Sad and happy about floyds retirement

This is if he actually stays retired like he says.

The good thing is that we get away from the mayweather sweepstakes and hopefully get the best fighting the best. It's weird how such a good fighter can hold a sport back (not money wise but good matches wise). There will be a gaping hole at welter that must be filled. I'm excited about that.

I'm sad because for me, mayweather is really the only fighter left from when I started watching boxing. I consistently starting watching it in the year 2001 and there are still fighters who are fighting that were once good (like Jones or Mosley), but mayweather has literally been a big name in boxing since I started watching. So its kind of an end of an era for me. From now on, I will see when people begin their careers and see them end it.

So I'm happy to see him go but kind of sad because of nostalgia at the same time.

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

This is if he actually stays retired like he says.

The good thing is that we get away from the mayweather sweepstakes and hopefully get the best fighting the best. It's weird how such a good fighter can hold a sport back (not money wise but good matches wise). There will be a gaping hole at welter that must be filled. I'm excited about that.

I'm sad because for me, mayweather is really the only fighter left from when I started watching boxing. I consistently starting watching it in the year 2001 and there are still fighters who are fighting that were once good (like Jones or Mosley), but mayweather has literally been a big name in boxing since I started watching. So its kind of an end of an era for me. From now on, I will see when people begin their careers and see them end it.

So I'm happy to see him go but kind of sad because of nostalgia at the same time.

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He will be back. Just needs a break n to drum up massive interest in a comeback after the pacquaio letdown n fan backlash.

I started watching boxing right around the same time and I feel you there.

Judah, Tzyu, Mitchell, Hatton, Mosely, Oscar, Forrest, mayorga, those were all exciting times at jr welter n welter.

Floyd Marmite Mayweather you love him or hate him, a defensive marvel not to everybody's
taste but a hell of a fighter, fighters like Floyd are few and far between he had the ablity to
make very good fighters look average,! he gave JMM a boxing master class that was pretty
special in my eyes, Yep you would have to say a great fighter 49-0 is a fine record.:)

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Floyd Marmite Mayweather you love him or hate him, a defensive marvel not to everybody's
taste but a hell of a fighter, fighters like Floyd are few and far between he had the ablity to
make very good fighters look average,! he gave JMM a boxing master class that was pretty
special in my eyes, Yep you would have to say a great fighter 49-0 is a fine record.:)

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Yep the way he dealt with one of our favorite and sharpest modern day fighters JMM was the real deal.

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

This is if he actually stays retired like he says.

The good thing is that we get away from the mayweather sweepstakes and hopefully get the best fighting the best. It's weird how such a good fighter can hold a sport back (not money wise but good matches wise). There will be a gaping hole at welter that must be filled. I'm excited about that.

I'm sad because for me, mayweather is really the only fighter left from when I started watching boxing. I consistently starting watching it in the year 2001 and there are still fighters who are fighting that were once good (like Jones or Mosley), but mayweather has literally been a big name in boxing since I started watching. So its kind of an end of an era for me. From now on, I will see when people begin their careers and see them end it.

So I'm happy to see him go but kind of sad because of nostalgia at the same time.

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He will be back. Just needs a break n to drum up massive interest in a comeback after the pacquaio letdown n fan backlash.

I started watching boxing right around the same time and I feel you there.

Judah, Tzyu, Mitchell, Hatton, Mosely, Oscar, Forrest, mayorga, those were all exciting times at jr welter n welter.

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Yeah fuck we are so lucky, what a great era to have seen and some live, also the Mexican featherweight wars, and Rjj at middle, nearly every weight had its odd moment and lit up for while.

I feel old; Lil Floyd came along just as I stopped going to shows and buying all the mags and restricted my boxing to TV and then Internet.

I would say though, he is the last of a generation of American superstars from day one, unlike say a Hopkins, who had to build a reputation over many years.

That said I sadly note the corpse of RJJ's career is still stinking up a few joints.

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

This is if he actually stays retired like he says.

The good thing is that we get away from the mayweather sweepstakes and hopefully get the best fighting the best. It's weird how such a good fighter can hold a sport back (not money wise but good matches wise). There will be a gaping hole at welter that must be filled. I'm excited about that.

