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It's widely known that Mike Tyson was represented by his tax attorney.
Why didn't Don King provide a legitimate or reputable criminal defense attorney to represent him? At that time, Mike was a cash cow for DK. As intelligent and manipulative as Don King is, I would think that he would have done more to protect his investment.
Perhaps he was just as arrogant and overconfident about the trial as Tyson was. Any real attorney would have picked that case apart.
Could not agree more. What does a tax lawyer know about a rape case. Not only that but he put Tyson on the stand which was a big mistake.
I've heard so many rumours about evidence that was either not used or deemed inadmissible that I really don't know what to think. I suppose much of it depends on whether there is any truth to the rumours.
The suggestion that she went into the bathroom and removed a tampon shortly before the alleged rape took place would certainly be enough to cast doubt over the conviction if it that is actually true.
There's no doubting that King got it badly wrong using his tax lawyer though. Tyson was already up against it, what with his reputation and his accuser being a Sunday school teacher who seemed to be as pure as the driven snow. I always felt Mike was going down from the moment the case began.
I still don't think Tyson raped that girl. I saw a documentary about the events surrounding the court case a few years ago and it's just not convincing.
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Originally Posted by chinchekked
I know a guy that was at that pageant & he said Mike Tyson was flirting with his supposed rape victim & a couple more contestants. He said Mike was being Mike telling the girls what he'd like to do with them & they were all over him. She thought that if she went with Tyson, he was a judge don't forget , he would vote for her & she'd win. He said there was nothing wrong with her at the competition she was fine until she didn't win. She waited 72 hours to complain about supposedly being savagely raped. Apparantly she'd made similar allegations about a guy at her High school previously but she withdrew the charges
Tyson was set up
Hey, Kings power trips and taking all for granted caught up to him. Caught up to Mike as well. You make your bed..so on and so forth. The plus was Ricardo Lopez being 'discovered' and actually headlining a King card :-X
id love to think Tyson didnt do itQuote:
Originally Posted by chinchekked
but documentaries like that can be played out to be very convincing one way or the other
Tyson was awesome wasnt he?
The backstory makes determining what happened a tad more difficult and everyone will have their opinion either way... so i wont get into that, other that i have more reason to believe he didn't do it. If anything he's guilty of being an arrogant knucklehead at the time so that was his part in his own conviction.
As to the role of don king in this... From the financial/boxing aspect, Kings no stranger to using fighters and then hanging them out to dry. In this instance, you had the youngest heavyweight champ, ripping through people and then he starts going mental and hits a stumbling block. A string of incidents. Street fights, suicide attempts, horrific interviews, dismal marriages, loss of discipline, drug abuse, culminating in the loss to super underdog douglas...
Stewart and tillman victories were probably not the greatest comeback but put him in position to fight Evander. I think king saw tyson still on the self destructive past. He could have kept Tyson going and probably cashed him out right away and got a chunk of money right away. I think King chose to cut back on his investment in tyson and the money he was spending was probably breaking even with the money he was stealing from tyson at that point. So between that and the other people looking for a piece. Givens and her mother from the divorce, goons in the entourage, etc. King let/made sure tyson went to prison to dry out. People tend to cut contact and disassociate themselves with people in prison so kept other people from getting close enough to influence him. King makes sure hes in contact, sending tyson what he needs during the time where all the bad press and other stuff cools down. Hypes up tysons return and puts him on a diet of bums (peter "cocoon of terror" mcnobody, duster mathis jr., Bruce "i dunno, felt like he connected...sign my check" seldon, and the aging bruno again before the Holyfield fights.
In a nutshell, it was more profitable and easier to gain/maintain exclusive control over a post prison tyson in the longer term as you hype his former glory, then it was to pay through the nose to cash out on a tyson express that already beyond his control and was going to derail anyway in the short term. Besides there were plenty of other guys king could cash out in the short term and leave by the wayside while he had tyson simmering. Sometimes it pays to be a vampire and waste a lot of spilled blood while you drain a host completely and other times its better to be a leech, drink slower and keep the host alive to make more blood. King and arum got as big as they were by becoming masters at both (Arum was doing to pacquiao --I still believe that the bradley win was demonstration of power to pacquiao-- to show how bad things could really get if he didnt cooperate)
It was a mistake from Don, simple miscalculation from the egotistical money grabbing criminal.
Spot on. Not sure why everyone can't recognize thisQuote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
No way King deliberately sent Tyson to prison. He could not see into the future. You give King far too much credit.
Conspiracy theories abound
I still believe him innocent and that he was the one raped.
Here is another one.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
Maybe King knew Tyson was quilty and the tight so-and-so knew the money spent on an expensive lawyer would be expensive and wasteful.
King did not even pay for the lawyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedHere is another one.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
Maybe King knew Tyson was quilty and the tight so-and-so knew the money spent on an expensive lawyer would be expensive and wasteful.
I remember Tyson had to cash a bond that Cus put in place when Mike was a teenager. Tyson acknowledged that only Cus really cared about Mike's future wellbeing.
Doesn't change why King would not help Tyson.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterKing did not even pay for the lawyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedHere is another one.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
Maybe King knew Tyson was quilty and the tight so-and-so knew the money spent on an expensive lawyer would be expensive and wasteful.
I remember Tyson had to cash a bond that Cus put in place when Mike was a teenager. Tyson acknowledged that only Cus really cared about Mike's future wellbeing.
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Originally Posted by beenKOedDoesn't change why King would not help Tyson.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterKing did not even pay for the lawyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedHere is another one.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
Maybe King knew Tyson was quilty and the tight so-and-so knew the money spent on an expensive lawyer would be expensive and wasteful.
I remember Tyson had to cash a bond that Cus put in place when Mike was a teenager. Tyson acknowledged that only Cus really cared about Mike's future wellbeing.
King never helped him because he was a scum bag and would have pimped his own mother. One would think he could have supplied a Lawyer paid for by the interest alone on the money he scammed off Mike.
It amazes me that with everything that is known about King, fighters will still sign with the guy. I can't understand it!Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedDoesn't change why King would not help Tyson.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterKing did not even pay for the lawyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedHere is another one.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
Maybe King knew Tyson was quilty and the tight so-and-so knew the money spent on an expensive lawyer would be expensive and wasteful.
I remember Tyson had to cash a bond that Cus put in place when Mike was a teenager. Tyson acknowledged that only Cus really cared about Mike's future wellbeing.
King never helped him because he was a scum bag and would have pimped his own mother. One would think he could have supplied a Lawyer paid for by the interest alone on the money he scammed off Mike.
King had a monopoly on the titles, TV and top fighters. So you had to deal with him on his terms. If you resisted he would find your weakness and exploit it for all it is worth.
Indeed. Its actually quite amazing almost unbelievable that the man is not dead. Him and the Wbc were joined at the hip. I've always had mixed feelings about him cause with all the parasitical behaviour he made a lot of big fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
This is why it took Lennox Lewis years to get another title shot after losing to Oliver McCall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Big fights equal big money, something King understood as well as anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitIndeed. Its actually quite amazing almost unbelievable that the man is not dead. Him and the Wbc were joined at the hip. I've always had mixed feelings about him cause with all the parasitical behaviour he made a lot of big fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
Now there is a guy I'd love to sic/unleash Bill Paxtom on. Lol Would be a popular thread!