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Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?
Why do people assume David Haye deserves title shots simply by being David Haye? The guy goes AWOL for a few years..... pissed away the one shot he begged so mightily for..... and is nothing but an obnoxious mouth, making Amir Khan look like a choirboy in comparison.
Shouldn't Haye have to earn his way to a title shot for once? Have him fight Wlad again, now that Wlad isn't the champ anymore. That would be one of the few instances I would be rooting for Wlad. (Hmm... come to think of it, the other time was when he fought Haye the first time).
I got my first wish with Wlad being removed from the HW throne and now maybe having an exciting division for the first time in more than a decade. My second wish would be to watch someone dump Haye on his ass, so he could retire and go make movies or something.
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Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?
david haye is an exciting fighter and an interesting character
Who would you rather read fury fight?
Be good if haye is still a force and a fight between the pair happened
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david haye is an exciting fighter and an interesting character
Who would you rather read fury fight?
Be good if haye is still a force and a fight between the pair happened
Would have been good if hed actually have gone through with the fight the first time, or the second time!;D;D;D
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It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.
I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
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Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?
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Kirkland Laing
It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.
I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
Wake up!
The only risk in a Haye fight is Haye pulling out for a third time!
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Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?
People are talking about it because the idea of the fight takes hold in the mind pretty easily.
Will never happen though.
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Kirkland Laing
It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.
I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
Two Englishmen fighting for the world heavyweight title is a huge deal indeed. I know this place would be buzzing. ;D However, I have a problem with any fighter, not just Haye, feeling like he can just exist around the fringes of boxing, then come strutting in to get a title shot. It's absurd and a slap in the face to all the contenders who work toward actually earning their shots. About Fury ducking Wilder and Haye, I can't say since I haven't been all that exposed to Fury other than the Cunningham fight and now this one. He certainly made good on his word to rid us of Wlad. ;D If Fury fought Wilder, for me it would be a tossup, and I'd be happy with any result as long as it was a good, entertaining, quality fight. If Fury fought Haye, I'd be rooting against Haye almost as much, if not more, as I was rooting against Wlad.
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I hope Fury sticks to his word, relinquish the belt if Gaye Hayes gets ranked.
That is the one time I'd applaud a Fighter for refusing to fight.
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Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?
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Kirkland Laing
It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.
I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
Wake up!
The only risk in a Haye fight is Haye pulling out for a third time!
.......which again, is what your father should have done
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Kirkland Laing
It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.
I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
Wake up!
The only risk in a Haye fight is Haye pulling out for a third time!
.......which again, is what your father should have done
Maybe Wlad should have taken a leaf out of Hayes book and also pulled out a second time and you wouldnt be sulking on here with no new material and everyone laughing at you now;D
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El Kabong
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ross
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Kirkland Laing
It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.
I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
Wake up!
The only risk in a Haye fight is Haye pulling out for a third time!
.......which again, is what your father should have done
Maybe Wlad should have taken a leaf out of Hayes book and also pulled out a second time and you wouldnt be sulking on here with no new material and everyone laughing at you now;D
Pulling the other calf would've been a little suspicious.
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Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?
Fury should fight Haye on channel 5 and hand him a beating in front of 20 million viewers as a thank you to all his fans and enemies of Haye.
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I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous answer in this thread......
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...er-fights.html
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Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?
Haye is much more popular than Fury in the UK. Fury would have the villain role in that fight
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Fenster
Haye is much more popular than Fury in the UK. Fury would have the villain role in that fight
No way, perhaps 3 years ago that could have been true but Haye has let down too many fans and performed so badly he is the villain.
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Haye is much more popular than Fury in the UK. Fury would have the villain role in that fight
No way, perhaps 3 years ago that could have been true but Haye has let down too many fans and performed so badly he is the villain.
Hope you're right, @Master .
Otherwise it's a pretty damning statement on the boxing fanhood of the UK.
It's like saying Chavez Jr. is more popular in Mexico than Canelo.
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Haye is much more popular than Fury in the UK. Fury would have the villain role in that fight
No way, perhaps 3 years ago that could have been true but Haye has let down too many fans and performed so badly he is the villain.