I'm sad because for me, mayweather is really the only fighter left from when I started watching boxing. I consistently starting watching it in the year 2001 and there are still fighters who are fighting that were once good (like Jones or Mosley), but mayweather has literally been a big name in boxing since I started watching. So its kind of an end of an era for me. From now on, I will see when people begin their careers and see them end it.

So I'm happy to see him go but kind of sad because of nostalgia at the same time.

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He will be back. Just needs a break n to drum up massive interest in a comeback after the pacquaio letdown n fan backlash.

I started watching boxing right around the same time and I feel you there.

Judah, Tzyu, Mitchell, Hatton, Mosely, Oscar, Forrest, mayorga, those were all exciting times at jr welter n welter.

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I think I started watching at around the same time as you pair by the sounds of it, I'd also like to throw Morales and Barrera in the ever growing list of boxers from that era.

Gutted if Floyd does stay retired because I'm a big fan but as I said in the fight thread it will be better for boxing if he is out of it because it will open up the big fights between everyone else in that weight class

I am also a little happy and sad about Floyd retiring. Sad because he's my all time favourite boxer to watch, I had only seen clips of him up until the gatti fight and watched the gatti fight live on TV and have been hooked ever since. I'm also happy because he's almost 40 now and has been on the decline now for years although still a level above everyone else, age will eventually catch up to him if he keeps fighting on and don't want to see an old Floyd lose to someone who he would have destroyed in his prime.So glad he's retired and wouldn't mind seeing him 1 more time for that 50th win but that's it.

Happy because its as if a cork screw is removed from a bottled up division. Feels like the zoo keeper has left and the cage doors have opened. Well , we can hope at least. The welters are stacked! It has a feel of every man for himself now that the golden ticket has left. But in the back of our minds and as history has shown..the majority come back and with the command, fame and capital I think its a certainty Mayweather will do it again. Sad..not so much. The man is a craft master and defensive wiz regardless of if you like him or not. He's obviously had great influence to many young guys under his wing and a few with some serious promise. With Mayweather behind the scenes and off the stage its time for a new era. Be fun to watch.

Floyd Mayweather's legacy:

The worst cherry-picker in boxing history.

Fought people when they were past their prime (Hernandez, De La Hoya, Mosley, Pacquiao), coming off a loss (Judah), had been stopped within the past few years (Cotto, Pacquiao, Mitchell) coming up from smaller weight divisions (Hatton, Marquez, Pacquiao, Guerrero).

Avoided Tszyu, Williams, Margarito, Forrest, prime Pacquiao, prime Cotto, prime Mosley, and many others.

A man notorious for beating up women, finally went to jail for it.

Had shady referees (Cortez with Hatton & Ortiz, Bayless in several fights) and judges (Castillo I, Maidana I) to help when needed.

Used an ILLEGAL IV injection, a type that hides PED use. Rumored to have something shady going on with USADA, hiding past positive test results.

Disparaged former great boxers, claiming superiority over them.

Made racist comments against Asian people.

Demanded an opponent wear gloves with extra padding.

Always fought with home advantage.

Failed to stop opponents who had been stopped before (Cotto, Pacquiao, Berto, etc).

Put boxing fans to sleep for years with his monotonous, overly defensive, hold-and-run style.

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Floyd Mayweather's legacy:

The worst cherry-picker in boxing history.

Fought people when they were past their prime (Hernandez, De La Hoya, Mosley, Pacquiao), coming off a loss (Judah), had been stopped within the past few years (Cotto, Pacquiao, Mitchell) coming up from smaller weight divisions (Hatton, Marquez, Pacquiao, Guerrero).

Avoided Tszyu, Williams, Margarito, Forrest, prime Pacquiao, prime Cotto, prime Mosley, and many others.

A man notorious for beating up women, finally went to jail for it.

Had shady referees (Cortez with Hatton & Ortiz, Bayless in several fights) and judges (Castillo I, Maidana I) to help when needed.

Used an ILLEGAL IV injection, a type that hides PED use. Rumored to have something shady going on with USADA, hiding past positive test results.

Disparaged former great boxers, claiming superiority over them.

Made racist comments against Asian people.

Demanded an opponent wear gloves with extra padding.

Always fought with home advantage.

Failed to stop opponents who had been stopped before (Cotto, Pacquiao, Berto, etc).

Put boxing fans to sleep for years with his monotonous, overly defensive, hold-and-run style.

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lmao...TBE aka TBH the best holder.

