What a crock of bullcrap.
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What a crock of bullcrap.
Lol
Eubank Jr will probably challenge the Kazak before Alvarez does.
Here is a statement from the WBC Dec 12.
Anything glare out? Why no explicit remark on weight?Quote:
WBC Statement: In the last few days, the WBC has been working diligently with all interested parties to ultimately facilitate the fight between WBC Middleweight World Champion Saul Alvarez and WBC Middleweight Interim Champion Gennady Golovkin. That bout carries enormous implications and is of great importance for boxing, both in terms of history and for the future of the sport.
Many details must be addressed for or a Super-Fight of that magnitude to actually occur. The boxers’ respective promoters, Golden Boy Promotions and K2 Promotions, have been communicating in good faith to finalize the details of the negotiations for the contest to come to fruition. Recognizing that their discussions have been ongoing, the WBC has given the parties the flexibility to continue to work amicably to finalize terms, with the ultimate goal being that the two champions meet in the ring.
In order to bring closure to the negotiations, the WBC plans to attend an in-person session between the two promotional companies this weekend in Los Angeles. The WBC’s goal is to facilitate this fight, which will be of tremendous magnitude for the sport of boxing and its fans all over the world.
Here is what they put on the wire Dec 16.
A so called World governing body continuing to be complicit in denying the best middleweight since Hagler and Hopkins his rightful place. Joining the wait out train of their native son. Not sure whats worse, its premeditation, the act itself or the acceptance.Quote:
Upon the joint request of WBC middleweight world champion Saul Alvarez and WBC interim middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin, and their corresponding promotional companies Golden Boy Promotions and K2 Promotions, the WBC has ruled as follows:
Both Alvarez and Glolovkin shall be entitled to make a voluntary defense of their corresponding championships, so as to maximize the interest on their highly anticipated showdown. A 15 day free negotiation period will be ordered on the earlier of the competition of the voluntary defense or May 31, 2016 . If there is no agreement a purse bid will be conducted under the WBC rules and regulations. If after their corresponding voluntary defenses one boxer is unable to fight the other for the undisputed WBC middleweight championship of the world, the unable fighter will lose his status as champion or interim champion. The fighter able to fight will be named undisputed WBC world champion.
Canelo vs. GGG is one of the most important events in the sport of boxing and their promotional companies and partners have been communicating openly and in good faith. The ultimate goal of all involved is to make certain that the best conditions are secured for their fighters and the boxing world, and to preserve their full commitment to abide by, and respect, the governing WBC Rules & Regulations.
The WBC, as the institution governing an eventual Canelo vs. GGG fight, hereby acknowledges, supports and agrees with the parties efforts to allow the most competitive and greatest fight to take
Canelo says no CW and if that's the case with all things considered, I'm fine with it. That's if it gets anywhere near made of course. Unfortunately for Alvarez he'll resemble a watermelon exploding and be painfully stopped.
In all honesty I still think Canelo gives a sterner fight than Jacobs.
canelo cannot right now go higher than 155. dont ask me why. so they give him 10 more months to "fill out" to 160???? :confused::confused:
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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
LOL.
I'll tell you why.
He needs to grow 5 pounds of "cojones" so he can get into the ring with GGG at 160.
I'm fine with Canelo getting a fight in at the 160 pound weight limit first. He needs to fight a real middleweight first. He should fight ndam the whipping boy next. That would be a good fight for canelo to acclimate to 160. Then he can fight ggg and get destroyed.
The fight must be made but GGG should be considered the best middleweight in the world. If he was Mexican he would have been.
Oh yeah, if he was from anywhere but Russia he'd be getting a hell of a lot more attention. IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Id be very tempted to back Ndam at a big price. Id imagine hed be at least 5/1Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
It would be a good tough middleweight fight for canelo. Somebody who has proven to be tough and durable and is a decent boxer. I think canelo wins but it would be a tough fight for him. I'd love for him to fight lemieux though although I can't imagine he would risk that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeId be very tempted to back Ndam at a big price. Id imagine hed be at least 5/1Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
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Originally Posted by beenKOedOh yeah, if he was from anywhere but Russia he'd be getting a hell of a lot more attention. IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
He's not from Russia. Have some respect
i've very briefly scanned this thread and i'm not quite getting it
do people think that this fight is not going to happen?
canelo needs too much time.
Antoine Douglas will be along soon to kick the GGG Charlatin-ASS and other fakes like Canelo.
Antoine ACTION Douglas.
Keep an eye out. TYhiis kid is good.
Yes, they are giving Canelo more time as champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Exciting times though. Here we are late 2015 and we now know the middlewight division can maybe look forward to late 2016 the champ fighting a guy who never proved himself the best at 154, umm, yippee?
You say that every year. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by Master
LMAO!
Spot on.
