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Lee v Saunders 'head to head'
I'm just watching this, it was on BoxNation last night, the old dark room sitting backwards on chairs and trash talking to build the fight...wait a minute...there is no trash talking at all.
I'm looking forward to this fight but they are doing absolutely nothing to sell the tickets, I can't remember the last time I saw two fighters with this much respect for each other.
BJS - Andy Lee can knock me out with the right hook, I'm going to have to be careful of that punch
AL - BJS can box the ears off me for 12 rounds, I'm going to have to be careful of that
BJS - this is the toughest fight of my career, I have to be at my absolute best to win
AL - BJS is the toughest figth I've had, I can't underestimate him if I want to win
whilst its refreshing to see the mutual respect when you have the farcical press conferences from Fury its just well...a little boring and flat.
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I've seen it. Agreed, absolutely pointless. This fight has had about 10,000 press conferences with the same thing said over and over again - nothing.
Good fight though, even though the casual fan is not interested.
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Batman
I'm just watching this, it was on BoxNation last night, the old dark room sitting backwards on chairs and trash talking to build the fight...wait a minute...there is no trash talking at all.
I'm looking forward to this fight but they are doing absolutely nothing to sell the tickets, I can't remember the last time I saw two fighters with this much respect for each other.
BJS - Andy Lee can knock me out with the right hook, I'm going to have to be careful of that punch
AL - BJS can box the ears off me for 12 rounds, I'm going to have to be careful of that
BJS - this is the toughest fight of my career, I have to be at my absolute best to win
AL - BJS is the toughest figth I've had, I can't underestimate him if I want to win
whilst its refreshing to see the mutual respect when you have the farcical press conferences from Fury its just well...a little boring and flat.
Refreshing is the right word, almost makes me want to be a Brit! :cool:
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Dull build up, interesting fight but the problem is no one is anticipating an exciting fight.
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Fenster
I've seen it. Agreed, absolutely pointless. This fight has had about 10,000 press conferences with the same thing said over and over again - nothing.
Good fight though, even though the casual fan is not interested.
I think you are underestimating the interest in Lee in the US. The good things Steward had to say about Lee, plus the Quillin and Korobov fights have generated a lot of interest.
You know more about Saunders, for sure, so who are you picking? I'm interested! ;D
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It's a close fight, for boxing skills BJS wins, for punch power Lee wins, that is pretty much what they have said themselves.
There were questions about Billy Joes stamina but I think he has answered them now, he's done 12 rounds a fair few times and whilst he doesn't have a tremendous amount of power left come the 12th he i always still going.
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Batman
It's a close fight, for boxing skills BJS wins, for punch power Lee wins, that is pretty much what they have said themselves.
There were questions about Billy Joes stamina but I think he has answered them now, he's done 12 rounds a fair few times and whilst he doesn't have a tremendous amount of power left come the 12th he i always still going.
I think Saunders wins. Lee needs someone to trade with him.
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I thnk Saunders is mediocre and Lee is going to knock him out.
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Fenster
I've seen it. Agreed, absolutely pointless. This fight has had about 10,000 press conferences with the same thing said over and over again - nothing.
Good fight though, even though the casual fan is not interested.
I think you are underestimating the interest in Lee in the US. The good things Steward had to say about Lee, plus the Quillin and Korobov fights have generated a lot of interest.
You know more about Saunders, for sure, so who are you picking? I'm interested! ;D
I'm not having a pop at Lee, I like him. In the UK the fight has really struggled to sell. Which doesn't bother me in the slightest, i'll be watching it and look forward to it.
I'm not sure who wins. Billy Joe is a slick boxer and Lee is a box puncher that has proven himself against world-class opposition. I slightly favour Lee because of his power and experience at top level. However, Billy Joe has never been on the deck, if Lee is getting his head boxed off early, he might not catch up.
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Fenster thats kind of how I see it going, thats why I mentioned BJS problems with looking a little puffed out in later rounds in my earlier post, he showed against Eubank Jr that he can take a dig even when he is knackered and he will be digging as deep as possible for this fight.
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Forget personalities this is a good fight regardless. Lee had power and is exciting Billy is a quality world class boxer. It will be fun watching this fight.
We do not need boxers pretending to hate one another or build up a false rivalry.
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B class strap , contested by 2 second raters.
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Forget personalities this is a good fight regardless. Lee had power and is exciting Billy is a quality world class boxer. It will be fun watching this fight.
We do not need boxers pretending to hate one another or build up a false rivalry.
