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Kathy Duva is rearranging Kovalev's schedule to make it happen. Saw in on ESPN app. Big fight Ward has been wanting. Hope it happens, but there is plenty of negotiating involved. Definitely worth the wait in my opinion.
Oh yeah, almost forgot, who wins?
I wanted Ward to get Golovkin first, before moving up and disposing of Kovalev.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
Andre Ward has cleared out his division and literally has no one of worth to fight in his weight class. He is an undefeated pro and former Gold medalist.
When is the last time he even lost a fight at any level ?
Andre Ward would kill Kovalaev and later on the "haters" will strip him of the credit he deserves anyway. Ward would make Kovalev look as effective as Canelo looked against Mayweather.
So excuse my ignorance, but "The Fall of 2016" is 12 months away , right? So what do they do for the next year? I can totally see Kovalev staying busy and mopping up any LHW's put in front of him in the meantime.
But what about Ward? Are we gonna have another year of inactivity? After all, like people have said, he's cleaned out the SMW's, so who's he gonna fight? He's fast turning into a fucking joke.
And before anyone starts labelling me a "Hater", I think Ward would win. I also think Ward would beat GGG. And I like listening to him as an analyst.
But for fucks sake let's hear about some fights now, not in 12 months!!!
Great fight if it happens, but I agree that saying in a year is just hoping as much as anything. Why not now? Ward has nothing planned, neither does Kovalev and really his last fight doesn't even count as activity. Stevenson won't fight him and really wouldn't have a prayer anyways imo, there is no better opponent for either and no better time than soon/next.
HBO is still negotiating a contract with ward which is why the fight isn't happening right now. Supposedly, if all goes well, Ward will fight at LHW on the undercard of canelo/cotto then fight another time next year in the spring then fight kovalev. If this fight does happen, it will be huge. Perhaps the top 2 p4p fighters.
He won't be fighting on the Canelo/Cotto undercard. If he fights in the spring, who does he fight and at what weight? He'll probably fight at LHW to get on point at the weight above. Surely then, he would either have to give up his SMW title or be stripped.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Then we have the possibility of the #1 p4p not even being a current World Champion .
Why can't ward get fights?!
What is going on with this guy.
He should have went with AL Haymon..
Yep not going with Haymon was a big mistake. Not sure what he was thinking? Proably money without thinking of the long term. I hope this fight is made. I think Ward will struggle with Kovalev in what will be a very close fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
I dont think he deserve the P4P number 1 spot at the moment. Beating Kovalev then yes but hes dominated a weak division. I think there are smaller guys that deserve to be ahead of him in the P4P rankings. Id also think Wlad has as much of a case to the number 1 spot as Ward does (which isnt much of a case)Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraHe won't be fighting on the Canelo/Cotto undercard. If he fights in the spring, who does he fight and at what weight? He'll probably fight at LHW to get on point at the weight above. Surely then, he would either have to give up his SMW title or be stripped.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Then we have the possibility of the #1 p4p not even being a current World Champion .
Ward would never "kill" Kovalev.
Ward is the new Mayweather who will outbox the top level opponents but never stop them unless they are weight drained.
Ward dominated a weak division? I think Ward beat some tough 168 pounders in Froch, Abraham, and Kessler. Ward is going to remain extremely difficult to beat and one of the most versatile and well rounded fighters ever. I don't understand why so many r turned off by him and his style....Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeI dont think he deserve the P4P number 1 spot at the moment. Beating Kovalev then yes but hes dominated a weak division. I think there are smaller guys that deserve to be ahead of him in the P4P rankings. Id also think Wlad has as much of a case to the number 1 spot as Ward does (which isnt much of a case)Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraHe won't be fighting on the Canelo/Cotto undercard. If he fights in the spring, who does he fight and at what weight? He'll probably fight at LHW to get on point at the weight above. Surely then, he would either have to give up his SMW title or be stripped.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Then we have the possibility of the #1 p4p not even being a current World Champion .
Read the article my friend, Google it. Kovalev will be fighting in January 2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
This is good news if they can get it done. Pony up HBO. Have a fight to get used to the weight and then take on the man. Really no other option after GGGs manager said "maybe in 2017". Maybe in 2014, maybe in 2015, maybe in 2017. Once they started skipping years in their maybes it was all too clear. If Ward stays inactive F him, if he fights Kovalev in the fall then we have a real show.
Ward has just been a disappointment because he has been so inactive. So much talent yet has greatly diminished what could have been an epic career which will probably end up being a really good one.
It do not give a hoot when they fight as long as they get together in the ring in 2016. I like both of these guys, it's a big fight, they are both prime, and they both look to be unbeatable depending who you are talking to.
I've waited longer for less exciting fights than I think this one is going to be! Ward is probably thinking this is his breakout fight so he might do a little extra. I have no idea what goes on in Kovalev's mind but I know he is a winner.
It's all good y'all, all good! Put on your happy faces!! :)
There is James DeGale at 168, who is coming off a big win against the only other top super middleweight that Ward hadn't beat, Andre Dirrell. If Ward was going to remain at 168, that would be the fight to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200I wanted Ward to get Golovkin first, before moving up and disposing of Kovalev.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
Andre Ward has cleared out his division and literally has no one of worth to fight in his weight class. He is an undefeated pro and former Gold medalist.
When is the last time he even lost a fight at any level ?
Andre Ward would kill Kovalaev and later on the "haters" will strip him of the credit he deserves anyway. Ward would make Kovalev look as effective as Canelo looked against Mayweather.
If Ward moves up to 175 and beats the man in the division, it's a huge statement. Nothing else to say.
What fights has Ward not got? Why would signing with Al Haymon have got him fights? With all the fighters Haymon has under his stable, why have there been so few great fights on PBC? What fights would Ward get if he signed with PBC? And how many years would we have to wait while he fought tune-ups before he faced another good challenge?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Agreed. I always thought about GGG that he shouldn't jump up right into Ward at 168. He should take a fight or two first to see how he handles the weight gain. Same with Ward. I heard Virgil Hunter say the same thing about Ward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I think Rock Nation Sports probably gave Ward more money and is more in line with the way Ward feels about himself, as in he's the next big thing in boxing. Can not wait for this fight, someone is going to be truly disappointed when the beautifully brutal sport of boxing rolls over him. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
this fight is happening next autumn?
its not even this autumn yet
If anyone is getting killed it probably isn't Kovalev. :-\
Ward is so inactive that I think Kovalev at this stage would put a serious hurting on Ward who will predictably try his mini Wlad/Billy goat routine but come up short. Kovalev is technically too good to let someone like Ward run the show.
It will be worth the wait, they both want this fight!Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
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Originally Posted by beenKOedIt will be worth the wait, they both want this fight!Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
anything could happen between now and then
theres no chance
A looonnngggggg way off.
Know what, I'm tired of Ward. Piss or get off the pot. For that matter have just one proper fight at Lt. Hvy..or more than one fight over 2 years..and then we can talk him fighting Kovalev. Its fantasy talk at this point. Kovalev is on a march and the only one he needs to be dealing with is Stevenson, who finally sacked up and called his name after last fight.
I agree that a Stevenson fight is still what is needed. Even though I think that Ward is the best fighter right now, he needs to get more active to prove the title of the best p4p.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
good stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
With such inactivity and not fighting anyone till he faces Krusher in 2016, would he really be up to it? He'll be 32 by then which isn't at all old but still. I hope we get to see him fight a couple of times before that.