find the right driver to download it anywhere. It was on a flip phone. Hey- it was the latest & greatest....then....:-\
Eddie Futch - I think had he been around at the time when James Toney and Bernard Hopkins were in their primes he would have worked wonders with them but he could have really brought Sam Peter around into being a good well rounded heavyweight. Right now I think he'd do well with GGG, Kovalev, Andre Ward, Pete Quillen.
Cus D'Mato oh man, what he could have done with guys like David Tua, Ike Ibeabuchi, Sam Peter (though he'd need quicker hands), Shane Mosley, Ricky Hatton, Tavoris Cloud, Edison Miranda, and Amir Mansour. I think Alexander Povetkin, Ruslan Chagaev, Sultan Ibragimov, the short stocky fighters like that were his bread and butter.
Ray Arcel what an underrated trainer! How he could have guided Oscar De la Hoya or Pernell Whittaker. I could see Andre Ward really excelling under Arcel, also Canelo Alvarez. But due to his work with the little guys what about Guillermo Rigondieux or Terrence Crawford or Danny Garcia?
Gil Clancy He did such a wonderful job with Griffith but aside from that he would aid a fighter here for a fight and a fighter there and would just move around with the heavyweights. I think maybe Keith Thurman would be a good fit, maybe Amir Khan, maybe Tim Bradley.
Fritz Sdunek Fritz was the German Cus D'Mato, he got his fighters to get in a crouch and attack attack attack. Denis Boytsov was his last protégé so obviously he'd still be working with him if he was around, but again Povetkin would have been good with him as well.
Dick Sadler Most known for working with Sonny Liston and George Foreman, I think he was great at getting a fighter with a big punch to be intimidating. Oh if only he'd been around for Randall Bailey!!! Right now I'd have to say Kovalev, GGG, Wilder
Who would be better for Fury: Futch or Steward?
Probably Futch....Manny would have him think in the ring. Futch would have him fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
Tyson Fury isn't a thinker
Fury has a good inside game for a big man, just like Bowe did.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongProbably Futch....Manny would have him think in the ring. Futch would have him fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
Tyson Fury isn't a thinker
Angelo Dundee might have been good for Fury actually
Because he would keep Fury focused?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Paul Williams would have been a completely dominant welterweight/junior middleweight under Manny Steward.
Steward would get on his ass for fighting "shorter"
Mayweather/Williams @147 (w/Manny) circa 2007...Mayweather catches pure hell.
Because Tyson knows how to fight his own fight and he's comfortable in the ring so all he needs is training and small amounts of guidance to keep him on track and that would get the best out of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_AddictBecause he would keep Fury focused?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I would love to seen Futch work with Maidana or Oscar against Floyd because he was able to map out ways to beat All Time Greats in Ali, Holyfield and Jones. Cus D'amato with Wilder or Haye. Dundee with Ward or Oscar. Steward with Bob Foster or Paul Williams.
I think that any dead trainer who was alive today would be a zombie like in Dawn of the Dead. They would lurch and stumble about, seeking human brains to eat.
Therefore, the ideal trainee for any of them would be Tyson Fury ... he lurches and stumbles about all over the place already. He would also be completely safe from them all because he has no brains whatsoever.
In fact, it would be worse for Tyson if great dead trainers came back as some sort of crazed ape, as they would all try and attack him to peel his head to get at the single dried peanut rattling around in there.
I think the old trainers think today's fighters are pussies, drug injected and overpaid who are lucky to be alive.
I actually think Cus would've appreciated Floyd
Angelo Dundee: The best I’ve trained
Angelo Dundee: The best I've trained - Ring TV