I agree, I said it is refreshing to see it, the fact is though that they looked bored themselves.
The promotors must be doing their nut trying to get them to sell tickets, I'm really looking forward to the fight, more so than AJ v White, a hell of a lot more in fact.
Take a look though AJ v White has been announced as being pay per view, BJS and Lee have nearly twice as many fights between then as AJ and Whyte, they have had a hell of a lot tougher fights and lets be honest for as good as AJ looks BJS and Lee have been in a hell of a lot more exciting fights than them.
The reason that one is a PPV is because Sky have fabricated a hate story between the two fighters and thats sold tickets, the reason that the other fight has been struggling to sell tickets is because there is no...I don't know...oomph behind the fight
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ross
Dull build up, interesting fight but the problem is no one is anticipating an exciting fight.
Yeah it's ever so much better when one fighter acts like a complete twat :rolleyes:
I like it when fighters respect each other, I like it when boxers hate each other, but I do not like the phony bullshit some boxers do just to try to hype a fight...the all sizzle no steak guys SUCK
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El Kabong
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ross
Dull build up, interesting fight but the problem is no one is anticipating an exciting fight.
Yeah it's ever so much better when one fighter acts like a complete twat :rolleyes:
I like it when fighters respect each other, I like it when boxers hate each other, but I do not like the phony bullshit some boxers do just to try to hype a fight...the all sizzle no steak guys SUCK
Thats why you will never be a boxing promoter.
If you want to sell a fight would you rather have Tyson Fury in press conferences or dull boring Wladimir Klitschko?
When is the last time one of Klitschkos fights have been on the front page of any mainstream papers?
Personalities sell. Pro boxing is a business, its like you have no idea about business or even boxing. Just look at the Lee and Saunders fight as an example. Its not selling amd how many threads are active about it here?
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ross
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El Kabong
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ross
Dull build up, interesting fight but the problem is no one is anticipating an exciting fight.
Yeah it's ever so much better when one fighter acts like a complete twat :rolleyes:
I like it when fighters respect each other, I like it when boxers hate each other, but I do not like the phony bullshit some boxers do just to try to hype a fight...the all sizzle no steak guys SUCK
Thats why you will never be a boxing promoter.
If you want to sell a fight would you rather have Tyson Fury in press conferences or dull boring Wladimir Klitschko?
When is the last time one of Klitschkos fights have been on the front page of any mainstream papers?
Personalities sell. Pro boxing is a business, its like you have no idea about business or even boxing. Just look at the Lee and Saunders fight as an example. Its not selling amd how many threads are active about it here?
And you, my furry friend will never be a bookmaker, but hey ho! ;D
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ross
Thats why you will never be a boxing promoter.
If you want to sell a fight would you rather have Tyson Fury in press conferences or dull boring Wladimir Klitschko?
When is the last time one of Klitschkos fights have been on the front page of any mainstream papers?
Personalities sell. Pro boxing is a business, its like you have no idea about business or even boxing. Just look at the Lee and Saunders fight as an example. Its not selling amd how many threads are active about it here?
Who's trying to be a promoter?
Wlad doesn't need help selling fights dude he fought Jean Marc Mormek in front of 50,000 people. He fought Alex Leapai in front of a large crowd too. Why would he need some jackass like Tyson Fury to sell a fight?
Go watch wrestling, that's what you want.....you want Wrestling Promos...why? Because you don't understand boxing, which is probably why you support a guy who lost to John McDermott everywhere but the cards.
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El Kabong
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ross
Thats why you will never be a boxing promoter.
If you want to sell a fight would you rather have Tyson Fury in press conferences or dull boring Wladimir Klitschko?
When is the last time one of Klitschkos fights have been on the front page of any mainstream papers?
Personalities sell. Pro boxing is a business, its like you have no idea about business or even boxing. Just look at the Lee and Saunders fight as an example. Its not selling amd how many threads are active about it here?
Who's trying to be a promoter?
Wlad doesn't need help selling fights dude he fought Jean Marc Mormek in front of 50,000 people. He fought Alex Leapai in front of a large crowd too. Why would he need some jackass like Tyson Fury to sell a fight?
Go watch wrestling, that's what you want.....you want Wrestling Promos...why? Because you don't understand boxing, which is probably why you support a guy who lost to John McDermott everywhere but the cards.
Have you ever boxed? Run your own business?
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ross
Have you ever boxed? Run your own business?
Why yes I have. And yes, yes I have.
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El Kabong
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ross
Have you ever boxed? Run your own business?
