How does this fight go if fury beats klit in rematch?
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How does this fight go if fury beats klit in rematch?
The fight needs to happen , wilder can't keep digging up corpses to fight.
It will at least show us what wilder has in his locker.
Fury is a much better boxer/natural fighter than Wilder. However, Wilder has bombs in his gloves and would at least detonate them if getting outboxed. He doesn't come across as the type to shit himself when facing a fellow big man.
So I pick Fury, although Wilder could chin anyone with a good clump.
Even the soft defences theyve given him have pushed him;D
Careful Ross, Tyson hasn't made any defences yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
But answering the question of the thread, at this moment in time, after last night, I would lean towards Fury.
Well as long as Wlad doesnt bottle it he has Wlad next in Germany again!Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraCareful Ross, Tyson hasn't made any defences yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
But answering the question of the thread, at this moment in time, after last night, I would lean towards Fury.
Most would still favour Wlad over the rest of the division.
I think thats a harder fight than Molina and Duhaupas?;D
Fury was confident and elusive last night but can someone post the compubox numbers as they hardly ever hit each other.
Hopefully fury pumps that jab in the rematch and puts some combinations together!
Wilder will not fight like wlad and will want the fight to end in less than 6 rounds.
At the end of the day lets make the fight , we want big fights.
Psychologically and hype wise Fury would have Wilder freaked out and unsure before the bell even sounded ;D He'd do his bravado shtick, come in wearing a Batman outfit and I still think Wilder has cocooned himself with a bit of manufactured confidence. The soft touches, the non involvement outside heavyweight scene and press and retreating back to his High School gym in his hometown saying its the only place he wants to fight. Has he even been asked or interviewed about yesterdays huge shake up??? Considering he is the other belt holder supposedly in line for Wlad and all?
Wilder's biggest concern to me is his willingness to fight moving backwards. Fury will dominate that way.
Wilder, who doesn't have half the skill of Wladimir , does know how to fight on the inside. He rarely clinches. Will that be to his average?
His uppercut is as nasty as his right hand. He will fight back with when hit. Does Fury have the power to keep Wilder honest?
Not if...but when Wilder land a big shot he follows up. Will Fury exchange when hit by wilder or will he initiate the clench?
This fight will come down to the chin and stamina.
I got Wilder over Fury.
Really? Wlad gets Germany again? Should be in U.K. was that in the rematch clause?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWell as long as Wlad doesnt bottle it he has Wlad next in Germany again!Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraCareful Ross, Tyson hasn't made any defences yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
But answering the question of the thread, at this moment in time, after last night, I would lean towards Fury.
Most would still favour Wlad over the rest of the division.
I think thats a harder fight than Molina and Duhaupas?;D
Wilder doesn't have any discipline when he has someone in trouble, he windmills his arms like some kid having a scrap in the school playground, when he has fought tougher opponents he hasn't been able to rock them like the lower end of the scale that he fought.
I would fancy Fury to beat him.
Would have thought so.Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestReally? Wlad gets Germany again? Should be in U.K. was that in the rematch clause?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWell as long as Wlad doesnt bottle it he has Wlad next in Germany again!Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraCareful Ross, Tyson hasn't made any defences yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
But answering the question of the thread, at this moment in time, after last night, I would lean towards Fury.
Most would still favour Wlad over the rest of the division.
I think thats a harder fight than Molina and Duhaupas?;D
Its a nice earner for Fury.
He doesnt mind fighting away from home, leave K2 to promote, get the lions share and create a fan base in Europe.
The only other fight thats meaningful out there right now for him is that unification and Wilder is fucking around again in January and then has Povetkin as long as neither lose inbetween, so cant see any unification for around a year yet.
We see it from different perspectives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
What discipline for Fury have that Wilder doesn't? You say wilder windmills when he gets someone in trouble...
I see it as going for the kill... No matter how it looks. When Forman was throwing against a hurt Frazier, they weren't textbook shots, they were haymakers.
Except Tyson... Not too many HWs throw accurate bombs.
You state he hasn't always been able to rock every fight.. I say he's stopped all but one opponent.
Neither Fury nor Wilder are textbook fighters. They will neverbe.
I think the words skill, experience and sweet science don't
Apply to many HWs.
Wilder vs Fury won't come down to skill, accuracy, sweet science... hell they both started around the same time so experience won't play a factor.