I Hope he stays retired, cause money may fucking sucks, unless he become pretty boy floyd again, dont comeback.
PBF went for the kill.....money may hugs runs and collects big ass checks.

Now It appears he cant even connect his pillow punches anymore..........I fell asleep on the berto fight in round 7.

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Happy because its as if a cork screw is removed from a bottled up division. Feels like the zoo keeper has left and the cage doors have opened. Well , we can hope at least. The welters are stacked! It has a feel of every man for himself now that the golden ticket has left. But in the back of our minds and as history has shown..the majority come back and with the command, fame and capital I think its a certainty Mayweather will do it again. Sad..not so much. The man is a craft master and defensive wiz regardless of if you like him or not. He's obviously had great influence to many young guys under his wing and a few with some serious promise. With Mayweather behind the scenes and off the stage its time for a new era. Be fun to watch.

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I feel the same way but.......

Maybe a year from now they will set up the lark for him to come out of retirement to face the winner of Cotto/Alvarez for the middleweight title. Like I've said for years, just like Leonard. Difference being that Ray actually fought the real middleweight champion. Oh I know there is a contract for the upcoming winner to face that other guy but we both know what that means, diddly squat.
The WBC is famous for their situational ethics. Besides can you imagine the numbers?????? That other guy would probably get 5 mil to sit that one out unlike the 6 figures he settled for for Cotto/Alvarez.

There is simply no way that he goes out in a ceremony like that. He's got way to big a head. No way is that tie with Marciano good enough for that ego even if its downplayed. The whole thing reeked of disingenuous. The praise of Al Haymon and the entire gig suggests it was not the last. It was Reality tv. Look for something big in association with Haymon by about this time next year for May 5th of the following one.

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

This is if he actually stays retired like he says.

The good thing is that we get away from the mayweather sweepstakes and hopefully get the best fighting the best. It's weird how such a good fighter can hold a sport back (not money wise but good matches wise). There will be a gaping hole at welter that must be filled. I'm excited about that.

I'm sad because for me, mayweather is really the only fighter left from when I started watching boxing. I consistently starting watching it in the year 2001 and there are still fighters who are fighting that were once good (like Jones or Mosley), but mayweather has literally been a big name in boxing since I started watching. So its kind of an end of an era for me. From now on, I will see when people begin their careers and see them end it.

So I'm happy to see him go but kind of sad because of nostalgia at the same time.

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He will be back. Just needs a break n to drum up massive interest in a comeback after the pacquaio letdown n fan backlash.

I started watching boxing right around the same time and I feel you there.

Judah, Tzyu, Mitchell, Hatton, Mosely, Oscar, Forrest, mayorga, those were all exciting times at jr welter n welter.

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I think I started watching at around the same time as you pair by the sounds of it, I'd also like to throw Morales and Barrera in the ever growing list of boxers from that era.

Gutted if Floyd does stay retired because I'm a big fan but as I said in the fight thread it will be better for boxing if he is out of it because it will open up the big fights between everyone else in that weight class

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Yeah the Gatti and Ward wars . Humberto Gonzales /Michael Carbajal wars too, all spectacular.

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Floyd Mayweather's legacy:

The worst cherry-picker in boxing history.

Fought people when they were past their prime (Hernandez, De La Hoya, Mosley, Pacquiao), coming off a loss (Judah), had been stopped within the past few years (Cotto, Pacquiao, Mitchell) coming up from smaller weight divisions (Hatton, Marquez, Pacquiao, Guerrero).

Avoided Tszyu, Williams, Margarito, Forrest, prime Pacquiao, prime Cotto, prime Mosley, and many others.

A man notorious for beating up women, finally went to jail for it.

Had shady referees (Cortez with Hatton & Ortiz, Bayless in several fights) and judges (Castillo I, Maidana I) to help when needed.

Used an ILLEGAL IV injection, a type that hides PED use. Rumored to have something shady going on with USADA, hiding past positive test results.

Disparaged former great boxers, claiming superiority over them.

Made racist comments against Asian people.

Demanded an opponent wear gloves with extra padding.

Always fought with home advantage.

Failed to stop opponents who had been stopped before (Cotto, Pacquiao, Berto, etc).

Put boxing fans to sleep for years with his monotonous, overly defensive, hold-and-run style.