Why yes I have. And yes, yes I have.
Go on then Ross, the whole Forum is waiting for your riposte to see where you're going with this!😂😂😂
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I mean I understand Muhammad Ali chasing Sonny Liston down and harassing him for a fight because there was the idea that due to his ties to The Nation of Islam that Ali was being frozen out of a title shot. I understand Shannon Briggs trying to get a title shot by harassing Wladimir Klitschko, because Shannon is old, probably very low on money, and doesn't have the time or skill to EARN a title shot so he's trying to harass his way into one....it's SAD....pathetic.
What I don't understand is faux hostility and stupid gimmicks that cheapen the atmosphere of a big fight. These men are going to eventually punch each other in the face repeatedly.....why the Batman costume? What does that accomplish other than making people wonder if Tyson Fury is a retard?
Respect between fighters doesn't always make for boring fights....look at Gatti-Ward, they had great respect for each other and had some brilliant fights together.
So again, what does it accomplish? Asses in seats? The asses were already going to be in the seats man because like it or not people DO enjoy watching Wlad fight, he's been packing arenas as a main eventer for over a decade....Tyson Fury isn't adding anything by running his mouth.
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Primo Carnera
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El Kabong
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ross
Have you ever boxed? Run your own business?
Why yes I have. And yes, yes I have.
Go on then Ross, the whole Forum is waiting for your riposte to see where you're going with this!😂😂😂
I wanted to know if El Kabbage had anything to base his opinions on.
How many bouts did you have? What was your business?
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ross
I wanted to know if El Kabbage had anything to base his opinions on.
How many bouts did you have? What was your business?
What's all this then, you insult me and you want credentials too?
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It's not true to say Fury's antics offer nothing. Yes Wlad sells 50,000 tickets in Germany but that is not the only market. This fight is SKY PPV in Britain. There's a reason why K2 promotions sold the TV rights to Sky PPV in the UK, because Fury will bring a whole load of extra dough to them because of his antics. Likewise HBO have bought the fight for America (they don't buy every Wlad fight).
Fury being a big nutter, with a big mouth and turning up to press conferences in batman costumes is the main reason why Wlad is facing him. It's absolute gold for promoters and TV companies.
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El Kabong
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ross
I wanted to know if El Kabbage had anything to base his opinions on.
How many bouts did you have? What was your business?
What's all this then, you insult me and you want credentials too?
Well why lie?
Iv seen you mention on here before you have never boxed.
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Fenster, Fury is a mandatory....that's why Wlad is fighting him.
Ross, I've never had a professional bout...but I've boxed many a professional
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El Kabong
Fenster, Fury is a mandatory....that's why Wlad is fighting him.
Ross, I've never had a professional bout...but I've boxed many a professional
How many amateur bouts have you had?
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ross
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El Kabong
Fenster, Fury is a mandatory....that's why Wlad is fighting him.
Ross, I've never had a professional bout...but I've boxed many a professional
How many amateur bouts have you had?
I was a sparring partner for several professionals
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El Kabong
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ross
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El Kabong
Fenster, Fury is a mandatory....that's why Wlad is fighting him.
Ross, I've never had a professional bout...but I've boxed many a professional
How many amateur bouts have you had?
I was a sparring partner for several professionals
Ok.....
Someone whos never had a bout in there life would be amazingly beneficial as a sparring partner for a professional;D
If you have ever stepped foot in a ring (I doubt it by the way you try to pass off not having any bouts ever in your entire life as you being a boxer;D) with any level of boxer you werent their sparring partner, they were letting you get some time in the ring.
Now someone whos never boxed may eat that crap up:rolleyes:
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ross
Ok.....
Someone whos never had a bout in there life would be amazingly beneficial as a sparring partner for a professional;D
If you have ever stepped foot in a ring (I doubt it by the way you try to pass off not having any bouts ever in your entire life as you being a boxer;D) with any level of boxer you werent their sparring partner, they were letting you get some time in the ring.
Now someone whos never boxed may eat that crap up:rolleyes:
Don't know where you're from but sparring partners are hard to come by in my neck of the woods especially heavyweights. There being no amateur bouts for me to have although I was licensed which was a waste of time. So I just had my bouts in the gym with the pros...no world beaters obviously but decent enough boxers and I am not saying I was better than them at all.
Your question was "have you boxed" my answer was "I have". Now you don't want to count what I did as boxing but I know what I did, I know how the sparring sessions went and I know who I sparred.
But you know best....you asked the question, why?