Yes, poor GGG. Pitiful resume, I mean he's closing in on 34 and his best win is over a guy who lost to a guy in the middle of a stretch of 8 fights with only that one win. That man himself only had 1 decent win. Everyone says he's one of if not the best fighter in spite of his lack of 1 win over a top 50p4p fighter but he's a victim. They throw every excuse in the world not to fight Ward but Ward is the one bad mouthed. They claim they will fight anyone from 154-175 then change it when 175lb fighters say okay. So then it's anyone from 154-168. Then he is big enough for 168 vs Steiglitz but not for Ward, then big enough for Chavez, then not for Ward, then big enough for Froch, oh, turned out they lied to the public on that too. So I guess it's anyone from 154-160, oh wait they won't go below 160 for anyone but Floyd. Just what is their story this week? I can't keep track, these "victims" change their story so damn much who could?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
LMAO!
Spot on.
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Originally Posted by Ron SwansonYes, poor GGG. Pitiful resume, I mean he's closing in on 34 and his best win is over a guy who lost to a guy in the middle of a stretch of 8 fights with only that one win. That man himself only had 1 decent win. Everyone says he's one of if not the best fighter in spite of his lack of 1 win over a top 50p4p fighter but he's a victim. They throw every excuse in the world not to fight Ward but Ward is the one bad mouthed. They claim they will fight anyone from 154-175 then change it when 175lb fighters say okay. So then it's anyone from 154-168. Then he is big enough for 168 vs Steiglitz but not for Ward, then big enough for Chavez, then not for Ward, then big enough for Froch, oh, turned out they lied to the public on that too. So I guess it's anyone from 154-160, oh wait they won't go below 160 for anyone but Floyd. Just what is their story this week? I can't keep track, these "victims" change their story so damn much who could?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
LMAO!
Spot on.
Something that's been talked about to death, but....... why should a 160-pound fighter be forced to go up to fight Andre Ward at 168?? I'm not gonna defend GGG's list of opponents, other than to say he's never ducked anybody that I know of. Andre Ward doesn't count, 'cause you can't truly "duck" anyone who is a weight class or more above you. Besides..... I'm not a Ward fan in the slightest. Not a fan of any fighter who fights once every solar eclipse and still has fans saying he's p4p. P4P what? If every fighter had his level of activity we'd all be MMA fans by now.
All I know about GGG and Ward is this: GGG fights A HELL of a lot more often than Ward. GGG looks like he enjoys fighting and duking it out with his opponent. His style is fan-friendly. He is respectful and engaging outside the ring. Ward calls himself SOG, and fights every half-decade or so. His style can be as exciting as grass growing.
A tale of three fighters: Canelo, GGG, Ward.
Canelo CAN, and IS ducking GGG. Canelo is a MW, squeezing into a 155-pound catchweight. He routinely walks around at well over 170 pounds, and has made a career of fighting undersized opponents, just like JCC Jr. was/is doing. So we have all the right in the world to call him out and expect him to face GGG at 160, 'cause that's Canelo's REAL WEIGHT. Meanwhile, as far as I know GGG has never ventured above 160, and is steadfast there. If Ward really wants to meet GGG in the ring, have him come down to 160. If he can't..... no issue. Fighters shouldn't be forced to go up or down in weight. They do it 'cause they want the payday, and they think they can.
Apparently facts only matter in the real world but not the virtual one. I'm convinced that some of Golovkins detractors would also be gravity detractors. It makes no difference to them that they'd be photographs on the cement w/o it.
He's slandered because he's got no elites on his resume.
Its ignored that other worshiped past middleweights didn't either.
Those middleweights deemed elite or the top of the food chain don't want to fight him.
Its ignored that those kinds of middleweights didn't even exist when Hagler and Hop were around.
Hagler, Hopkins and Monzon made there legacy's on the backs of name rec x-welters
Its ignored that these same welters today wont even fight each other.
People act as if there is nothing wrong with these things.
Its ignored that nobody has been frozen out this bad since Charlie Burley.
Never mind the facts though. Jusrt carry on backing this F#%ING charade.
I know you all don't like anything bad said about GGG. I'm just really frustrated with the sport right now and it makes me unfair to him because he was the guy I was planning to hang my hopes on and it's been years and he's done nothing. Sure he'll get the record for title defenses but it doesn't mean shit to me without good fights.
It's no different than what anyone else is doing. Loma looked like he would fight anyone any time but he found a way away from Rigo and his reason for not fighting Walters was laughable in its hypocrisy when you saw who he actually chose. Kovalev looks a killer but what is he doing, rematching uncompetitive fights, why? I hate Frochs personality but I'm desperate for his return to see someone that wants good opponents because I don't see it anywhere else.
GGG has 3 years tops he can not keep going on at this rate but appreciate him now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
If people want to say something bad about GGG fine, but make it the truth! For instance, "He hasn't fought anybody great". Yes , that's fine , but it's also not his fault there isn't anybody great to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
"He's avoided Ward,Froch, etc.etc." Total Bollocks! He's never avoided anyone in his life. I would ignore what Froch has to say, because he's full of crap. And don't hold your breath waiting for Froch to come back, because he knows GGG would Knock his ass out!