Yeah I think because Fury has proven himself as genuine, it would have to be Haye, who is cast off in some way. Haye is still currently more popular and more of a household name than Fury. Maybe not for long though?
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James Toney is more active than David Gaye. He deserves his final shot at a title.
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TitoFan
Why do people assume David Haye deserves title shots simply by being David Haye? The guy goes AWOL for a few years..... pissed away the one shot he begged so mightily for..... and is nothing but an obnoxious mouth, making Amir Khan look like a choirboy in comparison.
Shouldn't Haye have to earn his way to a title shot for once? Have him fight Wlad again, now that Wlad isn't the champ anymore. That would be one of the few instances I would be rooting for Wlad. (Hmm... come to think of it, the other time was when he fought Haye the first time).
I got my first wish with Wlad being removed from the HW throne and now maybe having an exciting division for the first time in more than a decade. My second wish would be to watch someone dump Haye on his ass, so he could retire and go make movies or something.
Rey don't you see the irony of your question ?
"Why are people talking about fury v Haye ".
Ask yourself that as you started the thread ! :)
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Master
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Haye is much more popular than Fury in the UK. Fury would have the villain role in that fight
No way, perhaps 3 years ago that could have been true but Haye has let down too many fans and performed so badly he is the villain.
Haye is making a comeback at the O2 against a nobody (20,000 arena). He has over a million twitter followers. Whether or not YOU like him he is massively popular. Just the same as whether or not YOU don't like PPV it works!!!
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Haye doesn't deserve to make another penny out of boxing.
Fury's dad summed it up in the presser yesterday saying we're all gullible and going to give him a living - two years ago he said he'd been advised never to fight again ?
I remember him being a pundit on some fight back then and he showed up with his arm in a sling and some squeezy ball in his hand to exercise - utter bollox
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James Toney is more active than David Gaye. He deserves his final shot at a title.
I hate that slurring whale......... and yet, I'd rather see him get a title shot than Haye.
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James Toney is more active than David Gaye. He deserves his final shot at a title.
I hate that slurring whale......... and yet, I'd rather see
him get a title shot than Haye.
James Toney needs to retire. Stop encouraging him.
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TitoFan
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Gandalf
James Toney is more active than David Gaye. He deserves his final shot at a title.
I hate that slurring whale......... and yet, I'd rather see
him get a title shot than Haye.
James Toney needs to retire. Stop encouraging him.
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James Toney needs to retire. Stop encouraging him.
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Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?
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TitoFan
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Kirkland Laing
It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.
I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
Two Englishmen fighting for the world heavyweight title is a huge deal indeed. I know
this place would be buzzing. ;D However, I have a problem with
any fighter, not just Haye, feeling like he can just exist around the fringes of boxing, then come strutting in to get a title shot.
It's absurd and a slap in the face to all the contenders who work toward actually earning their shots. About Fury ducking Wilder and Haye, I can't say since I haven't been all that exposed to Fury other than the Cunningham fight and now this one. He certainly made good on his word to rid us of Wlad. ;D If Fury fought Wilder, for me it would be a tossup, and I'd be happy with any result as long as it was a good, entertaining, quality fight. If Fury fought Haye, I'd be rooting against Haye almost as much, if not more, as I was rooting against Wlad.
Haye is an ex world champion. If he looks good in his comeback fight then he's marketable. I'm not sure you can name anybody who has held the heavyweight title for any length of time who hasn't fought an ex champ who is on the fringes of the heavyweight scene, especially when it's a money fight. Haye is a credible and extremely lucrative dance partner for Fury.
I'm not sure the fight happens though because Fury's people are acting like a bunch of little girls about it -- we're not even going to talk to him, not going to mention his name and so on. I think they know that if they do make the fight Haye knocks him out easily.
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I can see this happening. I don't think Fury is mentally right at all. He's probably had his best moment in the ring. I think a lot of guys out there beat him.
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Kirkland Laing
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I can see this happening. I don't think Fury is mentally right at all. He's probably had his best moment in the ring. I think a lot of guys out there beat him.
You might have a case if Tyson had blown out an unprepared, distracted Wlad but Wlad knew Tyson was his biggest threat, made sure the fight was at home in Germany and tried a few sly tricks to get advantages. Tyson beat Wlad with skill, not luck.
