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They are hell bent on bringing in 26,000 Syrians by year end. What % of those 26 thousand will be hell-bent on taking out Canada remains to be seen. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA
If only 1/10th of 1% are ISIS sleepers, we're talking about 26 jihadists.
26 jihadists are a SHITLOAD of people in a country with only 14 million people.
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=1bMaS-Dq3GkBeat ya to it. On the nanny thread.
There's a new nanny in town...
It's a difficult proposition, you want to help out those who are suffering and stuck in a war but as isis grows in Syria they takeover everything including the passports. It's a shame the same offers aren't being made to Christians who are stuck in refugee camps in Jordan not allowed to work or become citizens of the country. Obama seems to be more interested in helping the Muslims. Syria has some of the oldest Christian communities in the world. They are being overrun and destroyed by Isis doesn't get a lot of press.
Armenian Christians from Aleppo (Halab), Syria living continuously there since 107 B.C.
Why are they in a war and suffering? Never ever in a million years thought that might be down to the fault of your nation and the despots it sells arms to? If the West was serious, then Blair and Bush would be behind bars for war crimes and the region left to its own devices. But no, there is money to be made in the turmoil of others. Sicko's.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
bush & blair the double pair of devils white devils evil anglo-saxon war mongersQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhy are they in a war and suffering? Never ever in a million years thought that might be down to the fault of your nation and the despots it sells arms to? If the West was serious, then Blair and Bush would be behind bars for war crimes and the region left to its own devices. But no, there is money to be made in the turmoil of others. Sicko's.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
***<<<special curses on bush and blair
with these verses of McNair>>>***
from this moment they both are tagged:
brutally beaten, bound & gagged
:shocking::shocking::shocking::shocking::shocking: :shocking::shocking::shocking::shocking:
@Brocktonbockbust @miles
Utter utter twats. Bush and Blair were two great leaders. Those terrorists are responsible for their sickness, no one else, to blame others is to follow their disgusting logic, utter utter twats
Great fuckups yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
kudos to Blair for apologizing for a war that saw him leave office in shame. Pre Bush/Blair these killings were isolated events.
Even more interesting..right wing media disagrees with your assessment and claims Obama invented and funds ISIS.... that's utter utter..butter Bolshevik..
A group that many members were once called ..................Al Queda.
You know the group that America under Carter and Reagan allied themselves with to fight Russia in Afghanistan? :rolleyes:
Yeah that one.;D
I'm sure you uh...might have seen the photo of the muhajadeen sitting in the white house with Saint Reagan?:confused:
Sleeping With the Devil: How U.S. and Saudi Backing of Al Qaeda Led to 9/11 Washington's Blog
Yeah;D. That Reagan!; the one who never went to church as President..whose woman practiced astrology...what the bible condemns...:p
And brought Muslim fighters....to the White House
http://i1.wp.com/www.globalresearch....size=710%2C471
Thank Reagan and Lt General Odom preceded by National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski who said that the U.S. organized and supported Bin Laden and the other originators of “Al Qaeda” to fight the Soviets.
Brzezinski told Al Qaeda’s forefathers – the Mujahadin:
We know of their deep belief in god – that they’re confident that their struggle will succeed. That land over – there is yours – and you’ll go back to it some day, because your fight will prevail, and you’ll have your homes, your mosques, back again, because your cause is right, and god is on your side.
Before America they were wackos with limited power. Now they are oozing confidence since Afghanistan 1979- to 1985 and post graduate school the Iraqi Madrassa...school of advanced terrorism thanks to Bush Jr a prolific fuckup. Degreed in advanced fuckin up....yes Bush is truly...
A great leader of fuckin up...
First. Canada has close to 40 million people not 14 million.
Second. Mediocrity has failed and nothing can be clearer than that givin the last 50 years or 4000 depending how far you want to trace the guts of these problems.
Third. Because mediocrity and eternal bombing and interventions have failed imo my country either has to go all in humanitarian or do nothing. Either go in that way or let them fall and fail on their own.
