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Foreman hitting the heavybag, how he did it.
I'm on the national team as a fighter we have access to informative trainers. Remember as a kid watching videos of foreman punching the heavybag whilst having no clue how it's done. Until a trainer put me through the sequence and believe me we were taught to shoe shine the bag this is something new for us.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/491525746804968346/
Imagine that your left foot is a hinge nailed firmly to the floor.
Your hips are the door. http://image.shutterstock.com/displa...-191500988.jpg
- push off the front foot turning the hips clockwise to 180 degrees.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/2...caf19017d5.gif
- push down and twist off the right foot.
- hips turning counterclockwise 180 degrees.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ApQlzehYyfo
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Re: Foreman hitting the heavybag, how he did it.
Foreman on the bag, was filmed before the Ali fight, messing about.
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Foreman on the bag, was filmed before the Ali fight, messing about.
Almost a half a century before I was born. See how he turned over his back heel/twist off this should eliminate any doubts as to weither boxers push off or twist off.when one reviews the tape it's obvious that the weight transferred to the back foot and then to the lead foot. My techniquical says what I think you've long said maybe he is on this site. But the foreman technique goes as follows press down on the left foot then push off using the power of the toe. Then twist off inorder throw the weight to the hind leg a full 180 degrees turn of the hips.
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Re: Foreman hitting the heavybag, how he did it.
Without the back foot, you cannot generate power of the front foot, simple mechanics.
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Without the back foot, you cannot generate power of the front foot, simple mechanics.
Is movement correct big George pressing down on the front foot then twisting off?
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Without the back foot, you cannot generate power of the front foot, simple mechanics.
Is movement correct big George pressing down on the front foot then twisting off?
Its the back foot enabling him to do it.
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Without the back foot, you cannot generate power of the front foot, simple mechanics.
Is movement correct big George pressing down on the front foot then twisting off?
Its the back foot enabling him to do it.
I understand what you're Saying by elevating the back heel the weight then is distributed to the front foot, had the Back heel been flat he wouldn't have been able to properly press into the ground of the front foot?
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Re: Foreman hitting the heavybag, how he did it.
Scrap the technical trainer says to focus pressure on the heel if pressure is focused on the soles of the back foot rooting is lost. Do you mind explaining what he meant? When the weight is over the right side of the body he tells me the right heel should be flat.
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Scrap the technical trainer says to focus pressure on the heel if pressure is focused on the soles of the back foot rooting is lost. Do you mind explaining what he meant? When the weight is over the right side of the body he tells me the right heel should be flat.
If the heel is slightly raised, no weight on it as such, your TFL is primed. Plus the reflex is primed, you have a 10th of a second to create force, athletic movement. where you need to be distance depth or direction. Whats changed things a lot was in the 80s, things changed. Leather soles went out, rubbers came in, hence foot mechanics altered.
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Scrap the technical trainer says to focus pressure on the heel if pressure is focused on the soles of the back foot rooting is lost. Do you mind explaining what he meant? When the weight is over the right side of the body he tells me the right heel should be flat.
If the heel is slightly raised, no weight on it as such, your TFL is primed. Plus the reflex is primed, you have a 10th of a second to create force, athletic movement. where you need to be distance depth or direction. Whats changed things a lot was in the 80s, things changed. Leather soles went out, rubbers came in, hence foot mechanics altered.
Foreman's right heel was planted before throwing the left hook!
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Re: Foreman hitting the heavybag, how he did it.
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red fox
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Scrap
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red fox
Scrap the technical trainer says to focus pressure on the heel if pressure is focused on the soles of the back foot rooting is lost. Do you mind explaining what he meant? When the weight is over the right side of the body he tells me the right heel should be flat.
If the heel is slightly raised, no weight on it as such, your TFL is primed. Plus the reflex is primed, you have a 10th of a second to create force, athletic movement. where you need to be distance depth or direction. Whats changed things a lot was in the 80s, things changed. Leather soles went out, rubbers came in, hence foot mechanics altered.
Foreman's right heel was planted before throwing the left hook!
Because the bag wasnt moving, also the technique was terrible.
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Re: Foreman hitting the heavybag, how he did it.
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red fox
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Scrap
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red fox
Scrap the technical trainer says to focus pressure on the heel if pressure is focused on the soles of the back foot rooting is lost. Do you mind explaining what he meant? When the weight is over the right side of the body he tells me the right heel should be flat.