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El Kabong
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ross
Ok.....
Someone whos never had a bout in there life would be amazingly beneficial as a sparring partner for a professional;D
If you have ever stepped foot in a ring (I doubt it by the way you try to pass off not having any bouts ever in your entire life as you being a boxer;D) with any level of boxer you werent their sparring partner, they were letting you get some time in the ring.
Now someone whos never boxed may eat that crap up:rolleyes:
Don't know where you're from but sparring partners are hard to come by in my neck of the woods especially heavyweights. There being no amateur bouts for me to have although I was licensed which was a waste of time. So I just had my bouts in the gym with the pros...no world beaters obviously but decent enough boxers and I am not saying I was better than them at all.
Your question was "have you boxed" my answer was "I have". Now you don't want to count what I did as boxing but I know what I did, I know how the sparring sessions went and I know who I sparred.
But you know best....you asked the question, why?
Your saddoboxings very own underground Kimbo Kabong!
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Youv done some training youv never boxed. Ask your self how many boxing matches you won or lost, if you cant answer any then you havent boxed:rolleyes:
Primo, thats where I was going;D
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ross
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El Kabong
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ross
Ok.....
Someone whos never had a bout in there life would be amazingly beneficial as a sparring partner for a professional;D
If you have ever stepped foot in a ring (I doubt it by the way you try to pass off not having any bouts ever in your entire life as you being a boxer;D) with any level of boxer you werent their sparring partner, they were letting you get some time in the ring.
Now someone whos never boxed may eat that crap up:rolleyes:
Don't know where you're from but sparring partners are hard to come by in my neck of the woods especially heavyweights. There being no amateur bouts for me to have although I was licensed which was a waste of time. So I just had my bouts in the gym with the pros...no world beaters obviously but decent enough boxers and I am not saying I was better than them at all.
Your question was "have you boxed" my answer was "I have". Now you don't want to count what I did as boxing but I know what I did, I know how the sparring sessions went and I know who I sparred.
But you know best....you asked the question, why?
Your saddoboxings very own underground Kimbo Kabong!
:vd:
Youv done some training youv never boxed. Ask your self how many boxing matches you won or lost, if you cant answer any then you havent boxed:rolleyes:
Primo, thats where I was going;D
Ok so "I've done training" if that is how you want to put it. You asked the question initially because?
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Do you want to be a pro boxer when you grow up into an adult ?
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ross
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El Kabong
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ross
Ok.....
Someone whos never had a bout in there life would be amazingly beneficial as a sparring partner for a professional;D
If you have ever stepped foot in a ring (I doubt it by the way you try to pass off not having any bouts ever in your entire life as you being a boxer;D) with any level of boxer you werent their sparring partner, they were letting you get some time in the ring.
Now someone whos never boxed may eat that crap up:rolleyes:
Don't know where you're from but sparring partners are hard to come by in my neck of the woods especially heavyweights. There being no amateur bouts for me to have although I was licensed which was a waste of time. So I just had my bouts in the gym with the pros...no world beaters obviously but decent enough boxers and I am not saying I was better than them at all.
Your question was "have you boxed" my answer was "I have". Now you don't want to count what I did as boxing but I know what I did, I know how the sparring sessions went and I know who I sparred.
But you know best....you asked the question, why?
Your saddoboxings very own underground Kimbo Kabong!
:vd:
Youv done some training youv never boxed. Ask your self how many boxing matches you won or lost, if you cant answer any then you havent boxed:rolleyes:
Primo, thats where I was going;D
Thanks Ross, so what you're saying is that because El Kabong doesn't have as vast an amount experience in the ring as you , his opinion can be discounted . and the business thing :confused:
I kind of knew this was where your schoolboy mindset was taking you , but just wanted clarification.
So, if you were a shit boxer, lacked bottle and thought "fuck it , I'll become a boxing Judge and spoil everybody's fun!" then you couldn't hack that because people criticised your lack of knowledge and you shit yourself and sacked that off, All this somehow makes you a better judge than El Kabong?
And as for "running a business", does recruiting one or two labourers here and there make you a better font of knowledge for Promoting Boxing than El Kabong?
For the record, I've never boxed and I have and do own Businesses for what it's worth. ;D
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Primo Carnera
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ross
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El Kabong
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ross
Ok.....
Someone whos never had a bout in there life would be amazingly beneficial as a sparring partner for a professional;D
If you have ever stepped foot in a ring (I doubt it by the way you try to pass off not having any bouts ever in your entire life as you being a boxer;D) with any level of boxer you werent their sparring partner, they were letting you get some time in the ring.
