Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
Without his weight class being exposed, or being as deep as others, it's hard to gauge how good he is. But from what I've seen, he has for-real skill.
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
I think the division is full of talent and good fighters
Yutaka Niida
Rodel Mayol
Eagle Kyowa
Theres also the posibility of moving up to 108 and fighting these guys
Roberto Vasquez
Hugo Cazares
Ulises Solis
Nelson Dieppa
even Brian Viloria ;) that would be a great match up 'puncher vs. boxer'
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I think the division is full of talent and good fighters
Yutaka Niida
Rodel Mayol
Eagle Kyowa
Theres also the posibility of moving up to 108 and fighting these guys
Roberto Vasquez
Hugo Cazares
Ulises Solis
Nelson Dieppa
even Brian Viloria ;) that would be a great match up 'puncher vs. boxer'
I agree with moving up. I have watched those guys, but I havent seen Mayol or Kyowa, only what I've read, and action speaks louder than paper.
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
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Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I think the division is full of talent and good fighters
Yutaka Niida
Rodel Mayol
Eagle Kyowa
Theres also the posibility of moving up to 108 and fighting these guys
Roberto Vasquez
Hugo Cazares
Ulises Solis
Nelson Dieppa
even Brian Viloria ;) that would be a great match up 'puncher vs. boxer'
I agree with moving up. I have watched those guys, but I havent seen Mayol or Kyowa, only what I've read, and action speaks louder than paper.
What would you say to a Iron Boy vs. Hawaiian Punch showdown?
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I think the division is full of talent and good fighters
Yutaka Niida
Rodel Mayol
Eagle Kyowa
Theres also the posibility of moving up to 108 and fighting these guys
Roberto Vasquez
Hugo Cazares
Ulises Solis
Nelson Dieppa
even Brian Viloria ;) that would be a great match up 'puncher vs. boxer'
I agree with moving up. I have watched those guys, but I havent seen Mayol or Kyowa, only what I've read, and action speaks louder than paper.
What would you say to a Iron Boy vs. Hawaiian Punch showdown?
Great fight. Would love to see it. They should try to make that fight and put it on the same card as Arce vs Darcinyan, what a night!
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
calderon has skills but lacks power. rodel mayol has power and skills but hasn't been tested against the best. i think he can beat ivan. mayol is an exciting fighter and if he beats kyowa on may 6, which i think he will, he just might face calderon.
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
I'd love for him to move up in weight and see how his skill does with raw power from the bigger boys.
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i don't think he can compete with the elite fighters if he moves up. besides, he's too short.
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
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Originally Posted by Kkisser
i don't think he can compete with the elite fighters if he moves up. besides, he's too short.
Yeah, he does look like a little boy.
His defense is unbeatable at his weight. Opening up his defense is possible. The only way to beat him is to sound off Ice Cream Truck music, during the fight. So he turns to his corner and asks "Do you have any quarters?" :)
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CC for raising the issue,I think these little guys deserve waaaaay more credit than they recieve! I have seen him in action a few times and I think if he were to fight Viloria, it would be awesome!!!! What do you guys think of Boom Boom Bautista?
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I think the division is full of talent and good fighters
Yutaka Niida
Rodel Mayol
Eagle Kyowa
Theres also the posibility of moving up to 108 and fighting these guys
Roberto Vasquez
Hugo Cazares
Ulises Solis
Nelson Dieppa
even Brian Viloria ;) that would be a great match up 'puncher vs. boxer'
I would love to see a Viloria Calderon matchup, that would be nice. Sort of on a side note, do you ever think the smallest weights will get the exposure they need for big money fights? I know 10, 20 years ago you wouldnt of predicted how much exposure featherweight and lightwieght were going to get (and be more exciting than heavyweight), but I dont ever see divisions like Straweight drawing attention. Its a shame because fighters like Vasquez, Calderon and Viloria deserve greater exposure and recognition for their skills.
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
the little lads dont get anywhere near the exposure and publicity that there skills deserve. no one wants to see em, its a shame.
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
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Originally Posted by The Game
CC for raising the issue,I think these little guys deserve waaaaay more credit than they recieve! I have seen him in action a few times and I think if he were to fight Viloria, it would be awesome!!!! What do you guys think of Boom Boom Bautista?
i think viloria is too big for calderon. brian is a natural flyweight fighting at light fly while ivan is a natural minimumweight. i'm telling you the guy to watch out for is rodel mayol. this pinoy will dominate his division, which he shares with calderon, in due time.
rey bautista is another good exciting pinoy prospect. he's like a little tito trinidad but i think he needs a little more experience. he's only 19 and in a couple of years i'm sure he'll be a world champ with freddy roach training him.
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Originally Posted by Kkisser
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Originally Posted by The Game
CC for raising the issue,I think these little guys deserve waaaaay more credit than they recieve! I have seen him in action a few times and I think if he were to fight Viloria, it would be awesome!!!! What do you guys think of Boom Boom Bautista?
i think viloria is too big for calderon. brian is a natural flyweight fighting at light fly while ivan is a natural minimumweight. i'm telling you the guy to watch out for is rodel mayol. this pinoy will dominate his division, which he shares with calderon, in due time.
rey bautista is another good exciting pinoy prospect. he's like a little tito trinidad but i think he needs a little more experience. he's only 19 and in a couple of years i'm sure he'll be a world champ with freddy roach training him.
CC for responding!!! I saw him spar with Viloria, looked quite good and yeah your right, he is like Tito,he has power but he can be shaken too. I think he went down in his last fight right??
