Roberto Duran=The biggest Bitch Pussy ever!
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Roberto Duran=The biggest Bitch Pussy ever!
You see..... this is what I like about a small, familiar cyber family like Saddo's. After awhile we all get to know each other, and what our likes and dislikes are. We get know what to expect out of each other, and where all the buttons are.
Normally, I would go into a long discussion defending Duran from your short, but very damning statement. But from our discussions on Ali, I've seen that once you set your mind to hating on someone, no amount of discussion on God's green Earth is going to sway you otherwise.
If I were to defend Duran, I would begin by saying that one fight does not an illustrious career make. I would go on to detail all the dozens and dozens of fights where Duran showed his true warrior spirit, and dazzled us all with his ferocity and violence in the ring. I would point out the many elite opponents who faced Duran over his career... and describe some of the obstacles Duran had to overcome to get to where he ended up over his long career.
I would say a lot of things..... but I won't.... because I know it won't make an anthill's bit of difference as far as your opinion is concerned.
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Never a truer statement made on the sport. We are all Monday morning quarterbacks but indicting a guy like Duran's career or anyone else over one fight is simply unjustifiable. Great fighters quit for a myriad or reasons that we fence sitters who lay wait and in judgment fundamentally have NO understanding of at the level we are scrutinizing from our keyboards at work or in our living room. We all do it and again really have no comprehension of what they go through. Besides in Durans case he just beat the guy six months earlier. I'm not even sure why "quitting" or admitting you have had enough is such a pariah given the nature of the sport?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
You know, by golly, that's the same thing I was thinking about Vitali! Amazing isn't it! You and I are a lot alike, I didn't say anything either, because like you, I don't like to stir things up. You know something else besides us being alike and all, I like you too. Thanks for all the nice comments and support. Yes sir, life is amazing at times! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Strange, you didn't have an ounce of empathy for Vitali.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitNever a truer statement made on the sport. We are all Monday morning quarterbacks but indicting a guy like Duran's career or anyone else over one fight is simply unjustifiable. Great fighters quit for a myriad or reasons that we fence sitters who lay wait and in judgment fundamentally have NO understanding of at the level we are scrutinizing from our keyboards at work or in our living room. We all do it and again really have no comprehension of what they go through. Besides in Durans case he just beat the guy six months earlier. I'm not even sure why "quitting" or admitting you have had enough is such a pariah given the nature of the sport?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
"I'm not even sure why "quitting" or admitting you have had enough is such a pariah given the nature of the sport?"
Yeah, I agree with that and always have. Every fighter should be allowed to quit without facing a firing squad. Some, can't or will not quit, and I respect that. Some quit, when it seems they could fight on, and I respect that too.
Sometimes, I'm even temporarily frustrated when they quit but then I remember it's about them and not me.
Interesting:
So Ray made his first defense against a 12 year veteran (some call that over the hill/past prime) who was 3 inches shorter, reach 6 inches less- & he who would become the biggest pussy ever.
Interesting perspective.
Duran did quit, for whatever reason, and should face criticism but just as his knockout by Hearns, it is largely forgotten because Duran was god at lightweight, beat Moore and Barkley.
Yes he did quit, but I can think of some bigger vaginas.
Duran is the ultimate redemption story in boxing. He was considered the toughest, meanest, most macho fighter on the Planet; and after beating Leonard, he proved beyond doubt he was also the best for his time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Now the rematch was not going well, but it was still relatively close when he quit. But he quit; there could be no redemption.
Duran became the biggest boxing laughing stock, it was one thing to lose to Benetiz, but Laing...
He was brought in to be fodder for Cuevas, but won; but ultimately, so what? A last hurrah, a dead man's bounce...
But then came Moore and Hagler, and a grudging respect was earned, but still...
Further defeats followed, before his name got him a match with Barkley. A fun fight for a few rounds, before the Blade gets the job done; of course if he wins, redemption and a place in the list of the ten fighters who laced up gloves beckons; but come on, that is not happening, Boxing is not that good a story teller...