Now someone whos never boxed may eat that crap up:rolleyes:
Don't know where you're from but sparring partners are hard to come by in my neck of the woods especially heavyweights. There being no amateur bouts for me to have although I was licensed which was a waste of time. So I just had my bouts in the gym with the pros...no world beaters obviously but decent enough boxers and I am not saying I was better than them at all.
Your question was "have you boxed" my answer was "I have". Now you don't want to count what I did as boxing but I know what I did, I know how the sparring sessions went and I know who I sparred.
But you know best....you asked the question, why?
Your saddoboxings very own underground Kimbo Kabong!
:vd:
Youv done some training youv never boxed. Ask your self how many boxing matches you won or lost, if you cant answer any then you havent boxed:rolleyes:
Primo, thats where I was going;D
Thanks Ross, so what you're saying is that because El Kabong doesn't have as vast an amount experience in the ring as you , his opinion can be discounted . and the business thing :confused:
I kind of knew this was where your schoolboy mindset was taking you , but just wanted clarification.
So, if you were a shit boxer, lacked bottle and thought "fuck it , I'll become a boxing Judge and spoil everybody's fun!" then you couldn't hack that because people criticised your lack of knowledge and you shit yourself and sacked that off, All this somehow makes you a better judge than El Kabong?
And as for "running a business", does recruiting one or two labourers here and there make you a better font of knowledge for Promoting Boxing than El Kabong?
For the record, I've never boxed and I have and do own Businesses for what it's worth. ;D
None of you three above have any right to criticise any boxer when the sport you so clearly rabidly love you have never had the balls to actually go and compete in.
Just run that through your tiny minds when you spout shit about Tyson Fury. Kind of a reverse inspiration. "Tysons useless, hold on what would I have done in this situation, oh hold on I dont know because iv never been brave enough to compete."
El Kabong doesnt have any experience of boxing because hes never competitively boxed. He will never know what its like to train and go to sleep everynight thinking about his bout drawing nearer and the nerves of walking to the ring amongst a crowd that he could let himself down in front of then facing his opponent waiting for the bell to sound. Or how it feels to have someone launch themselves at him mercilessly throwing everything they have at him because they dont want to lose and being mentally strong enough to withstand it and fight back and fight back well enough to try and win gasping for breath.
The only reason you are piping up is because you have also never boxed. Dont feel ashamed about it, just stop talking so much shit about people who are clearly braver and more ambitious in boxing than you. Its like the saying "a wolf wont lose sleep over the opinion of sheep" but it does grate reading this nonesense from inexperienced "posters" (cant call you boxers) every day.
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So because I've just "done training" I can't say peep about Tyson Fury wearing a batman costume?
Ok ross, whatever you say
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God I hate that argument:vd: Ross, if you went to a restaurant and ordered a meal, but it arrived burnt and covered in salt, would you not complain as you've never trained as a chef? Plenty of people on here alone have never boxed and know more about the sport than you do, and it's not just because you're generally a thicko.
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El Kabong
Fenster, Fury is a mandatory....that's why Wlad is fighting him.
I know he's the mandatory but that doesn't mean Wlad was forced to fight him, he could have vacated the belt. Wlad obviously believes that he can beat him and it makes commercial sense.
When have you seen Wlad doing multi country media tours for any tom dick and harry? Once again, SKY PPV and HBO is not common for Wlad (certainly not PPV). To say Fury brings nothing to the table is quite frankly rubbish. He's one of the most famous heavyweights in the world precisely for being a giant nutter.
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So because I've just "done training" I can't say peep about Tyson Fury wearing a batman costume?
Ok ross, whatever you say
Thats not all you say though is it.
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p4pking
God I hate that argument:vd: Ross, if you went to a restaurant and ordered a meal, but it arrived burnt and covered in salt, would you not complain as you've never trained as a chef? Plenty of people on here alone have never boxed and know more about the sport than you do, and it's not just because you're generally a thicko.
I bet.
Too much salt is too much salt. Burnt is burnt.
You cant criticise Tyson fury for being a shit boxer when he clearly isn't and when it comes from someone whos never had the balls to even box themselves its an insult, although a meaningless one.
Its funny how the opinion from the none boxers on here differs massively to actual world champions who believe Fury can win. Iv seen Calzaghe, Froch, Robin Reid, Deontay Wilder off the top of my head saying Fury can win. None have come out with the tripe posted in here that hes too fat and will get wiped out in a round. Experience here is the key in having an informed opinion, or rather a not so ridiculously exagerated pile of rubbish.
