The reason we have weight classes in boxing
It doesn't take a genius to understand that there are weight classes for one and only one reason. The bigger the man the more of an advantage he has over his opponent. Therefore some genius a long time ago figured out that a welterweight would not be in a fair fight with a middleweight. Just the same a middleweight would not be in a fair fight with a cruiser weight. Nor is a cruiser weight in a fair fight with a heavy weight. Now a heavyweight is also not in a fair fight if he is fighting a super heavyweight. Only someone with less than a quarter of a brain will fail to understand this
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Are you saying that we should have a super heavyweight division?
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Perhaps there should be a SHW Division, and a division between LHW & CW, but some of the lower divisions should be reduced.
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but what would be the upper limit of the Super heavyweight division? maybe we could have a Super massive heavyweight class as well
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Are you saying that we should have a super heavyweight division?
Yes. I've been for 10 years +
The klits are simply too big to put in there against 6' 1" and 210 pounds hw's
It is 2030 and a Super Heavweight division is created for those weighing over 238lbs:
I am Italian 220lbs meatball; I have blown out 25 bums and have now got the opportunity to fight some 40 year German former amateur Olympic champion for a world title. I am going to lose, but will get $100,000. Or I can put on 20lbs and get blown out by the 6'10" 260lbs Frankenstein who holds the Super Heavyweight title, but I will make $500,000...
A super Heavyweight division makes no difference, fighters will go where the money is. In 1979 the Cruiserweight division was created for 'small' Heavyweights. But that did not happen, instead the division became the home of the lazy Light Heavyweight. The same thing would happen if a division was created for say 200 to 220lbs fighters.
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I don't want to see it, I wish there was such thing as open weight contests as it is. It would have been fun to see for example: Manny Pacquiao vs Nikolai Valuev, in what would have actually been a highly competitive fight. Rigondeaux vs Chavez Jr, again a toss up I would have paid for. Roman Gonzales vs Brandon Rios today would be thrilling, the list goes on. Who needs any weight classes really.
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It doesn't take a genius to understand that there are weight classes for one and only one reason. The bigger the man the more of an advantage he has over his opponent. Therefore some genius a long time ago figured out that a welterweight would not be in a fair fight with a middleweight. Just the same a middleweight would not be in a fair fight with a cruiser weight. Nor is a cruiser weight in a fair fight with a heavy weight. Now a heavyweight is also not in a fair fight if he is fighting a super heavyweight. Only someone with less than a quarter of a brain will fail to understand this
I could go for another heavyweight division, if you promise not to start saying the only reason Wlad won so many fights is that he was sooooo much bigger. If Fury happens to win are you still going to piss and moan about needing another heavyweight division? I'm thinking you'll probably forget all about it. You think you have everyone fooled with all this fairness baloney, when all you want to do is get rid of Wlad.
Just wait until Ross hears about this F*CKERY you are brewing. If Fury is not allowed to fight those little guys, he really will be in trouble, you know how Ross feels about the Big Man. ;D :cool:
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LMAO - we should introduce weight classes by the pount. Middle 160, Junior Feather Minimum Super Middle 161 ...
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brocktonblockbust
It doesn't take a genius to understand that there are weight classes for one and only one reason. The bigger the man the more of an advantage he has over his opponent. Therefore some genius a long time ago figured out that a welterweight would not be in a fair fight with a middleweight. Just the same a middleweight would not be in a fair fight with a cruiser weight. Nor is a cruiser weight in a fair fight with a heavy weight. Now a heavyweight is also not in a fair fight if he is fighting a super heavyweight. Only someone with less than a quarter of a brain will fail to understand this
That is more often true if the combatants are equal in all the aspects of boxing. All things being equal, the bigger man beats the smaller one. And if the status quo decision makers were so concerned about size disparity they would have same day weigh ins period! They are in effect allowing the very thing they say they were trying to fix when they jumped from 8 to 17 weight classes to continue.
Now in fairness I doubt they envisioned people rehydrating 20 or more pounds but they knew damn well that 9 more divisions would provide copious amounts of sanctioning cash. In addition today there is a certain amount of parity just like other sports so weight has become the balance in most cases. You still get guys like Floyd, Manny and a handful of others that consistently beat bigger men and have their entire careers just like people like Gans, Langford, Greb and Robison that came before them and all of them fought in the 8 weight class world.
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http://i.imgur.com/KpCN5gE.jpg We don't need bigger heavyweights..we need better.
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I'd like to see the cruiserweight limit dropped back down to about 13.5 and then have another limit at about 15 before heavyweight.
Why?
Well, Kovalev can fight at cruiser at some point in the future but is still less likely to fight someone who will be a future heavyweight.
If he were to fight up to the 15st limit then the gap is bridged and the top four divisions are closer related.
It's not so much about the guys at the top. It works both ways.
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yes that gap would be bridged
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Heavyweight has to be the top division
you cant have super heavyweight champions because that will make all previous heavyweight champions not as good
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Brockton, you DO realize that Tyson Fury has said that Wladimir Klitschko is a "blown up cruiserweight"?
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Yeah do you realise he said that to make sure Klitschko knows that Tyson is naturally bigger than him.
Whether that is actual truth or not I do not know.
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well fury is a fuckwit then. 6 foot 7 250 pounds is a superheavyweight
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There ways to many division right now we really don't need more weight classes i mean look at the man posting Holyfeild not size its talent and right now there is lack of it. We had a sh and it was a joke class and fucking butterbean had the belt i mean shit dude we don't need that shit in boxing. Wald big but he has beat bigger guys with more ease if you ever watch his fights. I wish Usa would get another champ in there but Wilder i am not holding my breath on at all guy 100 years old has barley fought a living oppent.
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There have always been big guys. The difference now is that the division is so bad that size isn't the issue. The issue is that nobody is good. Look at haye. He wasn't big and won some rounds against wlad and he isn't even that good. Imagine someone his size who actually fought and was a really good fighter.