Fourth. Some of these countries simply cannot function w/o a brutal dictator. Thats simply an empirical fact. Unfortunately these people are the Wests best buffer against those who still live in the 5th century and think that way.
Fifth. France has the biggest Muslim population in Europe and Belgium the second. The trouble with these countries is that they dont really allow these people to assimilate. So this radicalization we all wonder about is right there.
Sixth. There are about a million Syrians in Germany Brock so the cat is already out of the bag and that's in a country the size of a large donut.
Finally. Anonymous has done more to screw over these people in 2 weeks that the most powerful military's have done in 20 years.
Not only are you a boxing historian, you are a person who talks total sense and balance.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
AGREE. THE WEST HAS MADE A MESS AND IS EXPERIENCING BLOWBACK BIG TIME. SADDAM SAID "THIS WILL BE THE MOTHER OF ALL WARS". HE WAS THINKING LONG TERM, HE WASNT REFERRING TO THE ACTUAL 2003 INVASSION BY WAR CRIMINALS BUSH AND BLAIR. THESE ISIS GUYS ARE LARGELY EX-SADDAM HUSSEIN'S ELITE GUARDS. THIS IS LONG-TERM PAYBACK ON A GRAND SCALE.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
I agree with alot of what you said
About 50 years ago we should have stopped; up tp 1979 we should have stopped. But we, the US, created, funded and trained the monster of "radical Islam." That has grown out of hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
it needs to be handled. In 1985 that would have been simple; kill a few thousand. Now I think it is exterminate two billion....or live in fear all the time, every place.
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Originally Posted by greynotsooldAbout 50 years ago we should have stopped; up tp 1979 we should have stopped. But we, the US, created, funded and trained the monster of "radical Islam." That has grown out of hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
it needs to be handled. In 1985 that would have been simple; kill a few thousand. Now I think it is exterminate two billion....or live in fear all the time, every place.
The Usa imo gets blamed way to much for problems that started centuries ago my friend. They may be responsible in part for its eternal nature but the seeds were sown before America ever existed. Its just that today they are the most powerful and have been and continue to be the one expected to solve the worlds problems. By extension of course they are then blamed for not finding a solution or when things get out of control. Sure they have made matters worse in some areas but the thing is nobody else ever does anything. I'm one of the first to blame them but history itself is to blame and that includes a lot of players.
Bush made a tactical and moral error by reacting the way he did after 911 but the problems between Shia and Sunni have existed since Iraq and Syria were born and they are the two oldest civilizations on earth. The West gave birth to Isis but the core problems have been there forever. We tend to focus on the present and really these things have been brewing in modern times since before the birth of our grandparents.
I'm not blaming Britain either but there was a time when their empire covered 1 fourth of the worlds land mass or something like 14 million square miles. In 1875 they purchased Egypt's interest in the Suez canal because it was a gateway to India. The industrial revolution had not even started yet.
What followed was the Anglo-Egyptian war of 1882 over debts with Britain taking over the country. Following that the Ottoman Empire was split apart in 1915. A short time later they financed the Great Arab Revolt in 1916 with a secret agreement with Russia getting involved.
The Sykes-Picot agreement parceled out the oil properties dividing them with France after WW1. It's when the "we know whats best for them" western mentality started. Its been a hundred years of thinking that by all of us in the west now and nothing has changed. It appears they dont want to socially evolve according to our scales.
The problem now is that there seems to be a growing resentment over what the west has done in the past and a real rage about us continuing to do so. And sadly they are winning. 24/7 coverage of every event. How about we choose not to cover it instead? The news media acting like the body count is a quarterback stat. How about not mentioning the deaths? Cities shutting down with a random fart causing absolute hysteria. The politics of pure fear.
I dont know what the solution is but somebody needs to flip the script.
Well, that was a tad long winded my friend;D
The news in the 1960-70s-80s didn't report these atrocities mainly because groups like Taliban, Hezbollah to Al Qaeda were operating in certain territories based on politIcal outcomes not Sunni Shia differences.