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Primo Carnera
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ross
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El Kabong
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ross
Ok.....
Someone whos never had a bout in there life would be amazingly beneficial as a sparring partner for a professional;D
If you have ever stepped foot in a ring (I doubt it by the way you try to pass off not having any bouts ever in your entire life as you being a boxer;D) with any level of boxer you werent their sparring partner, they were letting you get some time in the ring.
Now someone whos never boxed may eat that crap up:rolleyes:
Don't know where you're from but sparring partners are hard to come by in my neck of the woods especially heavyweights. There being no amateur bouts for me to have although I was licensed which was a waste of time. So I just had my bouts in the gym with the pros...no world beaters obviously but decent enough boxers and I am not saying I was better than them at all.
Your question was "have you boxed" my answer was "I have". Now you don't want to count what I did as boxing but I know what I did, I know how the sparring sessions went and I know who I sparred.
But you know best....you asked the question, why?
Your saddoboxings very own underground Kimbo Kabong!
:vd:
Youv done some training youv never boxed. Ask your self how many boxing matches you won or lost, if you cant answer any then you havent boxed:rolleyes:
Primo, thats where I was going;D
Thanks Ross, so what you're saying is that because El Kabong doesn't have as vast an amount experience in the ring as you , his opinion can be discounted . and the business thing :confused:
I kind of knew this was where your schoolboy mindset was taking you , but just wanted clarification.
So, if you were a shit boxer, lacked bottle and thought "fuck it , I'll become a boxing Judge and spoil everybody's fun!" then you couldn't hack that because people criticised your lack of knowledge and you shit yourself and sacked that off, All this somehow makes you a better judge than El Kabong?
And as for "running a business", does recruiting one or two labourers here and there make you a better font of knowledge for Promoting Boxing than El Kabong?
For the record, I've never boxed and I have and do own Businesses for what it's worth. ;D
None of you three above have any right to criticise any boxer when the sport you so clearly rabidly love you have never had the balls to actually go and compete in.
Just run that through your tiny minds when you spout shit about Tyson Fury. Kind of a reverse inspiration. "Tysons useless, hold on what would I have done in this situation, oh hold on I dont know because iv never been brave enough to compete."
El Kabong doesnt have any experience of boxing because hes never competitively boxed. He will never know what its like to train and go to sleep everynight thinking about his bout drawing nearer and the nerves of walking to the ring amongst a crowd that he could let himself down in front of then facing his opponent waiting for the bell to sound. Or how it feels to have someone launch themselves at him mercilessly throwing everything they have at him because they dont want to lose and being mentally strong enough to withstand it and fight back and fight back well enough to try and win gasping for breath.
The only reason you are piping up is because you have also never boxed. Dont feel ashamed about it, just stop talking so much shit about people who are clearly braver and more ambitious in boxing than you. Its like the saying "a wolf wont lose sleep over the opinion of sheep" but it does grate reading this nonesense from inexperienced "posters" (cant call you boxers) every day.
But this is it Ross, I for one, and many others aren't particularly criticising or disrespecting Fury, it's YOU that most people are ridiculing , and I think that we have every right to because you have consistently proved that you are pretty fuckin Stupid!
Jose Mourinho never played football, but that doesn't stop him having an opinion on Football at the top level .
I don't feel ashamed, I am in admiration of any body who has stepped in the ring. but answer me one question?
because you've "been in the ring" (btw you never said to what degree of success you had, which probably means you were shite!), does this give you the right to talk as disrespectfully as you do about :
a. a World Champion (David Haye) who are you to say he shit himself?
b. One of the best 2 HW boxers on the planet over the last 10 years (the other being his Brother)
I find this a bit hypocritical because you've never, to my knowledge competed at World Class level, yet you can be so personally disparaging about them.
we'll have a little experiment , you , this great knowledgeable "ex-boxer" think Fury will win easily, whereas I , this non-boxing nobody thinks Wlad will win, not necessarily easily, but win nonetheless.
when the fight is all done , we will see who's opinion is closest and just fuckin make sure you stay on the forum for the 48 hours after the fight before your ban starts to take all the shit deservedly coming your way!
you probably won't reply to this, because every time I expose and embarrass you as the complete tool you are, you skulk off onto another thread and spout the same old shite until you get caught up with there. if you dispute this, have a look back my pedigree chum! ;D