If the heel is slightly raised, no weight on it as such, your TFL is primed. Plus the reflex is primed, you have a 10th of a second to create force, athletic movement. where you need to be distance depth or direction. Whats changed things a lot was in the 80s, things changed. Leather soles went out, rubbers came in, hence foot mechanics altered.
Foreman's right heel was planted before throwing the left hook!
Because the bag wasnt moving, also the technique was terrible.
As the reporter said there was a dent the size of a watermelon in the bag. What was wrong with the technique?
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Re: Foreman hitting the heavybag, how he did it.
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red fox
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Scrap
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red fox
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Scrap
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red fox
Scrap the technical trainer says to focus pressure on the heel if pressure is focused on the soles of the back foot rooting is lost. Do you mind explaining what he meant? When the weight is over the right side of the body he tells me the right heel should be flat.
If the heel is slightly raised, no weight on it as such, your TFL is primed. Plus the reflex is primed, you have a 10th of a second to create force, athletic movement. where you need to be distance depth or direction. Whats changed things a lot was in the 80s, things changed. Leather soles went out, rubbers came in, hence foot mechanics altered.
Foreman's right heel was planted before throwing the left hook!
Because the bag wasnt moving, also the technique was terrible.
As the reporter said there was a dent the size of a watermelon in the bag. What was wrong with the technique?
If you cant see it, theres no hope.
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red fox
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red fox
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Scrap
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red fox
Scrap the technical trainer says to focus pressure on the heel if pressure is focused on the soles of the back foot rooting is lost. Do you mind explaining what he meant? When the weight is over the right side of the body he tells me the right heel should be flat.
If the heel is slightly raised, no weight on it as such, your TFL is primed. Plus the reflex is primed, you have a 10th of a second to create force, athletic movement. where you need to be distance depth or direction. Whats changed things a lot was in the 80s, things changed. Leather soles went out, rubbers came in, hence foot mechanics altered.
Foreman's right heel was planted before throwing the left hook!
Because the bag wasnt moving, also the technique was terrible.
As the reporter said there was a dent the size of a watermelon in the bag. What was wrong with the technique?
If you cant see it, theres no hope.
According to you! Had big George elevated the right heel we wouldn't be having this discussion. Big George had a big left hook because his right heel was fastened to the floor allowing a stretch to occur. There isn't one national trainer who agrees with you. All say that balance is poor standing on the balls of the feet and where there's no balance there's no power.
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red fox
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Scrap
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red fox
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red fox
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Scrap
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red fox
Scrap the technical trainer says to focus pressure on the heel if pressure is focused on the soles of the back foot rooting is lost. Do you mind explaining what he meant? When the weight is over the right side of the body he tells me the right heel should be flat.
If the heel is slightly raised, no weight on it as such, your TFL is primed. Plus the reflex is primed, you have a 10th of a second to create force, athletic movement. where you need to be distance depth or direction. Whats changed things a lot was in the 80s, things changed. Leather soles went out, rubbers came in, hence foot mechanics altered.
Foreman's right heel was planted before throwing the left hook!
Because the bag wasnt moving, also the technique was terrible.
As the reporter said there was a dent the size of a watermelon in the bag. What was wrong with the technique?
If you cant see it, theres no hope.
According to you! Had big George elevated the right heel we wouldn't be having this discussion. Big George had a big left hook because his right heel was fastened to the floor allowing a stretch to occur. There isn't one national trainer who agrees with you. All say that balance is poor standing on the balls of the feet and where there's no balance there's no power.
So what are we trying to balance.
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red fox
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red fox
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red fox
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Scrap
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red fox
Scrap the technical trainer says to focus pressure on the heel if pressure is focused on the soles of the back foot rooting is lost. Do you mind explaining what he meant? When the weight is over the right side of the body he tells me the right heel should be flat.
If the heel is slightly raised, no weight on it as such, your TFL is primed. Plus the reflex is primed, you have a 10th of a second to create force, athletic movement. where you need to be distance depth or direction. Whats changed things a lot was in the 80s, things changed. Leather soles went out, rubbers came in, hence foot mechanics altered.
Foreman's right heel was planted before throwing the left hook!
Because the bag wasnt moving, also the technique was terrible.
As the reporter said there was a dent the size of a watermelon in the bag. What was wrong with the technique?
If you cant see it, theres no hope.