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I agree with some points. You gotta understand though, it was all an act. A persona. He knew what he was doing and it worked. I noticed in the Berto fight during the post fight interview, he sort of wanted to drop the act. That "Are you the best ever?" question, he got stalled and hesitated to turn his persona on. Personally, I'd put him up there. I just hate how it feels like he ducked some people.

I wouldn't say there is anybody that he didn't fight during his career that he could have that he wouldn't have been favored over.

Pretty Boy Floyd Money Mayweather TBE ATG P4P & PPV KING


Haters keep on hating cause Mayweather is laughing all the way to the bank with a brief detour to be inducted in the HOF.

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Happy because its as if a cork screw is removed from a bottled up division. Feels like the zoo keeper has left and the cage doors have opened. Well , we can hope at least. The welters are stacked! It has a feel of every man for himself now that the golden ticket has left. But in the back of our minds and as history has shown..the majority come back and with the command, fame and capital I think its a certainty Mayweather will do it again. Sad..not so much. The man is a craft master and defensive wiz regardless of if you like him or not. He's obviously had great influence to many young guys under his wing and a few with some serious promise. With Mayweather behind the scenes and off the stage its time for a new era. Be fun to watch.

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I feel the same way but.......

Maybe a year from now they will set up the lark for him to come out of retirement to face the winner of Cotto/Alvarez for the middleweight title. Like I've said for years, just like Leonard. Difference being that Ray actually fought the real middleweight champion. Oh I know there is a contract for the upcoming winner to face that other guy but we both know what that means, diddly squat.
The WBC is famous for their situational ethics. Besides can you imagine the numbers?????? That other guy would probably get 5 mil to sit that one out unlike the 6 figures he settled for for Cotto/Alvarez.

There is simply no way that he goes out in a ceremony like that. He's got way to big a head. No way is that tie with Marciano good enough for that ego even if its downplayed. The whole thing reeked of disingenuous. The praise of Al Haymon and the entire gig suggests it was not the last. It was Reality tv. Look for something big in association with Haymon by about this time next year for May 5th of the following one.

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The production of the "announcement" dwarfed the build up and actual last fight. He leaves entirely on his terms, contract fulfilled and a division that is in need of sorting out. I can see him trying to duplicate the post Hatton scenario. He didn't pick a Marquez on division standing, it was all about the P4P talk and market tag. Have always said it was a backdoor back to headlines. Oh and another where he refused to step on scale after weigh in. Within a year Alvarez can be right back off Cotto win (?) but do we really think he'll stay at middle? Mayweather will let the Thurman, Porter, Garcia, Ali, Brook, Khan, Spence, Bradley.. can easily see Crawford easing into welter also, sort out and he'll pick his spot for record breaker return 50th.

im happy

his fights are poo and hes a nob

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

This is if he actually stays retired like he says.

The good thing is that we get away from the mayweather sweepstakes and hopefully get the best fighting the best. It's weird how such a good fighter can hold a sport back (not money wise but good matches wise). There will be a gaping hole at welter that must be filled. I'm excited about that.

I'm sad because for me, mayweather is really the only fighter left from when I started watching boxing. I consistently starting watching it in the year 2001 and there are still fighters who are fighting that were once good (like Jones or Mosley), but mayweather has literally been a big name in boxing since I started watching. So its kind of an end of an era for me. From now on, I will see when people begin their careers and see them end it.

So I'm happy to see him go but kind of sad because of nostalgia at the same time.

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He will be back. Just needs a break n to drum up massive interest in a comeback after the pacquaio letdown n fan backlash.

I started watching boxing right around the same time and I feel you there.

Judah, Tzyu, Mitchell, Hatton, Mosely, Oscar, Forrest, mayorga, those were all exciting times at jr welter n welter.

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I'm guessing Mayweather will let someone else become champ, then he'll come out of retirement and challenge him. Another big payday will be at hand.

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im happy

his fights are poo and hes a nob

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Excellent and articulate break down as always. Respect.:bounce:

I am glad that Floyd is retired and I am past the nostalgic stage because Tyson was the end of my era so I feel old.

Floyd is an ATG boxer but not TBE. He is safety first boring as hell to watch and for the obscene money he gets paid he should do more to entertain. I feel he has cheated us out of the real big fights and fought in his comfort zone. For the amount of money he was paid he should have fought Martinex/GGG for a record middleweight title and Manny 2009.