IMO it will be about who lands hard and who can suck it up.
I got Wilder.
Errrm? How about enough to get through 12 rounds with the best and most dangerous fighter in the world?Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeWe see it from different perspectives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
What discipline for Fury have that Wilder doesn't? You say wilder windmills when he gets someone in trouble...
I see it as going for the kill... No matter how it looks. When Forman was throwing against a hurt Frazier, they weren't textbook shots, they were haymakers.
Except Tyson... Not too many HWs throw accurate bombs.
You state he hasn't always been able to rock every fight.. I say he's stopped all but one opponent.
Neither Fury nor Wilder are textbook fighters. They will neverbe.
I think the words skill, experience and sweet science don't
Apply to many HWs.
Wilder vs Fury won't come down to skill, accuracy, sweet science... hell they both started around the same time so experience won't play a factor.
IMO it will be about who lands hard and who can suck it up.
I got Wilder.
I like Wilder, but honestly, I see Fury out boxing him and winning. Fury has definitely got the advantage in skill and movement, and seemingly stamina based on Saturday's performance. I think for Wilder to win, he would have to hope to draw Fury into an exchange, but I don't see Fury falling for it.
I think people are excited about the heavyweight division again because they see more even playing field match ups with out Wlad or rather the Klitschkos having a hold but if Fury is good enough to beat Wlad easy then who really is going to push him?
Wilder is still a work in progress which is ridiculous to have to say about a world champion with two defences under his belt! If hes not ready now he never will be.
It will be an i teresting fight and exciting build up and will bring massive exposure but I cant see Wilder landing much.
Errrm..you mean the one that has threads about how he won only because he fought in a weak era?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossErrrm? How about enough to get through 12 rounds with the best and most dangerous fighter in the world?Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeWe see it from different perspectives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
What discipline for Fury have that Wilder doesn't? You say wilder windmills when he gets someone in trouble...
I see it as going for the kill... No matter how it looks. When Forman was throwing against a hurt Frazier, they weren't textbook shots, they were haymakers.
Except Tyson... Not too many HWs throw accurate bombs.
You state he hasn't always been able to rock every fight.. I say he's stopped all but one opponent.
Neither Fury nor Wilder are textbook fighters. They will neverbe.
I think the words skill, experience and sweet science don't
Apply to many HWs.
Wilder vs Fury won't come down to skill, accuracy, sweet science... hell they both started around the same time so experience won't play a factor.
IMO it will be about who lands hard and who can suck it up.
I got Wilder.
The Wlad ...that has a thread here that he was never a p4p best?
If you are or have defended Wlad as a great...then I understand your point.
And getting through a fight where both guys landed single digits every round...
Flailing, clinching, mauling...err.uh...wilder for all his faults....
Doesn't clinch.
Totally different fight will occur. I stand firm: the winner here won't survive clinches... It will be bombs.
May the best big dude win!
Man! I just can't agree with you at all. I just do not see Fury as anything but a fighter, as a boxer he is crude at best! He uses his size, strength, and inner grit to win. He also impressed me with his ability to stick to a plan or change it as needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Wilder is crude also, and like you say he has plenty of power.
I can't see a clear winner, but after the Klitschko fight I'm leaning toward Fury too! Maybe we'll find out one of these days.
Fury likely to get tagged and on his back more than once, but after 4 rounds I'd expect him to take over the fight, causing Wilder to lose hope and stop him by the 9th.
Wilder is a very very good athlete, aggressive and has a good punch. He will always have a punchers chance, whoever he fights.
Fury seems to have a dodgy technique, hasn't got a big punch for his size and certainly doesn't have an athletes body!
However, Fury is a fighter through and through, and I suspect Wilder is a great athlete who happens to be a boxer.
For that reason, I'd lean towards Fury
Tough to call. Unlike Wlad, Wilder would actually throw punches. A Wilder bomb would definitely hurt Fury and could turn or end the fight on short notice. Yet, Fury has elusive boxing skills, and knows what he's doing in there. Wilder would have to worry about Fury's own counters, and from what we've seen Wilder can get staggered.
I'd give Fury a slight edge, if only because of the extreme confidence booster (not that he lacked any before) that was his victory over Wlad.
I like fury.
I want him to have a great run.
There is no way he beats wilder.
Styles makes fights and if wilder can't find fury after a few rounds he will start swinging.