Sunni and Shia haven't been waging continue war against each other for thousands of years. That is false.
Today's fight is more politIcal and even ideological than religious or sectarian.
Taliban a political movement based on Afghanistan issues- politIcs started them.
Hezbollah a political Movement based on Lebanon issues funded by Iran backed by Syria- not created to fight in the name of sectarianism.
Al Qaeda another group that didn't exist for thousands, not even hundreds of years. Preaching that
a Christian–Jewish alliance is conspiring to destroy Islam. Again. Not created to fight Muslims.
As Salafist: another groups born the previous century focused on killing government officials, politicians and foreigners not formed to kill Muslims.
PLO Yasser Arafat's Palestinian liberation moment didn't come to being to wage war against Muslims, rather standing to fight A new nation Israel backed by the UN telling them GET OUT you ain't got no land..live on a strip of land. They fought to get back their land not to engage in sectarian killings.
Dawa again.another political group using theocracy in place of government issues aka politics. Yet another group that took to running for political positions and not to fIght Muslims.
Wahhabism the oldest of all aBove did Fight against Muslims but not on the basis of Sunni vs Shia.rather a lifestyle that today would be called the westernizing of Muslims. Ironically son of Ibn Saud unified with him...his region what we today call modern Saudi Arabia.
Osama considered a student of such...as his letter to America post 9-11 denounced western culture...and his blood brethren who accepted such a lifestyle aka Saddam Hussein who loved Stalin.
I'm not agreeing with him, but pointing out when Muslims did fight each other....it was nothing like the shit we've seen since 9-11 2001.
Pre 2001 mosques were sanctuaries for both, what happened after thousands of years of such tHinking..NOW they bomb mosques?
Who can recite shit like this happening in the 1970s? 1520s? These organizations never existed back then. ISIS or ISIL is no more influenced by the Koran than the KKK loving the bible.
But that didn't make a klansmen a Christian any more then reading a Korean can make a ISIL member a Muslim.
America is directly responsible for this monster. Disagree? Then denounce Zbrewsinski. Call him a liar. Denounce Reagan who brought those nutfucks to the White House and voiced HIS SUPPORT.
Denounce Jewish neocon Richard Perle who help graft the Iraq Liberation act..that he and neocons wrote for Clinton to sign...aka regime change.
Denounce Pentagon undersecretary Paul Wolfowitz who said his administration (Bush Jr) used WMD to go invade Iraq...because they didn't think the American people would want to..if they really knew why Cheney...and Bush leading from behind his Vice...were really invading for...
Just like the west great model...DIVIDE then conquer worked when natives in AmerIca had to discern wHich European to ally themselves with..England, Spain, France...would inevitably mean one Indian tribe that already had differences with..would now become a permanent enemy. Before Europeans Navajo, Cherokee, Potomac, So many tribes didn't get along, so they divided land to live in peace.
Same with Sunni and Shia...until the great dividers and conquerors came..
Why only 26,000? I mean in this world right now nearly 3 BILLION people live on less than $2.50 a day and more than 1.3 BILLION live on less than $1.25 a day.
The West should take in 100% of EVERYONE......because we care. You can't turn your back on those people!
10,000,000 displaced Syrians
2.5 Million Afghan refugees
660,000 from Sudan
410,000 from the Congo
and the United States is only taking in 70,000 a year.
And fucking who cares if they have different systems of belief and when I say different systems of belief I'm only meaning the bare basics of the foundation that Western Civilization is fucking built on. Like Freedom of speech....which is great if you want to express yourself however you like....unless you insult the Prophet Muhammad....slandering Jews, perfectly fine.....insulting the Prophet, I mean the line must be drawn somewhere right?
It is pretty easy for the tyrants in charge. No matter what they do people are just not willing to stand up. Flood the borders, bomb the world, enslave by banking. People don't seem to care less. Fracking 'till I die. Groovy, dear. Just groovy. Like Lyle says let them all in and how dare you suggest the Queen give up a room.