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Originally Posted by The Game
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Originally Posted by Kkisser
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Originally Posted by The Game
CC for raising the issue,I think these little guys deserve waaaaay more credit than they recieve! I have seen him in action a few times and I think if he were to fight Viloria, it would be awesome!!!! What do you guys think of Boom Boom Bautista?
i think viloria is too big for calderon. brian is a natural flyweight fighting at light fly while ivan is a natural minimumweight. i'm telling you the guy to watch out for is rodel mayol. this pinoy will dominate his division, which he shares with calderon, in due time.
rey bautista is another good exciting pinoy prospect. he's like a little tito trinidad but i think he needs a little more experience. he's only 19 and in a couple of years i'm sure he'll be a world champ with freddy roach training him.
CC for responding!!! I saw him spar with Viloria, looked quite good and yeah your right, he is like Tito,he has power but he can be shaken too. I think he went down in his last fight right??
yup, he went down in the midround but got back up, recovered and dominated the rest of the rounds for a UD. it's good that he experienced the kd early in his career so that it'll only improve his game in his suceeding fights. golden boy has taken on promoting boomboom's fights in the US so his future is looking bright.
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Is it me or are these lower divisions 108-130 just BRIMMINg with awesome fighters?? Soooo many great matches that are going to happen or should happen!!
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I think the division is full of talent and good fighters
Yutaka Niida
Rodel Mayol
Eagle Kyowa
Theres also the posibility of moving up to 108 and fighting these guys
Roberto Vasquez
Hugo Cazares
Ulises Solis
Nelson Dieppa
even Brian Viloria ;) that would be a great match up 'puncher vs. boxer'
I agree with moving up. I have watched those guys, but I havent seen Mayol or Kyowa, only what I've read, and action speaks louder than paper.
What would you say to a Iron Boy vs. Hawaiian Punch showdown?
I've been saying that it would be a great fight for the last 3 months HAHA ;D
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
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Originally Posted by Kkisser
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Originally Posted by The Game
CC for raising the issue,I think these little guys deserve waaaaay more credit than they recieve! I have seen him in action a few times and I think if he were to fight Viloria, it would be awesome!!!! What do you guys think of Boom Boom Bautista?
i think viloria is too big for calderon. brian is a natural flyweight fighting at light fly while ivan is a natural minimumweight. i'm telling you the guy to watch out for is rodel mayol. this pinoy will dominate his division, which he shares with calderon, in due time.
rey bautista is another good exciting pinoy prospect. he's like a little tito trinidad but i think he needs a little more experience. he's only 19 and in a couple of years i'm sure he'll be a world champ with freddy roach training him.
As we've seen before power & size isn't always everything....Calderon has the skills to outbox him.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I think the division is full of talent and good fighters
Yutaka Niida
Rodel Mayol
Eagle Kyowa
Theres also the posibility of moving up to 108 and fighting these guys
Roberto Vasquez
Hugo Cazares
Ulises Solis
Nelson Dieppa
even Brian Viloria ;) that would be a great match up 'puncher vs. boxer'
I agree with moving up. I have watched those guys, but I havent seen Mayol or Kyowa, only what I've read, and action speaks louder than paper.
What would you say to a Iron Boy vs. Hawaiian Punch showdown?
I've been saying that it would be a great fight for the last 3 months HAHA ;D
:coolclick: for noticing the future match up.
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Kkisser
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Originally Posted by The Game
CC for raising the issue,I think these little guys deserve waaaaay more credit than they recieve! I have seen him in action a few times and I think if he were to fight Viloria, it would be awesome!!!! What do you guys think of Boom Boom Bautista?
i think viloria is too big for calderon. brian is a natural flyweight fighting at light fly while ivan is a natural minimumweight. i'm telling you the guy to watch out for is rodel mayol. this pinoy will dominate his division, which he shares with calderon, in due time.
rey bautista is another good exciting pinoy prospect. he's like a little tito trinidad but i think he needs a little more experience. he's only 19 and in a couple of years i'm sure he'll be a world champ with freddy roach training him.
As we've seen before power & size isn't always everything....Calderon has the skills to outbox him.
true, calderon has skills to outbox brian but sooner or later brian's power and size would just eventually overwhelm him especially since ivan doesn't have the power to keep him off. it would be like vic darchinyan's last fight against diosdado gabi... too big and too powerful.
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
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Originally Posted by AC-Cobra
I caught a highlight reel of this kid the other day. He is phenomenal! Obviously he's never gonna get that much exposure as hes a straweight, but still, his skills are tremendous. I know I'm gonna get jumped on for this, but if people will actualy look at footage of him, I say his pure boxing skills are on a par with Mayweather's, I cant choose. Anyone else got any views on the little man?
I disagree he doesn't have Mayweather's skill in terms of boxing prowess, and I don't even feel he's as fast one vs. one punch or in reflexes.
Re: Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
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Originally Posted by Kkisser
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Kkisser
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Originally Posted by The Game
CC for raising the issue,I think these little guys deserve waaaaay more credit than they recieve! I have seen him in action a few times and I think if he were to fight Viloria, it would be awesome!!!! What do you guys think of Boom Boom Bautista?
i think viloria is too big for calderon. brian is a natural flyweight fighting at light fly while ivan is a natural minimumweight. i'm telling you the guy to watch out for is rodel mayol. this pinoy will dominate his division, which he shares with calderon, in due time.
rey bautista is another good exciting pinoy prospect. he's like a little tito trinidad but i think he needs a little more experience. he's only 19 and in a couple of years i'm sure he'll be a world champ with freddy roach training him.
As we've seen before power & size isn't always everything....Calderon has the skills to outbox him.
true, calderon has skills to outbox brian but sooner or later brian's power and size would just eventually overwhelm him especially since ivan doesn't have the power to keep him off. it would be like vic darchinyan's last fight against diosdado gabi... too big and too powerful.
but he does have the speed to get away, and keep Valoria lost and confused, Calderon's movement is top notch, and i think he could beat Valoria obviously by UD