Floyd will be back next year when people have forgotten how he has bored us to death and cheated us out of the big fights that should have happened.

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I am glad that Floyd is retired and I am past the nostalgic stage because Tyson was the end of my era so I feel old.

Floyd is an ATG boxer but not TBE. He is safety first boring as hell to watch and for the obscene money he gets paid he should do more to entertain. I feel he has cheated us out of the real big fights and fought in his comfort zone. For the amount of money he was paid he should have fought Martinex/GGG for a record middleweight title and Manny 2009.

Floyd will be back next year when people have forgotten how he has bored us to death and cheated us out of the big fights that should have happened.

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For the millionth time, he agreed to the fight, Manny agreed to the fight. Floyd did what he could do, the fight was on. Stop trying to rewrite what happened by saying it wrong over and over. What happened was Manny backed out. Understand? The fight was on and Manny backed out. Floyd gave us the fight, Manny didn't. They hid Manny for years acting like THE guy to get rich. They always knew he couldn't beat Mayweather. You can't beat Floyd with no jab. They knew that and that's why they were all smiles like "can you believe we pulled this farce off for so long, amazing the fans ignored the literally hundreds of times we were caught in lies perpetrating this rouse". I honestly feel bad for anyone that can't recognize Manny is predictable and doesn't have the tools and never had the tools to beat Floyd. It was exactly as Floyd always said it would be and that is why when it was first proposed Roach said "we can't be ready for Floyd by March, we could be ready for Clottey" and they fought Clottey. Just pay attention to how they react initially, not what those liars say after they have had time to think.

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I am glad that Floyd is retired and I am past the nostalgic stage because Tyson was the end of my era so I feel old.

Floyd is an ATG boxer but not TBE. He is safety first boring as hell to watch and for the obscene money he gets paid he should do more to entertain. I feel he has cheated us out of the real big fights and fought in his comfort zone. For the amount of money he was paid he should have fought Martinex/GGG for a record middleweight title and Manny 2009.

Floyd will be back next year when people have forgotten how he has bored us to death and cheated us out of the big fights that should have happened.

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For the millionth time, he agreed to the fight, Manny agreed to the fight. Floyd did what he could do, the fight was on. Stop trying to rewrite what happened by saying it wrong over and over. What happened was Manny backed out. Understand? The fight was on and Manny backed out. Floyd gave us the fight, Manny didn't. They hid Manny for years acting like THE guy to get rich. They always knew he couldn't beat Mayweather. You can't beat Floyd with no jab. They knew that and that's why they were all smiles like "can you believe we pulled this farce off for so long, amazing the fans ignored the literally hundreds of times we were caught in lies perpetrating this rouse". I honestly feel bad for anyone that can't recognize Manny is predictable and doesn't have the tools and never had the tools to beat Floyd. It was exactly as Floyd always said it would be and that is why when it was first proposed Roach said "we can't be ready for Floyd by March, we could be ready for Clottey" and they fought Clottey. Just pay attention to how they react initially, not what those liars say after they have had time to think.

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Pacquiao and his fans are a lot alike, very simple minded.

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I am glad that Floyd is retired and I am past the nostalgic stage because Tyson was the end of my era so I feel old.

Floyd is an ATG boxer but not TBE. He is safety first boring as hell to watch and for the obscene money he gets paid he should do more to entertain. I feel he has cheated us out of the real big fights and fought in his comfort zone. For the amount of money he was paid he should have fought Martinez/GGG for a record middleweight title and Manny 2009.

Floyd will be back next year when people have forgotten how he has bored us to death and cheated us out of the big fights that should have happened.

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You are right he never fought Martinez, but then nobody fought Martinez, not even Cotto when he was falling to pieces and had a little hole in the back of his head where you could see through his eye.

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I am glad that Floyd is retired and I am past the nostalgic stage because Tyson was the end of my era so I feel old.

Floyd is an ATG boxer but not TBE. He is safety first boring as hell to watch and for the obscene money he gets paid he should do more to entertain. I feel he has cheated us out of the real big fights and fought in his comfort zone. For the amount of money he was paid he should have fought Martinex/GGG for a record middleweight title and Manny 2009.

Floyd will be back next year when people have forgotten how he has bored us to death and cheated us out of the big fights that should have happened.