According to you! Had big George elevated the right heel we wouldn't be having this discussion. Big George had a big left hook because his right heel was fastened to the floor allowing a stretch to occur. There isn't one national trainer who agrees with you. All say that balance is poor standing on the balls of the feet and where there's no balance there's no power.
So what are we trying to balance.
Like the coach said we know we're right on track as long as we're on a different page as you. One of the trainers went to the 88 Olympics as a shot put athlete and when I told him your crazy ideas about power coming from the heels being elevated his response was either he's poking or smoking! Sink the heels into the ground and when you land make sure you're on the heel of the left foot. In no power sport does it finish on the balls of the feet nor does it start there. This is why you are not representing team GB in the 2016 Olympics because of your outlandish beliefs about aligning vertabraes and veins, propioception and passing through chakras and all that ying and yang rubbish.
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Scrap
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red fox
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red fox
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red fox
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Scrap
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red fox
Scrap the technical trainer says to focus pressure on the heel if pressure is focused on the soles of the back foot rooting is lost. Do you mind explaining what he meant? When the weight is over the right side of the body he tells me the right heel should be flat.
If the heel is slightly raised, no weight on it as such, your TFL is primed. Plus the reflex is primed, you have a 10th of a second to create force, athletic movement. where you need to be distance depth or direction. Whats changed things a lot was in the 80s, things changed. Leather soles went out, rubbers came in, hence foot mechanics altered.
Foreman's right heel was planted before throwing the left hook!
Because the bag wasnt moving, also the technique was terrible.
As the reporter said there was a dent the size of a watermelon in the bag. What was wrong with the technique?
If you cant see it, theres no hope.
According to you! Had big George elevated the right heel we wouldn't be having this discussion. Big George had a big left hook because his right heel was fastened to the floor allowing a stretch to occur. There isn't one national trainer who agrees with you. All say that balance is poor standing on the balls of the feet and where there's no balance there's no power.
So what are we trying to balance.
Like the coach said we know we're right on track as long as we're on a different page as you. One of the trainers went to the 88 Olympics as a shot put athlete and when I told him your crazy ideas about power coming from the heels being elevated his response was either he's poking or smoking! Sink the heels into the ground and when you land make sure you're on the heel of the left foot. In no power sport does it finish on the balls of the feet nor does it start there. This is why you are not representing team GB in the 2016 Olympics because of your outlandish beliefs about aligning vertabraes and veins, propioception and passing through chakras and all that ying and yang rubbish.
My advice to you, is try meditation, it will give you clarity of thought, settle down ;D.
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red fox
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red fox
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red fox
Scrap the technical trainer says to focus pressure on the heel if pressure is focused on the soles of the back foot rooting is lost. Do you mind explaining what he meant? When the weight is over the right side of the body he tells me the right heel should be flat.
If the heel is slightly raised, no weight on it as such, your TFL is primed. Plus the reflex is primed, you have a 10th of a second to create force, athletic movement. where you need to be distance depth or direction. Whats changed things a lot was in the 80s, things changed. Leather soles went out, rubbers came in, hence foot mechanics altered.
Foreman's right heel was planted before throwing the left hook!
Because the bag wasnt moving, also the technique was terrible.
As the reporter said there was a dent the size of a watermelon in the bag. What was wrong with the technique?
If you cant see it, theres no hope.
According to you! Had big George elevated the right heel we wouldn't be having this discussion. Big George had a big left hook because his right heel was fastened to the floor allowing a stretch to occur. There isn't one national trainer who agrees with you. All say that balance is poor standing on the balls of the feet and where there's no balance there's no power.
So what are we trying to balance.
Like the coach said we know we're right on track as long as we're on a different page as you. One of the trainers went to the 88 Olympics as a shot put athlete and when I told him your crazy ideas about power coming from the heels being elevated his response was either he's poking or smoking! Sink the heels into the ground and when you land make sure you're on the heel of the left foot. In no power sport does it finish on the balls of the feet nor does it start there. This is why you are not representing team GB in the 2016 Olympics because of your outlandish beliefs about aligning vertabraes and veins, propioception and passing through chakras and all that ying and yang rubbish.
My advice to you, is try meditation, it will give you clarity of thought, settle down ;D.
I'm done talking and being laughed by trainers and coaches after telling them your definition of kinetic linking. I'll tell what is kinetic linking its power coming off the back and having the weight go over the front leg. But this is only done by sinking the left heel into the ground that is what kinetic linking is, no twisting of the waist is required it'll come naturally. Plus there's a big difference from falling backwards than pushing off. Weights require that you push off.
