How will this match have done with both of them in their prime.
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How will this match have done with both of them in their prime.
Just as Benn lost to Eubanks, Nigel would have lost to Hagler. Marvin takes the bombs and smiles and then says now take some of mine.
Hagler stops Benn like he did Mugabi.
I recently watched Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank and their first fight and also the Nigel Benn Gerald McClellan fight and I don't know if Hagler would have been able to stop himQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Hagler was a much better boxer than Eubank or McClellan. The ref would have to save Benn somewhere around the tenth round.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustI recently watched Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank and their first fight and also the Nigel Benn Gerald McClellan fight and I don't know if Hagler would have been able to stop himQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Marvin eats Benn up like Paceman .
Ko 5
benn would KO him in 2
Sarcasm. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
I'd imagine Marvin gets 10 times the bottles and insults thrown at him than he remembers first time in town ;D:-X. Hagler just to sound and steady and Benn at middle was all the more available.
Marvelous
Benn was a high energy fighter that kept coming at you and his fists were always moving and if his opponent stayed still he would be in a hurt locker. Marvin had a stiff straight jab and used angles that most Philadelphia educated fighters would use. Marvin could fight inside or outside and his use of angles would make you miss. Eubank was awkward and gave Benn problems but Marvin was well schooled with angles and had an underrated defense. Marvin always controlled the other guy's pace. He was relentless but a thinker.
Benn was a crowd pleaser but erratic. I pick Marvin by unanimous decision.
Great post. Some big body shots from Marv in this one too (straight lefts)!
That is why I think he would have stopped a middleweight Benn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
Saw Nigel on the Sunday show and he was inspiring. Benn is a legend and miss his intensity and power. He would tear Eubanks Junior apart if he was around. :)
Nigel Benn v Eubanks Jr. now that is a fight I would've loved to watch. The Jr. version would've thought there were 3 Nigel Benn's in the ring! Benn would've obliterated him.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is why I think he would have stopped a middleweight Benn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
Saw Nigel on the Sunday show and he was inspiring. Benn is a legend and miss his intensity and power. He would tear Eubanks Junior apart if he was around. :)
I loved Nigel Benn, and have had the pleasure of meeting him a few times. He was one of the most aggressive fighters I've ever seen in a ring, big heart, great power and as behave as they come. Never in a bad fight. He would have a punchers chance against anyone, in my opinion.
Now here's the problem ..... Marvin was a genuine bona fide BEAST. He could do everything, he could box, he could punch, very underrated skills, one of the best chins of all time.
There are three deciding points in this fight for me:
- Benn did tend to run out of steam in the second half of a fight if he hadn't blasted his opponent out of there. We know Marvin could go at a hard pace for fifteen rounds, never mind twelve
- Marvin was a truly intimidating fighter. Many people were frightened by Benn before they even got in the ring. That would not be th case here and I would argue that Nigel might find himself being intimidated in this one. Once Benn gives Hagler any respect inside the ropes, the fight is over
- I can only see Nigel winning this fight by stoppage. He is not going to out point Hagler over 12, never mind 15. But Marvin had a granite chin and was never legitimately knocked down in his entire career, and he faced some guys who hit every bit as hard as Benn.
That is a fine summary of this matchup , nice one.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
I agree with Al, great breakdown however I don't think Hagler saw anyone as compact with the torque of Nigel or that really came as close on the power meter. Hearns could punch but he lost a good portion of the concussive pop he carried at 47 and 54. Marvins prime was most likely in the early 80's and he never faced a shadow of Benn in those years. Same goes for Benn I suppose and most of his notable scraps were 168 but one can include the two weight classes for the purpose of this debate as both could have fought in either and Marvin never had a 168 division. Marvin gets far to much credit imo for beating x welters that were longer in the tooth then he was. I think Nigels power could be a real game changer and this matchup would have made a great trilogy.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
Benn ended up a better super middle than middleweight because he had better head movement and was at his peak by the time he fought Eubanks 2 and G Man.
Marvin would have moved up after he cleared the division if there was a super middleweight division in his day.
Nigel Benn would have committed the fatal error of trying to knock Hagler out & he would have paid the price by getting stopped in about 8.
As powerful as Benn was, he would not have been able to budge Hagler & he did not have the stamina to outlast Hagler.
Benn did become a better boxer after his second defeat at the hands of Eubank, but he was still easy to outbox, as Malinga proved on two occasions (he was robbed the first time around) & Hagler could box very well, as well as punch pretty hard, so I don't can't see what Nigel had could have done to beat Marvin.
Benn beat Malinga the first time, it was close and Benn used body shots to turn the fight around.
Malinga is nothing like Hagler either as a fighter.
Remember Benn beat Haglers step brother Simms. :)
Mmh would struggle with Benn's head movement for 7 full rounds then.......DESTRUCTION