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For the millionth time, he agreed to the fight, Manny agreed to the fight. Floyd did what he could do, the fight was on. Stop trying to rewrite what happened by saying it wrong over and over. What happened was Manny backed out. Understand? The fight was on and Manny backed out. Floyd gave us the fight, Manny didn't. They hid Manny for years acting like THE guy to get rich. They always knew he couldn't beat Mayweather. You can't beat Floyd with no jab. They knew that and that's why they were all smiles like "can you believe we pulled this farce off for so long, amazing the fans ignored the literally hundreds of times we were caught in lies perpetrating this rouse". I honestly feel bad for anyone that can't recognize Manny is predictable and doesn't have the tools and never had the tools to beat Floyd. It was exactly as Floyd always said it would be and that is why when it was first proposed Roach said "we can't be ready for Floyd by March, we could be ready for Clottey" and they fought Clottey. Just pay attention to how they react initially, not what those liars say after they have had time to think.

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When you are the best ever you are open to scrutiny and not fighting the other top fighter of his generation at his peak is a massive hole in his legacy.

Arum and freddie admitted they walked away from the first fight as they didnt want pac to be tested 14 days before the fight.

Theres footage of this..it was never floyd running.

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Arum and freddie admitted they walked away from the first fight as they didnt want pac to be tested 14 days before the fight.

Theres footage of this..it was never floyd running.

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Whether he did or did not the fight never happened and that will count against him.

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Arum and freddie admitted they walked away from the first fight as they didnt want pac to be tested 14 days before the fight.

Theres footage of this..it was never floyd running.

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Whether he did or did not the fight never happened and that will count against him.

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Maybe for you and the other Pactards. But for anyone with a brain Floyd will go down at ATG TBE!!!

So many idiots in this thread.

Floyd May drew more money and recognition to the sport than anyone since the days of Ali.

Now that he's gone others will have to pick up his slack.

Happy Retirement Floyd, T.B.E.

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So many idiots in this thread.

Floyd May drew more money and recognition to the sport than anyone since the days of Ali.

Now that he's gone others will have to pick up his slack.

Happy Retirement Floyd, T.B.E.

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Retirement my ass, you are so gullible.

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

So many idiots in this thread.

Floyd May drew more money and recognition to the sport than anyone since the days of Ali.

Now that he's gone others will have to pick up his slack.

Happy Retirement Floyd, T.B.E.

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Retirement my ass, you are so gullible.

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Floyd can retire or he can come back in a month, it's his choice, he's the face of boxing, he's the T.B.E, 19 years undefeated which has never been done, he writes his own ticket.

Mayweather Jr will be back.

There's too much money to be generated from his fights & he will want to go for number 50, I'm certain of it.

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So many idiots in this thread.

Floyd May drew more money and recognition to the sport than anyone since the days of Ali.

Now that he's gone others will have to pick up his slack.

Happy Retirement Floyd, T.B.E.

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Retirement my ass, you are so gullible.

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Floyd can retire or he can come back in a month, it's his choice, he's the face of boxing, he's the T.B.E, 19 years undefeated which has never been done, he writes his own ticket.

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With dipshits like you buying the tickets he will always come back.

Did Ray Leonard get this much hate when he retired?

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the difference is floyds a nob and leonard is alright

its a pity the best fghter of our generation is such a nob

hes not just a nob hes a bit of a wanker too

which again is a pity

I won't miss Floyd as a fighter as I think for a good decade with only a few exceptions he has picked and chosen his way to an unbeaten record. He was really fantastic on the way up, but at 140 and up he has been somewhat deceptive with his weights, timing of opponents etc. A fantastic fighter, but it became a business in the end. I guess some would argue that is all it is ever about, but some fighters will fight anyone at any time. I don't think Floyd has had that about him for a very long time. Floyd was also happy to really stink a lot of his fights out and I think when someone has paid to see you perform, you have no right to waste a single second. Even in the Berto fight you saw a lot of holding, posing, grappling, running about. It almost felt that Floyd was taking the piss. Again, maybe that is what it is about. Do enough to win the rounds and don't take any risks, but 75 dollars is a lot of money to not be given anything. It was on TV for free here, but that's not the point. Even free, that is not going to attract new fans. Boxing deserves better than Floyd, so I won't miss him too much. Floyd is the Madonna of boxing. He makes a lot of money and has a lot of fans, but you would never want to buy an album.