As for El Kabong saying he thinks Haye beats Fury after everything, id say thats just sour grapes from a sore loser;D
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Kirkland Laing
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TitoFan
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Kirkland Laing
It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.
I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
Two Englishmen fighting for the world heavyweight title is a huge deal indeed. I know
this place would be buzzing. ;D However, I have a problem with
any fighter, not just Haye, feeling like he can just exist around the fringes of boxing, then come strutting in to get a title shot.
It's absurd and a slap in the face to all the contenders who work toward actually earning their shots. About Fury ducking Wilder and Haye, I can't say since I haven't been all that exposed to Fury other than the Cunningham fight and now this one. He certainly made good on his word to rid us of Wlad. ;D If Fury fought Wilder, for me it would be a tossup, and I'd be happy with any result as long as it was a good, entertaining, quality fight. If Fury fought Haye, I'd be rooting against Haye almost as much, if not more, as I was rooting against Wlad.
Haye is an ex world champion. If he looks good in his comeback fight then he's marketable. I'm not sure you can name anybody who has held the heavyweight title for any length of time who hasn't fought an ex champ who is on the fringes of the heavyweight scene, especially when it's a money fight. Haye is a credible and extremely lucrative dance partner for Fury.
I'm not sure the fight happens though because Fury's people are acting like a bunch of little girls about it -- we're not even going to talk to him, not going to mention his name and so on. I think they know that if they do make the fight Haye knocks him out easily.
As talented as Haye might be, it's his attitude toward boxing I can't stand. If he played Monopoly, he'd want to hoard a bunch of Get Out of Jail Free cards and go directly to GO to collect his $200. Just because he's David Haye. I say f*ck'im, no matter how a fight between and Fury would actually pan out. For the record, I have no problem imagining how Fury could actually lose to Haye, maybe even by knockout. All the more reason I don't want the fight. Let Haye earn his way back, first. In fact, should Wlad lose his rematch against Fury, I'd say have Wlad and Haye meet in a "loser retire" kind of fight.
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TitoFan
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Kirkland Laing
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TitoFan
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Kirkland Laing
It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.
I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
Two Englishmen fighting for the world heavyweight title is a huge deal indeed. I know
this place would be buzzing. ;D However, I have a problem with
any fighter, not just Haye, feeling like he can just exist around the fringes of boxing, then come strutting in to get a title shot.
It's absurd and a slap in the face to all the contenders who work toward actually earning their shots. About Fury ducking Wilder and Haye, I can't say since I haven't been all that exposed to Fury other than the Cunningham fight and now this one. He certainly made good on his word to rid us of Wlad. ;D If Fury fought Wilder, for me it would be a tossup, and I'd be happy with any result as long as it was a good, entertaining, quality fight. If Fury fought Haye, I'd be rooting against Haye almost as much, if not more, as I was rooting against Wlad.
Haye is an ex world champion. If he looks good in his comeback fight then he's marketable. I'm not sure you can name anybody who has held the heavyweight title for any length of time who hasn't fought an ex champ who is on the fringes of the heavyweight scene, especially when it's a money fight. Haye is a credible and extremely lucrative dance partner for Fury.
I'm not sure the fight happens though because Fury's people are acting like a bunch of little girls about it -- we're not even going to talk to him, not going to mention his name and so on. I think they know that if they do make the fight Haye knocks him out easily.
As talented as Haye might be, it's his attitude toward boxing I can't stand. If he played Monopoly, he'd want to hoard a bunch of Get Out of Jail Free cards and go directly to GO to collect his $200. Just because he's David Haye. I say f*ck'im, no matter how a fight between and Fury would actually pan out. For the record, I have no problem imagining how Fury could actually lose to Haye, maybe even by knockout. All the more reason I don't want the fight. Let Haye earn his way back, first. In fact, should Wlad lose his rematch against Fury, I'd say have Wlad and Haye meet in a "loser retire" kind of fight.
It's professional boxing mate. It's money first second and third and everything else after that.
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I can see this happening. I don't think Fury is mentally right at all. He's probably had his best moment in the ring. I think a lot of guys out there beat him.
You might have a case if Tyson had blown out an unprepared, distracted Wlad but Wlad knew Tyson was his biggest threat, made sure the fight was at home in Germany and tried a few sly tricks to get advantages. Tyson beat Wlad with skill, not luck.
As for El Kabong saying he thinks Haye beats Fury after everything, id say thats just sour grapes from a sore loser;D
I think Fury wins a rematch but gets knocked out by at least Wilder and Fury.
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TitoFan
Why do people assume David Haye deserves title shots simply by being David Haye? The guy goes AWOL for a few years..... pissed away the one shot he begged so mightily for..... and is nothing but an obnoxious mouth, making Amir Khan look like a choirboy in comparison.
Shouldn't Haye have to earn his way to a title shot for once? Have him fight Wlad again, now that Wlad isn't the champ anymore. That would be one of the few instances I would be rooting for Wlad. (Hmm... come to think of it, the other time was when he fought Haye the first time).
I got my first wish with Wlad being removed from the HW throne and now maybe having an exciting division for the first time in more than a decade. My second wish would be to watch someone dump Haye on his ass, so he could retire and go make movies or something.
Agree 100% with @TitoFan on this one. Haye hasn't done jack. Let's see him fight Wilder first.
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Kirkland Laing
It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.
I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
When Fury faced Wlad, Wlad was the definitive champion of the division with a 90% KO rate. Wlad was the riskiest fight out there for Fury.
He also previously signed up to fight Haye twice and Haye pulled out both times. If anything, Haye ran from Fury. I can completely understand how Fury would be opposed to facing Haye now.
Speaking of Wilder and Povetkin, how high are the chances that Wilder vacates his belt to avoid facing Povetkin? How many non-title defenses against no-hopers will he take before he faces Povetkin? Wilder didn't even think he was ready to face Wlad when Fury faced the ex-champ.
Make sure to keep it all in correct perspective: Fury has proved he was willing to face Haye in the past - Haye pulled out. Haye got blanked by Wlad; Fury beat Wlad. Wilder wouldn't wasn't ready to face Wlad and Fury fought and beat Wlad. Povetkin lost to Wlad.
How about we give Fury a nice round of applause? And hold off on critiquing him until he actually avoids a fight because so far he hasn't avoided anyone and went after the toughest fight in the division.
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TitoFan
Why do people assume David Haye deserves title shots simply by being David Haye? The guy goes AWOL for a few years..... pissed away the one shot he begged so mightily for..... and is nothing but an obnoxious mouth, making Amir Khan look like a choirboy in comparison.
Shouldn't Haye have to earn his way to a title shot for once? Have him fight Wlad again, now that Wlad isn't the champ anymore. That would be one of the few instances I would be rooting for Wlad. (Hmm... come to think of it, the other time was when he fought Haye the first time).
I got my first wish with Wlad being removed from the HW throne and now maybe having an exciting division for the first time in more than a decade. My second wish would be to watch someone dump Haye on his ass, so he could retire and go make movies or something.
Agree 100% with @
TitoFan on this one. Haye hasn't done jack. Let's see him fight Wilder first.
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Kirkland Laing
It's a huge fight. It's two English guys for the heavyweight championship and it'll make huge money in Britain. It'll make several times more than the cabbage farmer has ever made for a fight. Fury looks like he's going to duck Wilder as long as he can so his moneymaking future is fighting guys in English football stadiums on UK PPV.
I think Fury will avoid Haye/Wilder level guys as long as possible assuming he wins the rematch with the Kulak but if he manages to keep hold of the belts he'll have to fight Haye, Wilder or Povetkin at some point. He definitely doesn't fancy the Haye fight. From the way he was talking on Monday he's not looking to take any risky fights.
When Fury faced Wlad, Wlad was the definitive champion of the division with a 90% KO rate. Wlad was the riskiest fight out there for Fury.
He also previously signed up to fight Haye twice and Haye pulled out both times. If anything, Haye ran from Fury. I can completely understand how Fury would be opposed to facing Haye now.
Speaking of Wilder and Povetkin, how high are the chances that Wilder vacates his belt to avoid facing Povetkin? How many non-title defenses against no-hopers will he take before he faces Povetkin? Wilder didn't even think he was ready to face Wlad when Fury faced the ex-champ.
Make sure to keep it all in correct perspective: Fury has proved he was willing to face Haye in the past - Haye pulled out. Haye got blanked by Wlad; Fury beat Wlad. Wilder wouldn't wasn't ready to face Wlad and Fury fought and beat Wlad. Povetkin lost to Wlad.
How about we give Fury a nice round of applause? And hold off on critiquing him until he actually avoids a fight because so far he hasn't avoided anyone and went after the toughest fight in the division.
Here here.
In total agreement. Fury may not have the most fan-pleasing style of fighting... or maybe that's just the way he fought against Wlad. But of all the HW's in the mix right now, he's the only one who's been willing to take the most risk. Wilder certainly hasn't... and his baby steps are beginning to annoy the sh*t out of me. (Seems after Stiverne he's taken two steps backward). Haye, well..... I can't even talk about Haye without saying a few choice bad words.
Let's see how this will all pan out. I always maintained that a Fury victory over Wlad was the best thing that could happen to the division, and I was right. All of a sudden fighters are coming out of the woodwork to challenge Fury. Or if they haven't yet, they will soon.
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What are the big risks Fury took before the jackpot Wlad fight? I know you weren't paying much attention across the pond but there seems a huge revisionist history push to make Fury something he ain't.
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What are the big risks Fury took before the jackpot Wlad fight? I know you weren't paying much attention across the pond but there seems a huge revisionist history push to make Fury something he ain't.
Signing to fight Wlads most dangerous opponent?
Fighting in 3 eliminators to face Wlad?
You can now see why people like Arreola and Adamek wanted none of Tyson Fury. They and other fighters have been offered fights. Anyway, as much as people want to piss on his chips hes THE heavyweight champion of the workd! The best fighter in the world!
The revisionists are those that prior to this fight said Fury had no chance, Wlad was on top of his game and leagues above the whole division. Now, Wlad got old and Wilder, Joshua and Haye could all beat Tyson and Wlad on the same night!;D
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Originally Posted by
Greenbeanz
What are the big risks Fury took before the jackpot Wlad fight? I know you weren't paying much attention across the pond but there seems a huge revisionist history push to make Fury something he ain't.
Well.... unless I'm mistaken it was Haye who backed out of two Fury fights, not the other way around. I've yet to hear of Fury ducking or avoiding another fighter, although I may not have all the facts. If you know something I don't, you're welcome to correct me.
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Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?
Fury won his fight by just fighting like Wlad, it was like he was fighting a younger faster clone of himself,
the fight was not a classic was it,! Fury against Haye it makes sense a really big money domestic dust up
and one I would watch, Tyson will face him if the money is right,! open air stadium full to the rafters,
of course it would sell out, a fight that can happen.;)
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Re: Why are people talking Fury-Haye now?
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Originally Posted by
Rantcatrat
When Fury faced Wlad, Wlad was the definitive champion of the division with a 90% KO rate. Wlad was the riskiest fight out there for Fury.
He also previously signed up to fight Haye twice and Haye pulled out both times. If anything, Haye ran from Fury. I can completely understand how Fury would be opposed to facing Haye now.
Speaking of Wilder and Povetkin, how high are the chances that Wilder vacates his belt to avoid facing Povetkin? How many non-title defenses against no-hopers will he take before he faces Povetkin? Wilder didn't even think he was ready to face Wlad when Fury faced the ex-champ.
Make sure to keep it all in correct perspective: Fury has proved he was willing to face Haye in the past - Haye pulled out. Haye got blanked by Wlad; Fury beat Wlad. Wilder wouldn't wasn't ready to face Wlad and Fury fought and beat Wlad. Povetkin lost to Wlad.
How about we give Fury a nice round of applause? And hold off on critiquing him until he actually avoids a fight because so far he hasn't avoided anyone and went after the toughest fight in the division.
I'm delighted Fury won and he definitely deserves a lot of credit for taking the fight. All I'm doing is speculating on what happens next and how well he's likely to do. I would say that he went for the biggest payday he could get when the Haye fight fell through and now he won he's looking to have the easiest possible run/make the most money before he faces any kind of proper threat. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that, he's not the first to think like that and he won't be the last.
