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Jay Deas wants Deontay Wilder to fight Charles Martin next
Alexander Povetkin and his promoter are doing all they can to make the fight with Wilder, but trainer/co-manager Jay Deas has little faith in Wilder for some reason and wants to continue to avoid Povetkin.
Of course, to save face, they'll repeat the usual lie that it's Povetkin avoiding Wilder. But they can't fool people forever.
Wilder trainer says if Povetkin delays again, Martin unification is welcomed
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Re: Jay Deas wants Deontay Wilder to fight Charles Martin next
It has to be Povetkin next, I am surprised that Povetkin felt he was not ready.
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Is jay deas the trainer as well or just the manager?
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Re: Jay Deas wants Deontay Wilder to fight Charles Martin next
And then, he could fight the winner of Lucas Browne-Chagaev in a super unification fight;D
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Re: Jay Deas wants Deontay Wilder to fight Charles Martin next
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Spicoli
Called it ;D
They're milking it for everything they can! Maybe they'll get the message when everyone stops watching, I was reading Wilder's marketability is slip sliding away.
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Re: Jay Deas wants Deontay Wilder to fight Charles Martin next
It'll be interesting to see if he gets stripped if he dodges Povetkin. Actually not interesting, probably depressing.
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Kirkland Laing
It'll be interesting to see if he gets stripped if he dodges Povetkin. Actually not interesting, probably depressing.
Seems highly unlikely. If they didn't want him hanging on to the belt he wouldn't have been allowed to defend it against 3 fringe guys in a row, is my thinking.
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Re: Jay Deas wants Deontay Wilder to fight Charles Martin next
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Re: Jay Deas wants Deontay Wilder to fight Charles Martin next
If Wilder does that then that would officially would be a duck.
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Master
If Wilder does that then that would officially would be a duck.
I'd go with officially crawling under the bed sheets in a fetal position. Strangely Wilder is giving a whole new meaning to "defensively flawed".
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Re: Jay Deas wants Deontay Wilder to fight Charles Martin next
The weird thing is that I honestly think wilder beats povetkin but they are the ones avoiding him so maybe they aren't as confident as I am.
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These are the times when I wish Povetkin had the mouth and personality of a cross between David Haye and Tyson Fury. Not that it would get him the fight.... but at least show Wilder up in the press and get some fans questioning Wilder's testicular fortitude.
I was a fan of Wilder's in the beginning, but now all his chest-beating is sounding a little hollow.
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TitoFan
These are the times when I wish Povetkin had the mouth and personality of a cross between David Haye and Tyson Fury. Not that it would get him the fight.... but at least show Wilder up in the press and get some fans questioning Wilder's testicular fortitude.
I was a fan of Wilder's in the beginning, but now all his chest-beating is sounding a little hollow.
I think the mainstream fans have stopped watching him as well.
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TitoFan
These are the times when I wish Povetkin had the mouth and personality of a cross between David Haye and Tyson Fury. Not that it would get him the fight.... but at least show Wilder up in the press and get some fans questioning Wilder's testicular fortitude.
I was a fan of Wilder's in the beginning, but now all his chest-beating is sounding a little hollow.
Povetkin was at the fight but may as well have been the invisible man for the amount he tried to promote a fight netween the two!
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ross
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TitoFan
These are the times when I wish Povetkin had the mouth and personality of a cross between David Haye and Tyson Fury. Not that it would get him the fight.... but at least show Wilder up in the press and get some fans questioning Wilder's testicular fortitude.
I was a fan of Wilder's in the beginning, but now all his chest-beating is sounding a little hollow.
Povetkin was at the fight but may as well have been the invisible man for the amount he tried to promote a fight netween the two!
I wonder if Povetkin secretly doubts his ability to defeat Wilder. He shouldn't.... I think he's got the skill set and ring experience to pull it off. However... it's the HW division, so there's always that homerun shot threat.
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
These are the times when I wish Povetkin had the mouth and personality of a cross between David Haye and Tyson Fury. Not that it would get him the fight.... but at least show Wilder up in the press and get some fans questioning Wilder's testicular fortitude.
I was a fan of Wilder's in the beginning, but now all his chest-beating is sounding a little hollow.
Povetkin was at the fight but may as well have been the invisible man for the amount he tried to promote a fight netween the two!
I wonder if Povetkin secretly doubts his ability to defeat Wilder. He shouldn't.... I think he's got the skill set and ring experience to pull it off. However... it's the HW division, so there's always that homerun shot threat.
I thinks its an even figt but Povetkin will struggle with Wilders height. Wilder im just assuming will box a bit more carefully behind his jab than he has been but then Povetkin isnt Stiverne thats going to be happy just plodding after him either.
Theres a photo of the Furys with Povetkin at the fight stood between Hughie and Tyson and he looks quite small.
https://twitter.com/tyson_fury/statu...14953461325824
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Yeah Povetkin's listed at 6-2, which is quite "shrimpy" next to behemoths Wilder (6-7) and Fury (6-9). If Wilder worked feverishly on his boxing skills and using his jab like you alluded to, he very well might keep Povetkin honest enough to go into the late rounds and win either by late KO or decision. But I think Wilder's spectacular KO victories against lesser opponents have not given him the incentive to think he may have to hone his skills. Dangerous against someone like Povetkin.
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TitoFan
Yeah Povetkin's listed at 6-2, which is quite "shrimpy" next to behemoths Wilder (6-7) and Fury (6-9). If Wilder worked feverishly on his boxing skills and using his jab like you alluded to, he very well might keep Povetkin honest enough to go into the late rounds and win either by late KO or decision. But I think Wilder's spectacular KO victories against lesser opponents have not given him the incentive to think he may have to hone his skills. Dangerous against someone like Povetkin.
Povetkin looks more muscular now and probably hits harder. He will work Wilder harder than anyone else he has faced.
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Oh yeah deffinitly Povetkin should be Wilders hardest opponent and probably would beat him if he fights like he has been but I dont think he will. I think he will fight very cautious and move. The question is, is he good enough to do that for 12 rounds without getting caught because even against Stiverne his defence just consisted of shutting up shop with his gloves up. He doesnt have much in the way of defensive skill as in head or upper body movement.
It would deffinitely be an interesting fight if they ever actually both decide to go ahead.
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Wilder is officially the biggest pussy heavyweight champion of the world.
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Re: Jay Deas wants Deontay Wilder to fight Charles Martin next
Vitali should cash in his emeritus status and take on povetkin for the wbc belt if wilder dumps, the mayor of kiev vs russia would be great fun at this point of the ukraine russia disagreement :S
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palmerq
Vitali should cash in his emeritus status and take on povetkin for the wbc belt if wilder dumps, the mayor of kiev vs russia would be great fun at this point of the ukraine russia disagreement :S
Putin, trump, Obama as judges