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Scrap the technical trainer says to focus pressure on the heel if pressure is focused on the soles of the back foot rooting is lost. Do you mind explaining what he meant? When the weight is over the right side of the body he tells me the right heel should be flat.
If the heel is slightly raised, no weight on it as such, your TFL is primed. Plus the reflex is primed, you have a 10th of a second to create force, athletic movement. where you need to be distance depth or direction. Whats changed things a lot was in the 80s, things changed. Leather soles went out, rubbers came in, hence foot mechanics altered.[/QUOT
Foreman's right heel was planted before throwing the left hook!
Because the bag wasnt moving, also the technique was terrible.
As the reporter said there was a dent the size of a watermelon in the bag. What was wrong with the technique?
If you cant see it, theres no hope.
According to you! Had big George elevated the right heel we wouldn't be having this discussion. Big George had a big left hook because his right heel was fastened to the floor allowing a stretch to occur. There isn't one national trainer who agrees with you. All say that balance is poor standing on the balls of the feet and where there's no balance there's no power.
So what are we trying to balance.
Like the coach said we know we're right on track as long as we're on a different page as you. One of the trainers went to the 88 Olympics as a shot put athlete and when I told him your crazy ideas about power coming from the heels being elevated his response was either he's poking or smoking! Sink the heels into the ground and when you land make sure you're on the heel of the left foot. In no power sport does it finish on the balls of the feet nor does it start there. This is why you are not representing team GB in the 2016 Olympics because of your outlandish beliefs about aligning vertabraes and veins, propioception and passing through chakras and all that ying and yang rubbish.
My advice to you, is try meditation, it will give you clarity of thought, settle down ;D.
I'm done talking and being laughed by trainers and coaches after telling them your definition of kinetic linking. I'll tell what is kinetic linking its power coming off the back and having the weight go over the front leg. But this is only done by sinking the left heel into the ground that is what kinetic linking is, no twisting of the waist is required it'll come naturally. Plus there's a big difference from falling backwards than pushing off. Weights require that you push off.
stop and think about that.
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Scrap the technical trainer says to focus pressure on the heel if pressure is focused on the soles of the back foot rooting is lost. Do you mind explaining what he meant? When the weight is over the right side of the body he tells me the right heel should be flat.
If the heel is slightly raised, no weight on it as such, your TFL is primed. Plus the reflex is primed, you have a 10th of a second to create force, athletic movement. where you need to be distance depth or direction. Whats changed things a lot was in the 80s, things changed. Leather soles went out, rubbers came in, hence foot mechanics altered.[/QUOT
Foreman's right heel was planted before throwing the left hook!
Because the bag wasnt moving, also the technique was terrible.
As the reporter said there was a dent the size of a watermelon in the bag. What was wrong with the technique?
If you cant see it, theres no hope.
According to you! Had big George elevated the right heel we wouldn't be having this discussion. Big George had a big left hook because his right heel was fastened to the floor allowing a stretch to occur. There isn't one national trainer who agrees with you. All say that balance is poor standing on the balls of the feet and where there's no balance there's no power.
So what are we trying to balance.
Like the coach said we know we're right on track as long as we're on a different page as you. One of the trainers went to the 88 Olympics as a shot put athlete and when I told him your crazy ideas about power coming from the heels being elevated his response was either he's poking or smoking! Sink the heels into the ground and when you land make sure you're on the heel of the left foot. In no power sport does it finish on the balls of the feet nor does it start there. This is why you are not representing team GB in the 2016 Olympics because of your outlandish beliefs about aligning vertabraes and veins, propioception and passing through chakras and all that ying and yang rubbish.
My advice to you, is try meditation, it will give you clarity of thought, settle down ;D.
I'm done talking and being laughed by trainers and coaches after telling them your definition of kinetic linking. I'll tell what is kinetic linking its power coming off the back and having the weight go over the front leg. But this is only done by sinking the left heel into the ground that is what kinetic linking is, no twisting of the waist is required it'll come naturally. Plus there's a big difference from falling backwards than pushing off. Weights require that you push off.
stop and think about that.
I did along with some meditation and have come to the conclusion that your saying that foreman's feet are too wide a part I agree!
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That is why Ali could pull him in arm round his neck.