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Originally Posted by beenKOedStrange, you didn't have an ounce of empathy for Vitali.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitNever a truer statement made on the sport. We are all Monday morning quarterbacks but indicting a guy like Duran's career or anyone else over one fight is simply unjustifiable. Great fighters quit for a myriad or reasons that we fence sitters who lay wait and in judgment fundamentally have NO understanding of at the level we are scrutinizing from our keyboards at work or in our living room. We all do it and again really have no comprehension of what they go through. Besides in Durans case he just beat the guy six months earlier. I'm not even sure why "quitting" or admitting you have had enough is such a pariah given the nature of the sport?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
"I'm not even sure why "quitting" or admitting you have had enough is such a pariah given the nature of the sport?"
Yeah, I agree with that and always have. Every fighter should be allowed to quit without facing a firing squad. Some, can't or will not quit, and I respect that. Some quit, when it seems they could fight on, and I respect that too.
Sometimes, I'm even temporarily frustrated when they quit but then I remember it's about them and not me.
Where did I not show any empathy for Vtali? He quit or it certainly could be argued that he did and not once did I call him what you called Duran or indict his entire career because of it.
Wow generic thread alert.
Dejavu
Im getting dejavu
Anyone else getting dejavu?
I fell like ive seen this thread bef... Oh dejavu.
Just had dejavu.
Dejavu
Honestly, I was trolling for ruthless rocco. Check out his last post in the thread 'Master doesn't realize Chris Byrd did not make Vitali quit' where he posts 'Klitschko=Bitch Pussy'. He was too smart to take the bait or at a Halloween Party.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedStrange, you didn't have an ounce of empathy for Vitali.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitNever a truer statement made on the sport. We are all Monday morning quarterbacks but indicting a guy like Duran's career or anyone else over one fight is simply unjustifiable. Great fighters quit for a myriad or reasons that we fence sitters who lay wait and in judgment fundamentally have NO understanding of at the level we are scrutinizing from our keyboards at work or in our living room. We all do it and again really have no comprehension of what they go through. Besides in Durans case he just beat the guy six months earlier. I'm not even sure why "quitting" or admitting you have had enough is such a pariah given the nature of the sport?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
"I'm not even sure why "quitting" or admitting you have had enough is such a pariah given the nature of the sport?"
Yeah, I agree with that and always have. Every fighter should be allowed to quit without facing a firing squad. Some, can't or will not quit, and I respect that. Some quit, when it seems they could fight on, and I respect that too.
Sometimes, I'm even temporarily frustrated when they quit but then I remember it's about them and not me.
Where did I not show any empathy for Vtali? He quit or it certainly could be argued that he did and not once did I call him what you called Duran or indict his entire career because of it.
In that same thread you posted, 'It was also Vitali who asked for the towel.'
True but no empathy for Vitali.
Also, 'The case could be easily be be made that the official RTD result should be changed to a TKO.'
No empathy for Vitali, inflammatory, plus a cold day in hell before that RTD ever gets changed.
Then you went on to praise the courageous efforts of Chavez. 'Chavez lost a shoulder to the same injury and blew out a knee against Morales and he finished the fight even having his moments with one arm.'
No empathy for Vitali plus implying Vitali isn't the man he should be.
Not as bad as ortiz or audleyQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
Duran no mas strange he stood toe to toe with Hagler, and that will do for me.;)
Beating Barkley does it for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Probably the least talked about fight between two ATGs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
I was hoping this thread would be the documentary made by ESPN a few years back. Went to watch it the other day but it's gone from youtube.
I used to think Duran quitting was a big deal. I now think it's utterly ridiculous to judge a fighter by one moment in over a hundred fights. If I had to choose a favourite fighter of all time, at this stage of my life, after all the reading/watching, I would pick Duran. Legend.
sweaty bettyQuote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Duran would not be my favorite fighter, but I absolutely agree with everything else you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster