he was trying so hard-----to avoid the first fight's horror..........do you feel sorry for him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfjNVAhz9IQ
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he was trying so hard-----to avoid the first fight's horror..........do you feel sorry for him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfjNVAhz9IQ
I feel sorry for you when I read your posts...
Care to explain?Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
I think it's self explanatory to everyone but you.
Joe got annihilated by George yes I felt sorry for Joe, also may I say I feel sorry for you wife
in putting up with YOU, she is one in a million mate.;D
Nope, I feel sorry for Joe when I watch this though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPk2zl5s6xM
Sorry, i can't feel bad for Joe when all George had to work on was throwing the jab to get Joe to duck into his uppercut. George carried his hands low and never even thought about defending his head. If you make a fight that easy, you kind of had it coming.
I liked Joe over the years but he made some big mistakes and the first was showing up in the shape he was in. Joe should have got in close and rested his head on Foreman's chest as the late Ray Arcel and Freddy Brown former trainers of Roberto Duran and hit the body. His head movement was good but he stayed in front of big George. He needed a forty five degree angle and not a Karate horse stance facing him directly. Frazier couldn't jab with him and Foreman was fighting tall. The biggest mistake of all was Joe backing up and giving George punching room and you also can't wipe out the memory of their last fight. I believe this was a rematch he should never have had and he actually developed some bad habits of lunging like he did with Ali. The height difference and the clubbing right hand would have had me personally hiring a limousine to catch after the end of the first round. I would have moved so fast people would be wondering if I ever showed up. Yes I felt really bad and Joe should have prepared more or not have signed on the dotted line.
You are the kind of poster the kind of a human being and the kind of a saddoboxing fellow member who I really enjoy reading. Your posts are sincere and on the topic and you have a very kind and friendly demeanor which is very important. I appreciated your analysis of that fight very much my friend. I am also glad to see that on the human side or let's say on the emotional side that you too understood what I meant when I said that I felt sorry for him in this rematch. I also understand the previous poster's excellent point about how if he didn't have a better fight plan then that then how can we feel sorry for him. That is a point that I will try to remember from now on whenever I watch that fight. It is a valid point. If you get clubbed like that in two rounds the first time around in Kingston Jamaica then when you go to have the rematch you have a silly plan which doesn't really work or just the fact that you want a rematch to begin with means that whatever you have coming to you you will get or vice versa. Thank you for your excellent analysis my friend. Oh yes please do me a favor and send a message to that wretch @ruthless rocco The reason I say that is we are hoping here on the side of good that maybe some of your positive energy and friendliness will rub off on that miserable cockroach.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran
Awesome analysis my friend and reading your post makes me feel alot better. Sometimes I do tend to get too sensitive and if a fighter is taking too much of a clubbing I feel that it's sort of dehumanized him or maybe took away from his masculinity or something... made him feel so inferior that he would carry that pain and hurt for the rest of his life. Hey like you said if you come with a shityy fight plan against the guy like Foreman you should be prepared for the consequences great point and I appreciate your post very muchQuote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
@Dia bandoQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
It wasn't ME wife who had to take the night shift job just to get out of the house when you were around
Bullshit post.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
All I know about this, is not the fight, but Frazier shaven head. Shaven headed black people were rare in 1975. Not like nowadays
Please in your self-deluded erudition explain the connection in your comment between the post being "bullshit" and Frazier's shaven head being rare in 1976. When you have done it (I won't hold my breath as Your "High"ness will prevent you from accomplishing that) you may "knight" yourself President Buhari's righthand man.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200Bullshit post.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
All I know about this, is not the fight, but Frazier shaven head. Shaven headed black people were rare in 1975. Not like nowadays
MwaaHahaha.
She has to work nights as she can't keep her hands off ME, like the other night she had her hands round my throat.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust@Dia bandoQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
It wasn't ME wife who had to take the night shift job just to get out of the house when you were around
Certainly wasn't rare where I'm from.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200Bullshit post.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
All I know about this, is not the fight, but Frazier shaven head. Shaven headed black people were rare in 1975. Not like nowadays
Yeah, agreed. He thinks Lagos, Abuja and Kano are the whole world. When I was in Port Harcourt in 2009 for the Book Festival I saw his "petunia ass" … He was barred from the Festival on the grounds of his illiteracy! MmooooAKKKAKKKAKKKAKKKAQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel BoogustusCertainly wasn't rare where I'm from.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200Bullshit post.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
All I know about this, is not the fight, but Frazier shaven head. Shaven headed black people were rare in 1975. Not like nowadays
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Very tough to view Triple 'B'.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
George Foreman was more refined here. And much more patient.
Smokin' Joe boxed fairly well in '2' of those Rounds.
Point To be Noticed >
Smokin' Joe looked vastly smaller than George Foreman, yet he weighed in a {1/2} pound heavier.
224 1/2 to 224.
It is truly amazing how easy it was for George Foreman to land that job and it seemed as if no matter how Frazier moved his head Foreman could throw or anticipate where to throw the follow up punch
there were times when foreman throws 10 or 12 jabs in a row and he would land all 12 no matter how Frazier Bobbed or weaved. It just seemed like Joe Frazier had the absolute worst style imaginable for a guy like George Foreman. George Foreman look so relaxed in this fight I have never seen a fighter look more relaxed and if he could have gone into the ring in zaire in this manner with this totally relaxed personality and if he could have thrown 40 or 50 or 60 jabs per round I think he would a split Muhammad Ali's face wide open
Joe was past his peak after the fight of the century and probably took George too lightly but stylewise Frazier was perfect for Big George. Watching Foreman against Bugner near the end of his career was more sad as he would have smashed him at his best.
Smokin' Joe Frazier
June 15, 1976
Joe Frazier
Age ........ 32 years, 5 months
Height .... 5' 11 1/2"
Reach .... 73"
Weight ... 224 1/2 lbs.
Smokin' Joe Frazier
> An old {32 years, 5 months} fighter
> Lingering ailments
> Out of action for 8 1/2 months
> Not in shape
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